If she moves with you, is it 100% she's into you?

[andersen09]

When a girl moves with you when you say "let's go over there or here" and she moves with you, is it 100% proof that she's attracted to you?
Also, why is this? I've noticed before the girls who were attracted to me always moved with me and gave me compliance, but now I want to understand why that is.

If anyone has a perspective to share let me know.

 

[trashKENNUT]

andersen09.

is it 100% proof that she's attracted to you?

Yes if it is compliance.

Because compliance is key. But please do not kind of make this as absolute. As you get more "advanced" or "experience", you meet a lot of women who just wants you to 'not give up' on them.

This is an in between "boyfriend zone" and she being the "soft" one. Something future to talk about.

but now I want to understand why that is.

That's a deep philosophical and scientific and biological and whatever question. Why you ask?

Zac

 

[andersen09]

andersen09.

is it 100% proof that she's attracted to you?

Yes if it is compliance.

Because compliance is key. But please do not kind of make this as absolute. As you get more "advanced" or "experience", you meet a lot of women who just wants you to 'not give up' on them.

This is an in between "boyfriend zone" and she being the "soft" one. Something future to talk about.

but now I want to understand why that is.

That's a deep philosophical and scientific and biological and whatever question. Why you ask?

Zac

Why is compliance key?

Let me rephrase the question.

What are the pre-requisites of a girl complying to a man versus girl not complying to a man? What's the difference?

 

[trashKENNUT]

andersen09,

Why is compliance key?

It is an indicator that she likes you versus she doesn't like you but she tells you that she do.

What are the pre-requisites of a girl complying to a man versus girl not complying to a man? What's the difference?

That's a hard one.

I like to say fundamentals but i can tell you many times that if your "sexual value" might be high but your "societal value" is vague and the surrounding area of you is people who are mindless zombies but turn to fucking cunts because the girl likes you (learn to be an asshole to society because it is easier to steal than to build, that's why people cockblock

that's why "God" always fucks em. People are liars. Not malicious though :X )

No easy answers

Zac

 

[andersen09]

andersen09,

andersen09 wrote:
Why is compliance key?


It is an indicator that she likes you versus she doesn't like you but she tells you that she do.

andersen09 wrote:
What are the pre-requisites of a girl complying to a man versus girl not complying to a man? What's the difference?


That's a hard one.

I like to say fundamentals but i can tell you many times that if your "sexual value" might be high but your "societal value" is vague and the surrounding area of you is people who are mindless zombies but turn to fucking cunts because the girl likes you (learn to be an asshole to society because it is easier to steal than to build, that's why people cockblock

that's why "God" always fucks em. People are liars. Not malicious though :X )

No easy answers

Zac

It's a hard question answer cause most people don't really worry about the depths of it. I think the place I'm coming from is simply this. For a simple analogy, let's say you're studying chemistry and you're to learn periodic table for an upcoming test. There's two types of students.

Group A memorizes every element on periodic table without really questioning why it's set up the way it is.
Group B memorizes the periodic table but still wants to understand why the table was constructed a certain way versus another way.

Hence I'm seeking to understand the reasoning from biological science or psychology of women to help me understand it more clearly. When you understand something deeply, you can find innovative ways to apply the ideas into your craft.

My point in this is to explain that, I know when she complies, she's attracted to me. As someone said the sole purpose of attraction is to help her invest in you more which leads to a mutually benefit relationship. But I find myself wondering why that really is?

I started with okay how can I be sure if she's attracted to me? Is there a way to gauge where I am at with her? Which the answer I found was trying to move.

Chase mentions even if the girl doesn't "seem" to be interested in you, yet moves with you, she's into you. And if she's interested but won't move, she's not into you. So there has to be another way to gauge what her motivations are for complying.

It's not necessarily a question that needs to be answered, but it's more for depth of understanding on my part.

** SIDENOTE: i like what you said about "mindless zombies" who turn to fucking cunts to steal or cock block, rather than build because it's easier. It reminds me of drug dealers or any type of criminals who just steal without putting in any hard work, and I can see a few very similar characteristics between envious men and criminals, they both want the easy way out and not accept the reality of hard work of improving themselves. Cool insight

 

[lostnumber]

Unless you are way deep into friend zone territory, a girl moving with you is a significant sign of interest, because people are unlikely to give such a significant investment to someone they don't like.

Think of compliance as a scale, where the higher up we go the more demanding the request, and the more unlikely the average person is to comply.

If I'm with a girl and I tell her to get on her knees and suck me off, and she does it, I have a very good idea of where I stand. That's a pretty damn high level of compliance and (and very satisfying when it works). I can be relatively sure that a girl who complies with that request is, in fact, very interested in me. Either that or she is being paid a significant amount of money.

That is one extreme end of the spectrum. On the other side, what if I walked up to random girls and asked them for the time? I haven't conducted a field trial on this, but I'm willing to bet my response rate would be close to 100%, and would have no correlation to the girls interest in me. Why?
Because the level of compliance and investment I am asking for is so low. Giving the time is a common favor that virtually anyone would do for anyone else.

Look at it from your perspective; if someone (could be a girl or a guy) asks you to move somewhere with them while you are out at a bar, what kind of people are you likely to say yes to? I'd venture that its high-value interesting people with a lot of social value for men, or attractive potential mating partners for women.

If Ugly Mcfatterson strolled up to you and asked you to buy her a drink you would, hopefully, say no, but if Hotty von Bigtits made the same proposition you might be otherwise inclined.

When you get a girl to physically follow you somewhere, it shows a commitment to the interaction and a level of compliance that goes beyond what would be found in a normal conversation between strangers. The more you are making a girl move the bigger the ask and the more unlikely the average girl is to say yes, thus the more accurate it will be as a screen to show their interest level.

Compare getting getting a girl to move a foot closer to you so you can hear each other, to getting a girl to move to a different room and sit down with you, to getting a girl to leave the bar with you altogether. You should be able to instinctively tell that these things are not on the same level and would take different amounts of buy-in from a girl to accomplish.

Finally, from a more advanced perspective, getting investment from a girl is one of the biggest ways to GAIN attraction, and a girl giving you compliance is also giving you investment.

Does that answer your question?