Inspired by older guys doing cold-approach pickup

[bkw]

Being 39 years old myself, I am extremely motivated and inspired by older guys doing cold-approach pickup, and even more so when they are successful at it (think 50+ years old and more). There aren't many older guys publically talking about their experiences or success with cold-approach and whom are also active, as far as I know. Yes, there are the OGs like Mystery, or even guys from RSD (although their business model has shifted away from dating), etc., but they aren't publically talking about their active pickup lifestyle much. I'm also fairly new to these forums, but I do notice older guys on here, some seemingly quite skilled in pickup based on their reputation and/or experiences, which is really cool.

Not really sure the reason for this post. I just wanted to say I think it's awesome older guys doing pickup. I guess when I was younger I didn't think much of it, but now that I'm almost 40 and find myself still doing it from time to time, it's super inspiring and I just think it's cool to know at an older age what is possible and perhaps the reasons/motivations guys do it. It's also pretty interesting to see how women of all ages respond to older men.

I'm also one of those guys who doesn't really follow the typical "social norm", never have, so I'm not stuck on romanticized ways men "should be" when they are older. Obviously, having more money is optimal; having a preferable lifestyle, being healthy, emotional maturity, etc.

Yeah, I guess that's it. Just wanted to share. Keep it up!

 

[Aussiedude]

Check out Days of Game, he's an older guy who made it work after a lot of hard work. https://daysofgame.com/

 

[isildur1]

Tom torero interviewed numerous old people on his podcasts that had started in their 50s-60s and got results

I say at 39 you have a distinct advantage for having more life experience and a greater ability to hook people in conversations

Started pickup at aged 20 I really struggled to keep sets hooked because I was too inexperienced at life - that became a lot easier in my late 20s . A lot of people say age Is a disadvantage but I think women are attracted a lot to maturity and life experience - whenever I saw a 18-20 year old start pickup they’d often flop due to their lack of experience and maturity , definitely life lessons make hooking and maintaining conversations and date a lot easier at least it did for me

 

[isildur1]

Didn’t Nick Krausser start in his mid 30s too? After a divorce ?

I think most mainstream pickup artists hit their peak in their mid 30s I rarely met wingmen that were crushing it in their early 20s at least

also most of Tom torero’s wingmen were 30+ , James Marshall’s tnl crew were predominantly 30+ too - I could go on with examples

 

[RisingCane]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

 

[isildur1]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

Interesting perspective -

I started daygame in my mid 20s and I wish I started earlier - it was a hard transition from nightgame/online game

But I’m great-full for it as speaking to strangers is a necessary life skill

but even doing it in my mid 20s I lacked a real work ethic and pro activity yet the majority of my friends did even less - and the vast majority of wingmen I met were very lazy and egoistical and wouldn’t do the sets

I guess as you say in your 20s you think you have forever but you really don’t - and time is limited , that being said it was a lot easier for me to hook in my 30s than in my 20s maybe because I traveled more and can speak more languages- I speak fluent Chinese , Korean and Japanese now which certainly helps bonding connections faster with people I’ve also done more shit with my life

I just regret being too constrained by my social circle in my early 20s and lacking the will to think independently of my friends and family at a young age in general I believe men mature a lot slower than women do and that lack of maturity really causes them to miss out on big opportunities

 

[KnownUniverse]

gaming girls in their 20s was way easier for me 10-15 years ago. I didnt even need game back then i just opened, joked around, got their number and we'd start dating. Now im in my late 30s gaming women over 35+ (milfs) is way easier but young women keep slipping through my fingers.

Could by psychological though as i dont feel as confident as i did in my 20s. I'm also more anxious and less care free about where my life is heading. And It doesnt help that whenever the age gap topic comes up on social media it's full of people shaming us. Makes me feel like im being constantly judged for talking to younger women in public.

That said i've had some brief luck with women as young as 18 over the last year or so but i had to try extra hard.

 

[KnownUniverse]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

I think this is only true if you are in a club filled with people half your age. I dont think there's any stigma in being the mature guy that bangs all the milfs.

 

[Will_V]

As an older guy you can be the lover, but you need to do things with style, this is your strong suit. It is expected that your life experience will give you a perspective, an identity, a story. I doubt you can just be the 'attractive loser' past a certain point.

Having a style does not mean you now have to be looking for marriage, it just means you need to anchor yourself a little more and provide an attractive experience for her through your leadership and frame. She expects that you know who you are by now, and so she can rely on a certain experience while being with you.

