Interactions going smoothly, I get number, but no dates?

[Tugtugtug]

What’s going wrong? I get number, then they’ll stop replying. Or flake.
What am I doing wrong?
I need a set plan to follow.

 

[Police dog]

Most of the numbers are going to be flaky anyway, especially at the beginning. Just keep going. May be you focus too much on getting the number instead of getting the girl - been there myself. More details about your approaches would help.

 

[Warped Mindless]

Good chance they arent actually attracted to you when you get the number and they are just being polite.

If they do text you but then quickly stop replying, it could be you sending off weird vibes over the phone thats turning them off.

You have to look at it like a funnel and see where it breaks down. That’s a clue where your problem is.

Many guys will get numbers from women who arent really attracted and then think they need to work on their “text game” but the problem isn’t the texting or even how you go about asking for her number, the problem is that she wasn’t attracted to you when she gave it to you!

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Good chance they arent actually attracted to you when you get the number and they are just being polite.

If they do text you but then quickly stop replying, it could be you sending off weird vibes over the phone thats turning them off.

You have to look at it like a funnel and see where it breaks down. That’s a clue where your problem is.

Many guys will get numbers from women who arent really attracted and then think they need to work on their “text game” but the problem isn’t the texting or even how you go about asking for her number, the problem is that she wasn’t attracted to you when she gave it to you!

Hmmm
So i guess the solution to an attraction problem will be to run attraction game or improve your attractive traits/game before taking the number?

 

[Warped Mindless]

Dont worry about attraction at all.

Spike her emotions up by being fun and talking about things that arent “typical” and boring.

Increase her levels of compliance.

Amp up the sexual tension.

Make sure your fundamentals are handled.

Doing those things will often make the attraction happen as a byproduct of doing things right.

 

[Will_V]

What’s going wrong? I get number, then they’ll stop replying. Or flake.
What am I doing wrong?
I need a set plan to follow.

The simplest and clearest answer I found to this question (at a time when it happened a lot to me) was from a TNL video where James was saying that it's because you haven't qualified her. My experience backs this up.

Qualifying is where she learns the 'reason' why you like her in particular compared to all the other girls. This could be at the start e.g. 'I like the way you're XYZ' or when you learn something about her (she says "I like/do/am XYZ" and you say something like "I like that because ABC" or something along those lines).

She has to feel that you didn't just randomly pull up because she was hot enough to bang and try your luck and somehow ended up with her number. And that there is some kind of unique connection between you two that could flourish into something bigger.

 

[Glow]

The simplest and clearest answer I found to this question (at a time when it happened a lot to me) was from a TNL video where James was saying that it's because you haven't qualified her. My experience backs this up.

Qualifying is where she learns the 'reason' why you like her in particular compared to all the other girls. This could be at the start e.g. 'I like the way you're XYZ' or when you learn something about her (she says "I like/do/am XYZ" and you say something like "I like that because ABC" or something along those lines).

She has to feel that you didn't just randomly pull up because she was hot enough to bang and try your luck and somehow ended up with her number. And that there is some kind of unique connection between you two that could flourish into something bigger.

nah
thats too narrowing in - could be but we dont know enough from OP to say this

@Tugtugtug - i say listen to warpeds point

find a path where you
- drive things ( being the lead, driving convos or facilitating them)
- insure you have the right impacts (techs & seductive capacity)

the main thing is that you need to build conscsiousness to your doings to be able to impact her better and enough to tip her into being at least a lil fascinated with you as a potential guy in her life/a cock to crave for her. Many ways to make that happen but you need to unblind yourself to itvia fieldpractice and understanding.

and beware there are many layers.
your best bet is to make FRs to get feedback you can use as youre prob doing things well but with limited seductive impact. We can pinpoint and point to stronger resources.

 

[Will_V]

nah
thats too narrowing in - could be but we dont know enough from OP to say this

Sure it could be a bunch of things, but this is what made a difference for me when things seemed to go very well but she ended up being flaky on the phone. Even if you've done a good job of fundamentals and been smooth throughout, she still needs the feeling that you understand and like something about her that isn't just that she's a hot girl. Doesn't have to be explicit as long as she gets the message.

I usually find it useful to throw something out there when responding to vague questions like this, so that people reading the thread later on can find something useful to chew on. Sometimes it's right, sometimes not, but it usually improves the flow of discussion when it's engaged with.

 

[MarioTheDom]

Attraction is a volatile emotion.

maybe they really mean it when they gave you the number but then life happens, they forget about you.

Like Will said, making her qualify and "grounding" the set will make the leads more solid.

Although It's just a part solution to a partly presented problem, as we don't know "how many" of these you have - what game you run - how qualitative is your game - where do you game - etc

 

[Will_V]

Just to expand on the qualifying thing - it's important to not just tell her why you like her but to put a little pressure on her to qualify herself first. This is what makes her feel like she earned it and it's worth something, which makes her want to hold onto it.

