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RedNeck

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Folks,

This is a serious question . Do women really find intelligence sexy ? I am not talking about some nerd dude who is smart. I am talking a normal dude who got the fundamentals.
 

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stion . Do women really find intelligence sexy

Just not smarter than her :)

Or feel that you are smarter than her. (Although you see everything)
 

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I don't think it's intelligence in and of itself that they find sexy, but what you do with it. If you're more intelligent you're more likely to be more competent, which is sexy. If you're more intelligent and you're in an interaction you might be able to see so many steps in advance that she'll never be able to figure you out. A lot of what you say might be unpredictable yet easy to understand. You might be able to remember details about her and make conclusions about her character based on observations that someone who isn't as intelligent might not be able to. You might do something out of the blue that is so impressive to her but that you were juggling in the works for hours on end beforehand in your brain on autopilot. That excites her, that is sexy.

Check out A2daMIRs (not active anymore but he used to be around years ago) LRs for a good example of a guy using his intelligence to pull off some stupidly amazing lays.

I think another good example is Matt Damon in this scene of Good Will Hunting:

Basically, if you can use your intelligence to be socially dominant, that is sexy. If you channel it into other endeavours such as computer science and so on, that might be really cool and interesting to some women, but it's not necessarily sexy.
 
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If I am not smarter than her , then I am dumb lol

It's attainability than anything else.

Really. Nothing about you being dumb. Women I dated are mostly diploma, college degree Holders.
 
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I don't think it's intelligence in and of itself that they find sexy, but what you do with it. If you're more intelligent you're more likely to be more competent, which is sexy. If you're more intelligent and you're in an interaction you might be able to see so many steps in advance that she'll never be able to figure you out.

Thanks man. I think this part explains it for me. What triggered me thinking about this topic is I had to give a class to people in my company including solid 22 HB8. She was head over heel for me after the class. During the class she was looking at me like I was the most interesting thing in the world. Literally, she was smiling with her mouth open all the time. something like this, but with her hand to her side.
https://healthmad.com/13-signs-a-woman-is-attracted-to-you-sexually/

She got really attracted after the class. I am not the traditionally good looking guy so I had hard time to explain it.

I didn't pursue her for other reason.
 

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It's attainability than anything else.

Really. Nothing about you being dumb. Women I dated are mostly diploma, college degree Holders.
If is the attainability , then I should be smarter than her, just not too smarter than her.
 

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If is the attainability , then I should be smarter than her,

Yea but you can't gauge every girl until you know what she values in terms of education (linear or not linear)
 

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It's a cool trait, best revealed later on.

The thought you want her to have is something like "Not only is he a cool, sexy, charming guy but he's also smart as hell."

If you want intelligence to be part of your identity, then you will be better off using it as a way to dominate interactions. Think Tony Stark. I can't pull it off though xD

I prefer to keep it as a little secret which girls love discovering. Most of them will be impressed. The rest will either be neutral or heads over heels for you. I don't remember a girl being turned off when she found out about my impressive academic accomplishments.

Think of it as a nice little bonus. I would not capitalize on it for attraction (stick to fundamentals)

And if she's a smart girl, I refrain from mentioning my IQ of 159 or anything which will overshadow her. I had a girlfriend who kept trying to prove to me that she is as smart as me and would get butthurt anytime my intelligence was apparent. Not so cool if you ask me.
 

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Folks,

This is a serious question . Do women really find intelligence sexy ? I am not talking about some nerd dude who is smart. I am talking a normal dude who got the fundamentals.


mmm

Personally,

I've gotten a lot of choosing signals from girls by acting caveman-dumb *shrug*

I really think it's more about how you feel about yourself while doing what you're doing.

and the reason for why you're doing it.

Do you accept yourself? Do you feel that you are worthy?

If she sees that you don't care if you come across as dumb,
and you've got so much abundance in your life.. then that can be a big turn on... in my personal experience with girls.

For example. When the teacher would explain a deeper concept to the classroom (this was in college), majority of the students would just nod their heads and pretend to understand just for the sake of not seeming unintelligent... at this point, I would straight up ask the teacher what she meant.
loudly infront of everyone, and sometimes to entertain myself, I made my question sound as elementary as I could.

Just to make it clear that i'm not trying to impress anyone

People would laugh and girls would be attracted and flirt with me during and after class because I had the balls to say what everyone else wanted to say but they just didn't want to feel left out.

I made myself seem unsmart, but got that respect and attraction, not because of my "intelligence" or "unintelligence XD" per-say but because of how I used the card's life dealt me (and improved on them)
and how I carried myself, how I portrayed my feelings towards myself and the environment.


Intelligence can be yummy or gross...

but at the same time it's really neither....

it depends on the place that it's coming from
is it from a place of joy, fun and expression, creativity and security and abundance..?

OR...

is it coming from a place of trying to seem smart in order to impress her?


If you use large words or talk about complex topics in a way that is FUN for YOU personally,

then that FUN vibe rubs off from you and goes onto her,

she then begins having fun with you

and you give her a goodtime by having a goodtime within yourself...


haha it's a very spiritual type of thing now that I think about it...