 

[isildur1]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

That being said the younger you are starting out usually the less serious women took me - I even got dumped several times for being “too young” even at 27

When I started daygame I was pretty lazy and arrogant too I worked ok but not really hard enough and the wingmen I was with most of them were even worse they’d give up after doing 0 approaches

and sub 20 year olds would again be really lazy when doing it.

commitments to any change in life require serious dedication and I guess this generation of men would rather hide behind dating apps then put their balls behind the line and do anything meaningful. I mean even on “game “ telegram groups most men were too egotistical to even go out to do approaches caught behind the screen and trying too hard to look “cool” behind Instagram or dating apps.

 

[average_daygamer]

I think this is only true if you are in a club filled with people half your age. I dont think there's any stigma in being the mature guy that bangs all the milfs.

Let's be honest, as older guys, we are trying to make up for not getting any action when we were young.

We ain't chasing no milfs up in the club...

 

[AspiringStoic]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

Absolutely spot on. This is a great post. I have seen it happen many times and felt the same as well.

But on the other hand, I know a couple of guys who got into pickup as young as 16 mostly because someone around them like their elder brother or someone were into it. They are the ones who get freakily good by the time they are in their early to mid twenties.

I think this is partly because if someone gets into the right mindsets, beliefs and starts approaching at that young an age, their brain really shapes up differently because it is still malleable and developing. Whereas older guys have a lot of "rewiring" to do so its a longer journey to get good at this.

 

[isildur1]

gaming girls in their 20s was way easier for me 10-15 years ago. I didnt even need game back then i just opened, joked around, got their number and we'd start dating. Now im in my late 30s gaming women over 35+ (milfs) is way easier but young women keep slipping through my fingers.

Could by psychological though as i dont feel as confident as i did in my 20s. I'm also more anxious and less care free about where my life is heading. And It doesnt help that whenever the age gap topic comes up on social media it's full of people shaming us. Makes me feel like im being constantly judged for talking to younger women in public.

That said i've had some brief luck with women as young as 18 over the last year or so but i had to try extra hard.

I found myself a lot less confident in my early 20s than I do now. When I was aged between 16-22 in particular I found women wouldn’t take me serious at all

Let's be honest, as older guys, we are trying to make up for not getting any action when we were young.

We ain't chasing no milfs up in the club...

At school and university most the women I was around were predominantly dating older men - I think older men have huge advantages in the dating space - I wouldn’t want to go back to dating in my teen years again that’s for sure

 

[Bismarck]

Great thread bkw, I agree it’s refreshing to know that there are still men out there who haven’t let the societal changes that began in 1968 in the West with the Paris riots affect their mindset. It was after that time that the word “machismo” gained a negative connotation, and men started being shamed for being, well, men.

There is a great little book, “Le premier sexe” (“The first sex”), written by a French journalist. As far as I'm aware, it hasn't been translated into English. It meticulously documents all these changes.

"The Rational Male" was good on the societal changes, referred to by this author as the increasing adoption in the West of the "feminine imperative." I should warn potential readers that a whining tone permeates all red pill literature that needs to be taken with a big grain of salt.

Traditionally, men married late, because we give away more by coupling monogamously sooner, since we can count on our seed to bear children into old age. Yes, aristocrats would marry young, for instance the Duc de Rochefoucauld married when he was 14 or 15 in the 17th century, with a girl even younger (13 or 14), but those were arranged marriages between wealthy families. It was socially acceptable for such men to frolic around throughout their lives.

All this boils down to mindset. I was lucky that growing up my parents forbade TV in the house, so I was less amenable, from a young age, to the subtle brainwashing that undergirds mainstream TV programming. My parents also encouraged reading, for which I will be ever grateful. I was also lucky that my mom and dad are both conservatives, and as such, my mum is not a feminist, and, despite everything, there was still a semblance of man-to-woman frame between them around the house.

Your autonomy and freedom of thought are some of your greatest assets. You should guard them as best you can.

To close, in this connection, I will share two little tales.

I am 36 years old and began applying an anti-wrinkle skincare protocol after seeing a Ukrainian dermatologist in late 2023, so in early 2024. I also started having a haircut last year for the first time since I was 18 (until then I’d had a buzzcut, but today this is less tenable due to my receding hairline). Today girls variously believe that I am in my mid-to-late twenties.

When I was 32 years old, I went to a small kitchen party at a student residence where I had been living for a few months that year, where the average age of the girls was 18. I effortlessly number closed the two hottest girls there, who were both 18.

