Infograph : Why Girls Go on Dates and Never Text Back

[Troy]

I came across a info graph explaining why she hadn't texted back. I've found it strange that the girls who I take on dates were less likely to answer my texts unless I was asking her out again. They would appear to fully enjoy the dates yet not text to say " hi " anytime after. It's puzzling.

Meantime the girls who would frequently dodge meeting me were more likely to text me first even just to say " hi ". That's pretty straightforward. They only want me as a texting buddy which I won't be.

Back to my first point, let's say the girl enjoyed the date, I don't see why they can't " encourage " me to ask them out again . It's like they are waiting and saying " I hope Troy texts me today and asks me out but if he doesn't I won't text him ever ". I feel I'm getting mixed signals. Many times because of girls " none contact " after the date I sometimes hesitate to ask them out again and go for the lay . That's not to say I'm not trying to get first date sex. My logistics is the major problem why I'm not pulling girls faster. And usually when I screen for girls logistics it sucks too ( her parents are home, can't bring guys back, she has somewhere to be later etc).

I've had 2 girls meet me on a second date and I still had poor logistics . I think I've built enough comfort with these girls that I can go back to their place and seal the deal 3rd date. Otherwise I'm nexting them. How long should I wait to ask for the third date after I had the second date?

These days I'm just focused on getting all those girls out. Lately I've been going on 2 to 3 dates with different girls every month ( quite a big improvement since a few months ago no girl would meet up with me . I'm aiming to have dates with 2 new girls every week... Anyways improvement takes time). Below is a Infograph with interesting stuff I found.

Troy

 

[Metalus]

Hi there!
I like your thought process. Putting it step by step trying the get a good idea of whats going on.
Sounds like you are improving a lot for good reasons.

I have to admit I dont like this kind of survey for a simple reason (maybe just my experience).
Lets say someone would tell me to answer the following question:
"What kind of woman do you prefer ?"
Possible answers:
Blonde Brunette Redhead

Since im forced to answer i cant really say "i dont care". But in reality i dont care about the colour of their hair.

Same goes for surveys like this.
Woman can talk a lot about the stuff they like and the stuff they dont like. For example "Kissing is not
important on the first date" is one of the conclusions of this survey. But in my opinion there is something
missing. Correlation between "i kissed/didnt kiss him on first date" and "we had sex/or a second date". While woman could say "its not
important to kiss" that doesnt mean they still think the date sucks when they ended up not kissing. Most likely
when they didnt kiss during a date they will go home alone thinking "that was a boring date im not gonna meet
this guy again". NOT because they didnt kiss. BUT because they felt like "there was no connection at all".
I mean if you are making out like crazy u wouldnt go home thinking "there was no connection"- then why would you even
kiss? But if just absolutely nothing happens you are probably dissapointed.

The other part is my experience tells me that woman have absolutely no idea of what they like or dont like. Or at least dont
talk about it. Girls telling me they like a tall guy fucking me as a short guy is one example. Or girls saying they dont like
muscles and in bed they go absolutely crazy about touching my body everywhere doesnt make much sense either. And its not
about woman alone. The same would be true for me. I would prefer a woman with a nice body (most likely slim). But at the same
time i know some (more or less) kind of chubby girls with awesome bodies. At work there is one woman that i think is really attractive.
But im 100% certain if i put here next to my other girlfriends she wouldnt stand "a chance" when it comes to looks. Still im super turned on
by her.
When woman say "yeah i dont want to get approached by strangers" they dont think "yeah i dont want Brad Pitt to talk to me on the street".

So my conclusion here is: Dont take this stuff all that serious. But yes the "3 day rule" is completely garbage.

 

[Franco]

Troy,

Nice find!

On this:

Back to my first point, let's say the girl enjoyed the date, I don't see why they can't " encourage " me to ask them out again . It's like they are waiting and saying " I hope Troy texts me today and asks me out but if he doesn't I won't text him ever ".

The second you start any sentence with something along with lines of, "...I don't see why girls just can't do [BLANK] for me," then you're on the road to failure. They don't have to do anything for you, and once you can accept that, you can also accept that all of the "leading" needs to be done by you. Occasionally a girl will do some leading herself, and if she does, consider that a bonus. If she doesn't, then you shouldn't be sweating because you know it's your job to make things happen.

