I'd like to present something different

[Bboy100]

Here at GC, we pretty much focus exclusively on seducing girls via our social skills. In other words, everything we do is geared towards using our conversations and interactions in order to get girls. Needless to say, this is a good method...once you become very good at it, it's probably the best.

But in the meantime, I'd like to suggest that maybe there are some shortcuts we can take. Women are attracted to men who bring value to the world in one way or another. My belief is that this includes but is certainly not limited to social value. For example, I'm 100% sure my mother was a very desirable women when she was in her prime. As far as I can tell, my father is a social retard. Maybe he was better at one point, maybe not. But socially speaking, I doubt he was ever the best option my mother could have.

But my father is:
- Hardworking
- Athletic
- Intelligent
- Accomplished
- Kind

I don't really know the story of how they met, and what their relationship was like prior to my birth. But I'm willing to bet he didn't seduce her via his social skills. But rather, she probably saw him:

- Working hard to earn his PhD
- Win a national championship in rowing
- Teach in University
- Start his own business
- Write his own book.

You'll notice that none of these things require very good social skills. But they're still very attractive to women.

So my proposal is thus: Put yourself in an environment where women will see you doing attractive things.

Ex.
- Join some sort of group fitness or intramural sports
- Participate in class/work discussions in ways which show that you're intelligent. Challenging others ideas (given that you actually believe they should be challenged!) would also be a good way to show assertiveness and confidence
- Publicly perform. This could be anything
- Teach a class or assume a position of authority.
- Put yourself around kids, dogs, or other weak/needy creatures.
-Present a business idea in front of other people
- Publicly perform. This could be anything
Ex. Dance performance/competition, stand up comedy, theatrical performance (of any type), musical performance


It's important to note that the activity not just be you doing something useful. You must somehow be displaying it in front of other people (which hopefully includes cute girls).

Also, I'm not saying you can replace social value via this method. You still have to be at least somewhat charismatic. But I feel like this method might seriously cut down the amount of work you might otherwise have to put in.



Thoughts on this?

 

[Drck]

Excellent point, that's exactly what it is. See how the guy (your dad) builds his life. He's working hard on achieving something, education, sport, business, giving to others... He is building a huge value. True value, not a fake one.

All this is reflected in his behavior, the way he presents himself, the way he talks, the way he approaches other people... He doesn't have to take much space, he doesn't have to give too many dominant looks and look too sexy, he doesn't have to be be too socially tuned, doesn't have to have huge social circle, but he is still quite attractive... Girls go after him, he doesn't have to chase, he draws them in by his lifestyle, and because they see the real value in him, they'll give him lots of breaks even when he screws up as a potential lover...

Now imagine he is not a social retard as you say, he learns some social skills, perhaps seduction skills - his potential is raised multiple folds, hundred folds...

Say the guy is a businessman, employs couple people, is responsible and hones to his customers and so forth... He simply approaches people in certain, more professional and more dominant way, he doesn't have time to think whether it is attractive or not, he just does it - and that attractive. Compare to guy who has no real life, not much accomplishments, yet learns seduction and approaches girls in the same way like this guy. See the difference?

Women are smart, they find out what this guy is DOING in his life and they KNOW what kind of person he is. They see the true value and they go for it. Many classy, smart and hot women do that.

See, I don't really want to say that seduction is a fake. But at the same time there is lots of faking-ness, if that makes sense. Seduction tries too imitate guys like this, it tries to imitate behavior like this, it tries to raise perceived value (but not really the real value).

So again, don't make me wrong, I'm not trying to say that seduction is wrong or fake. Im trying to say that a young guy in his early 20's should rather focus 80% of his time on building his life like your dad did, and just 20% on seduction... There is lots of guys here spending 90% of their time on learning seduction, and neglecting their real value...


Fix your life first, then the girls will be looking for you...

 

[SGent]

Bboy

I know you are young but take a look at Chase's article on Older men and younger women. https://www.girlschase.com/content/attra ... nger-women This is part two. You will find almost everything you guys have discussed here and why it is important. This is the article that sold me on GC. There are several guys on here that are whining about getting older and how it will affect their game. If you set these things are target for yourself as you get older you will be able to game until you die. My personal experience is that there are many women and girls who find the success of older guys very attractive. If you can master some of these traits at a younger age you will be golden with the ladies. So far since I have been on GC I have had ladies from 17 to 34 chase me.

I have noticed a ton more confidence in your reports in the last couple weeks. Keep it up.

SGent