Unfortunately, despite going on a date with one of them and meeting the other with one of her girlfriends twice afterwards, nothing transpired between me and them, because, like some of the posters on this thread, I wasn’t feeling fully confident in my skin. At the time, I was still dealing with chronic low back discomfort and hadn’t set things up to benefit from a constant good state and optimal sleep.

I also wasn’t aware (lack of reference experiences, which the quality of the seducers on this forum has helped me overcome - for instance Atlas, who is the same age I was then, is regularly sleeping with girls in their late teens and early twenties (18, 19, etc.)) that such girls were attracted to me and wanted me inside them, of which now I have no doubt.

The second tale relates to an experience I had only 10 days ago. I was giving a private tour to this American family, a couple and their 15-year-old daughter. The (blonde) girl was beautiful and elegant, a showstopper.

And it was clear for all to see that she was taken with me. I knew, and her parents knew, that she was quite attracted to me throughout the tour. It was undeniable.

Now, I’m not saying that I would have slept with her, because she’s underage. What I am saying is that, despite being 21 years younger than me, she was, on a primal level, attracted to me.

‘nuff said.

 

[Chase]

Check out Days of Game, he's an older guy who made it work after a lot of hard work. https://daysofgame.com/

Doesn't look like he's updated his blog in a couple of years, but he's active on X.

I've interacted with him a bit on there. He seems cool.

https://x.com/DaysOfGame_com

 

[Chase]

@KnownUniverse,

Could by psychological though as i dont feel as confident as i did in my 20s. I'm also more anxious and less care free about where my life is heading. And It doesnt help that whenever the age gap topic comes up on social media it's full of people shaming us. Makes me feel like im being constantly judged for talking to younger women in public.

That said i've had some brief luck with women as young as 18 over the last year or so but i had to try extra hard.

The "psyching yourself out" effect is very real.

I had that problem for a while with blonde bombshells when I first relocated to SoCal. Visualizing + switching up my look to better match what those girls went for completely fixed it... took me from "Man, these chicks are rough" to "Wow, they're so warm and friendly!"

You need to break that habit of letting yourself be lectured at by women.

Hang out on women's social media channels where they blame, gripe, gossip, and lecture, and of course you are going to feel shamed and scolded.

Stop hanging out there and you won't.

Do you let random women lecture you in real life?

I don't.

Why would you sign up for it willingly online?

I spend hours online a day, including on social media now that we're marketing on there, and I almost never hear any of this stuff.

The few times I do see some kind of nonsense about "age gaps" or "here are my standards for men" or "men need to step it up" or whatever I just chuckle and close the tab.

You've gotta be a masochist to submit yourself to women's griping...!

I love chicks, but I'm not sticking around for the gripefest. That's for their nice guy orbiters and their girlfriends!

Chase

 

[Aussiedude]

Doesn't look like he's updated his blog in a couple of years, but he's active on X.

I've interacted with him a bit on there. He seems cool.

https://x.com/DaysOfGame_com

Yeah he doesn't really write anymore on the blog, although still great inspiration for an older dude I think.

 

[isildur1]

If a man stays physically fit, strong, with a muscular but lean build, almost never drinks alcohol, gets a good 8/9 hours' sleep the vast majority of nights, and, despite being single, keeps up an active sex life during his twenties and thirties, if he should find a female he wishes to marry, who would, of necessity, be younger than him by around 10 years or more, is it true that if he were to sire, through her womb (she would be between 25 and 30), a few children, when he was in his late thirties/early forties, or even mid to late forties, his children would of necessity be born autistic or schizophrenic due to the purported degeneration of his spermatozoa?

ChatGPT said:

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That’s a really thoughtful and nuanced question — and no, it is not true that children will necessarily be born with autism or schizophrenia if a man fathers them in his late 30s to late 40s. There are slight increases in risk with paternal age, but they are not deterministic, and certainly not "of necessity."

Let’s break it down:

The Good News

The lifestyle you're describing — physically fit, lean/muscular build, great sleep hygiene, minimal alcohol, active sex life — all contribute positively to:

• Hormonal health (e.g., maintaining healthy testosterone levels)
• Sperm quality (motility, morphology, and count)
• Lower inflammation and oxidative stress, which affect DNA integrity

You’re stacking the deck in your favor. Many studies show that lifestyle factors can mitigate some of the natural effects of aging on sperm.