Also, girls don't really consciously think about it this way. Often times they just get too nervous to text you, so they'll just lie in wait hoping that you'll text them. And yes, they can get so nervous that they'd rather just not text you at all. Girls always have at least a minor amount of abundance, so she'll just wait for another guy to play the right cards rather than taking a gamble on you.

As far as the infographic: to me, all it does is confirm that we are mostly doing things the right way here on GC. The only things worth noting on this infographic are the suggestions for texting -- everything else about the actual date itself is irrelevant since women don't know what they really want in that regard. However, the overwhelming responses on how to "text" the girl are spot-on and reveal exactly what we tell you to do here. So that's pretty cool.

- Franco

 

[Troy]

Metalus

I like what you said. I have no disagreements or quote or any need to say it better than you did

The second you start any sentence with something along with lines of, "...I don't see why girls just can't do [BLANK] for me," then you're on the road to failure. They don't have to do anything for you, and once you can accept that, you can also accept that all of the "leading" needs to be done by you.

OK I'll keep this mindset from now on *thumbs up*

And yes, they can get so nervous that they'd rather just not text you at all. Girls always have at least a minor amount of abundance, so she'll just wait for another guy to play the right cards rather than taking a gamble on you.

This can get tricky at times. It would be figuring out is she just nervous to text back or not interested. Sometimes I find it's straightforward to know. All I do is take action and give them girls what they want. Other times even if I take action and she is interested it still won't work out. Just some thoughts!

So with the two girls I had second dates with ( that didn't result in even a kiss or sex talk), how long should I wait to ask them out again? I would have used Chase's guide on date compression but due to how many times I got " flaked on " the dates weren't compressed. For instance the first date I planned with Jody ( met her on Tinder) her grandma had to pick her up so we rescheduled. And when I planned the second date, rain feel and prevented us from meeting. Bear in mind it took me about a month to get each both first and second date because of flaking. Nevertheless I'm going to ask them out again and go all the way till I can't go with each girl anymore.

PS. For anyone who reads my series of posts where I'll sometimes be talking about " one girl " don't think I'm getting head over heals for that specific girl. I simply use one girl in a situation to give me a idea of what to do and not to do. Instead of per se making the same mistake with 3 girls. Example : Instead of posting reports of me failing to kiss 3 girls in the same situation, I'll post only one, learn from that and use what I learnt on the other 2 girls thus improvement.

Troy

Edit:

Why don't you just NEXT these girls?

I haven't NEXTED them as yet because I'm following Chase's two month rule for beginners . I go after them for 2 months and if after that I next because it isn't going anywhere. I met both girls about a month ago. I'll give both one last date and if it doesn't work I'm done.

Also Ray, for most of my life I never really " tried " to get what I wanted. It either happened by luck or I never got what I wanted. One of the girls ( Jody) I'm going to " try " with ( I really like her ). Again only for one more date.

I'm training myself to get what I want. A few years ago if I interacted with a girl and it got NOWHERE at first I would sulk and give up. Lately I've also pulled off some " miracles " only because I gave it " one last shot ". This won't always work but I always leave xyz situation learning something. I've posted a few reports where no one expected a turn around ...guess everyone was surprised then One last shot bro! Without chasing or developing oneitis.

I no longer want to be that quitter. Better to try and fail knowing I gave it my best shot instead of looking back years from now wondering if " something " would have happened if only I tried harder

 

[ray_zorse]

Why don't you just NEXT these girls? I think a quick turnover is important. For example I met a chubster in the gym last week. I just said hi to be polite, but I ended up having a nice convo with her, and she seemed keen & engaged so I thought why not, and grabbed her no (I haven't banged a new girl in months so I thought, take the layup)... however, she wouldn't hang out Mon Tue or Thu, so I was gonna suggest easy date late Wed evening (I will be in her area when I finish, and I could ask her to show me her artworks)... but when I started to set this up she said it's too late in the day, well fuck it I've lost interest now, it's so much harder when the convo/approach isn't fresh or she's not as interested as she first appeared. I mean, make it easy for yourself man, it costs little time/effort to approach.
Ray

 

[Metalus]

Why don't you just NEXT these girls? I think a quick turnover is important

Yes and no.
When you are starting to improve I think you need to make that experience. So u get a feeling for:
"I misjudged this one girl - i thought she was attracted to me". So at some point you will have
enough experience to say "okay thats not going to work" and make a quick turnover.