For example if you ask her 'what do you do to unwind end of day' and she goes 'oh sometimes I like to paint' don't just go 'oh I like girls that paint!'. Instead for example 'oh do you do that crazy postmodern art where you splash paint everywhere?' which is ambiguous and funny and makes her strive for a good response while feeling like you're having a bit of fun with her. And then after she invests in telling you what art she does and why, you can qualify her in a way that shows you really listened and understood what she was expressing.

For me this was a clincher because at one time I was relying too much on 'good vibes' and sexual tension which meant that as soon as she wasn't next to me the interaction didn't feel like it had any real substance. So I made a point of never leaving without telling her why I liked her - even if it was after I got the number.

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Just to expand on the qualifying thing - it's important to not just tell her why you like her but to put a little pressure on her to qualify herself first. This is what makes her feel like she earned it and it's worth something, which makes her want to hold onto it.

For example if you ask her 'what do you do to unwind end of day' and she goes 'oh sometimes I like to paint' don't just go 'oh I like girls that paint!'. Instead for example 'oh do you do that crazy postmodern art where you splash paint everywhere?' which is ambiguous and funny and makes her strive for a good response while feeling like you're having a bit of fun with her. And then after she invests in telling you what art she does and why, you can qualify her in a way that shows you really listened and understood what she was expressing.

For me this was a clincher because at one time I was relying too much on 'good vibes' and sexual tension which meant that as soon as she wasn't next to me the interaction didn't feel like it had any real substance. So I made a point of never leaving without telling her why I liked her - even if it was after I got the number.

You're spot on... i noticed things improved a lot with me too when i started qualifying after watching Sinn's qualification seduction model

Helped me see things a lot differently... i have this player vibe and qualification was what really made things better for me

Are there resources you studied that helped you out with qualification?

 

[Warped Mindless]

You're spot on... i noticed things improved a lot with me too when i started qualifying after watching Sinn's qualification seduction model

Helped me see things a lot differently... i have this player vibe and qualification was what really made things better for me

Are there resources you studied that helped you out with qualification?

I know you didn’t ask me but my two cents… its qualification not physics… dont overthink it.

I’m pretty cure Chase has an article or two on it on the blog.

 

[Will_V]

I know you didn’t ask me but my two cents… its qualification not physics… dont overthink it.

I’m pretty cure Chase has an article or two on it on the blog.

This one for example: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-qualify-girl-and-ramp-attraction

You're spot on... i noticed things improved a lot with me too when i started qualifying after watching Sinn's qualification seduction model

Helped me see things a lot differently... i have this player vibe and qualification was what really made things better for me

Are there resources you studied that helped you out with qualification?

Not really, besides GC articles I did watch a bunch of daygame videos on yt and get some ideas though very few of them are helpful.

What I try to do is focus on what I genuinely like about a girl, even if it's something as simple as the way she talks or moves, and find a way to work that into the conversation. When there's something you genuinely like about someone, expressing yourself is much easier and subcommunication works a lot better.

One of the key things is to be able to tease a girl on something that you like about her, because that way your words are ambiguous or even sound like a slight disqualification, but the subcommunication is very strong and positive, and this stirs up a lot more energy and makes her come forward because she has to submit a little bit to get the good stuff, rather than having it dumped on her for nothing.

When teasing I usually go for exaggeration with expressive language, as this sounds like you're making a little bit of fun but you're not actually judging it in any way.

 

[Calibration]

Great answers already - my two more cents regarding qualification:
Most chics like to be qualified on qualities more than looks. So, identify a quality and complement it with looks. It's qualification on steroids.

For ex, the way I do this is, when she says something witty/funny/intelligent/kind/humble etc, I say:

Me: Looks can be deceptive sometimes

She: oh! Why do you say that? (She thinks I'm going to say something negative)

Me: I approached you cos you looked cute/hot/stylish/beautiful but your wittiness/humbleness or being funny is far more impressive than how you look. Looks are common but it never fails to impress me when I meet someone humble/kind/witty/funny

She: *every single time she blushes* thank you

Me: (continue qualification) Are you always this humble/funny? (Break rapport: or only with me? )

 

[Skills]

What’s going wrong? I get number, then they’ll stop replying. Or flake.
What am I doing wrong?
I need a set plan to follow.

good thing is that you are getting numbers and no social media, which is kind of impressive for a newer guy...

However numbers don't mean anything and should not be the goal, a strong interaction should be the goal.... For me a strong interaction is were there is strong vibe (and you will feel it and she will there is not a how to) and were you can touch her during the interaction and she is exited about the interaction usually asking you question and she flirts and the body language is positive vs fuck off body language..... Now numbers are going to be flakey without a strong interaction and good follow up texting... I personally don't use qualification or deep dives or anything like that i do more touching and micro escalations and flirty humor... though thinking about it one of my favorite directs opener have an element of qualification... " Hi this is kind of random, but i though you were attractive and wanted to find out if your Look match your personality"