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The Science on Paternal Age

Starting around age 35–40, there is a gradual increase in certain risks associated with paternal age, such as:

• Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD): Risk increases slightly per year after about age 35.
• Schizophrenia: Studies suggest about double the risk if father is over 45, but the baseline risk is still low.
• Some rare genetic disorders: Like achondroplasia and Apert syndrome, which result from de novo mutations in sperm.

However:

• These risks are still relatively small in absolute terms.
• A healthy man in his 40s has a very good chance of fathering healthy children, especially with a younger partner in her peak reproductive years (mid-20s to early 30s).
• Most children born to older dads are completely healthy.

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Perspective on Risk

Here’s an analogy:

• Say the baseline risk of autism is 1.5%.
• A doubling of that (for a 45-year-old dad) is about 3%.
• That means 97% chance of no autism, even with the elevated risk.

So it’s not guaranteed, and even the increase is modest — especially considering that maternal age, health, and genetics also play a big role.

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Bottom Line

If you take care of your body and mind the way you described — and partner with a woman in her fertile, healthy years — you're giving your potential children an excellent biological start.

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Of course, I'm not saying you should delay fatherhood, if you're in your twenties, have already tasted lots of different high quality girls, and wish to settle down.

I'm just trying to provide a bit of perspective on the potential anxiety that information taken out of context can have on guys who were slower developing (which a lot of men are) and thus are still single past 35.

Well a lot of young people in the daygame space think they have time but the reality is the majority of them aren’t working hard



I hung around a lot of daygamers and I’d say the majority were lazy or took daygame for granted and weren’t doing enough volume or sets to make an impact. Most would give up after 1-2 sessions because they couldn’t deal with the burden of holding many conversations . I’d say statistically 80 percent at least are never gonna reach 1 daygame lay - harsh reality is it takes a lot of bravery and courage which most people simply don’t have . Daygame requires a lot of independence , courage and determination which men in the west are sorely lacking and I’d say people under the age of 25 tend to have terrible work ethics and take their time for granted I can say that being one of them- I used to stand around Oxford street in London for 5-6 hours and never open anyone before going home. I met a lot of young people 18-22 who couldn’t hack doing it and gave up - whether it’s an ego thing or not really valuing the importance of face to face connections. Society has made it easier to “check out” onto porn and dating apps now rather than doing anything meaningful in real life .



So yeah I regret how I handled my early 20s I did a lot of night game but the quality of women weren’t great even the attractive ones tended to have alcohol or drug problems and online wasn’t giving me the volume I needed. Daygame exposed my weaknesses in carrying conversions , but even when I did well I still procrastinated and got caught in my head a lot thus losing many and opportunity along the way - and



dealing with upsets is tough especially now seeing as there are not many leaders in the space - when I started in 2017 there was the pua forums, natural lifestyles and Tom torero podcasts which was the bulk of the advice I took- now a lot of those tnl 21 convention speeches are deleted and Tom torero is dead plus most the pua forums bar this one and rosh v’s are dead - so the community has thinned down a lot . I think it’s harder for anyone starting out now relative to 2017 because the community runs so thin and most men have checked out to online or porn/video games

so most people in their early 20s may have time on their side but few will use it. Most men are too scared to take the ego hit of daygame if you go up to a successful 20 year old university jock and tell him to hit the streets he probably will be too egotistical to do so even if the award at the end of the tunnel is a 10 . I’ve daygamed with models and successful men and sometimes they’re the worst wingmen to have because they take every rejection as a massive hit that they’re not used to beforehand

 

[Chase]

NOTE: spun off the posts about paternal age & autism so as not to derail the thread. The posts on that topic have moved here:

Paternal Age & Autism Link: Causation or Correlation?

One related thing that may be of interest to some guys here (depending on your ultimate goals in dating) is the risk to children with older fathers. Children with fathers who are more than 40 at their birth are almost six times more likely to have autism than those whose fathers are less than...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[RisingCane]

One thing I notice that becomes a must as a guy gets older is the circle he has for Game. Like you have zero tolerance for time wasters and now I finally get it. I finally get why so many older guys have that grumpiness to them when they are driven. You don't have time to waste for naysayers, guys filled with doubt, and guys who are not taking any action. You have goals to hit and places to be in terms of game so it is no longer the mental masturbation place.

Sometimes I wonder if we mislead young men by telling them they have "all the time" or "are still young" because it defeats that sense of urgency.

I sometimes wonder if the Black Pill, Incel forums, and Looksmaxx communities took off in a big way because we have an epidemic of young men who have a ton of time to waste and are too scared to properly talk to women.