My wallpaper on my phone says: "Ego says 'Once everything falls into place I'll find peace' ...Spirit says 'Find your peace and everything will fall into place'"


The same with girls, and people.

Don't wait for them to think you're awesome and worthy of love before you feel that way about yourself,

rather feel awesome and worthy of love and then because you truly feel this way
it rubs off onto them and they will begin to reflect to you how you feel about yourself, they will see you as cool and attractive etc.

But it all starts within yourself




So..is intelligence sexy?


I'd say... it depeneds on how YOU feel about it and yourself
 

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Sidenote:

If you handle your fundamentals, social dominance + intelligence + verbal intelligence to outmaneuver her ass

= You are literally killing her and beating a dead horse. In this case, beating her dead ass. :p

It's good to just shut the fuck up. I don't tell people that I'm brilliant offline as much as I do online for attention to read my stuff.

i'm pretty happy offline, and very childish in a sense. Or pretty quiet. Either or.
 

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About women and intelligence,

Women do not find intelligence sexy. Moreover if they see that you are smarter then her you attainability will be irreversible damaged. This problem with attainability will not be that they are typically rude, but women simply will not think that you are "her type of man".
Generally most women do not like intelligent guys. Why? Because most women are motivated by emotions and not logic. Only intelligent women may find intelligent men attractive but even then if they see that you are superior you will have attainability problems, and can be very rude to you.
If you want to be lover and not provieder or often a friend do not show too much intelligence with women. By that I even think that you do not talk about your level of education and especially if you had sucessess as good student, scientist ,... IN FEMALE MIND SMART MAN CAN NOT BE HER LOVER! Even if womes is horny. I do not say that if you have good game you can't get women but you will had a harder time than man who did not show this qualities. So why bother? Just do not talk about it with most women or not too much with smart women and you will be fine. Maybe you can use it as Byronic flaw as I do. Talk them that you wanted to achieve something else in your life but you couldn't so intellectual work was the only thing you could do.
I have read a lot of seduction literature a lot of times about intelligence is spoken positivelly. But from my expericence and people I know it was not true. Intelligence comes with disadvantages. Read Hectors articles about intelligence and you will see. Man explained.
Hope this my experience will help. Stay healthy and safe.
 

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This topic always generates insane amounts of KJ because 1) people do not know what intelligence actually is and what it is not, and 2) intelligent people often do not know how to use their intelligence to their benefit. A lot of intelligent men perform very badly with women, but at the same time, nearly all the top PUAs are highly intelligent. How can this be? Start here:

 

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It is true. Intelligence should be used as a tool for finding ways to succeed with women. Not as a quality that will attract most women or categorize man as lover. Women will never confess this and will always say that want smart man but it is not the case. At least for romantic or sexual role. I approached super lonely girls and MILFS and after they would find out about what I do they would be turned off. So these days I keep my mouth shut or talk about it in humiliating way.
 

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It is true. Intelligence should be used as a tool for finding ways to succeed with women. Not as a quality that will attract most women or categorize man as lover. Women will never confess this and will always say that want smart man but it is not the case. At least for romantic or sexual role. I approached super lonely girls and MILFS and after they would find out about what I do they would be turned off. So these days I keep my mouth shut or talk about it in humiliating way.

I am sure you know this better than me.
 

RedNeck

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About women and intelligence,

Women do not find intelligence sexy. Moreover if they see that you are smarter then her you attainability will be irreversible damaged. This problem with attainability will not be that they are typically rude, but women simply will not think that you are "her type of man".
Generally most women do not like intelligent guys. Why? Because most women are motivated by emotions and not logic. Only intelligent women may find intelligent men attractive but even then if they see that you are superior you will have attainability problems, and can be very rude to you.
If you want to be lover and not provieder or often a friend do not show too much intelligence with women. By that I even think that you do not talk about your level of education and especially if you had sucessess as good student, scientist ,... IN FEMALE MIND SMART MAN CAN NOT BE HER LOVER! Even if womes is horny. I do not say that if you have good game you can't get women but you will had a harder time than man who did not show this qualities. So why bother? Just do not talk about it with most women or not too much with smart women and you will be fine. Maybe you can use it as Byronic flaw as I do. Talk them that you wanted to achieve something else in your life but you couldn't so intellectual work was the only thing you could do.
I have read a lot of seduction literature a lot of times about intelligence is spoken positivelly. But from my expericence and people I know it was not true. Intelligence comes with disadvantages. Read Hectors articles about intelligence and you will see. Man explained.
Hope this my experience will help. Stay healthy and safe.

You are writing non sense . Thanks , please don’t post again because you are derailing the thread .
 

RedNeck

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This topic always generates insane amounts of KJ because 1) people do not know what intelligence actually is and what it is not, and 2) intelligent people often do not know how to use their intelligence to their benefit. A lot of intelligent men perform very badly with women, but at the same time, nearly all the top PUAs are highly intelligent. How can this be? Start here:


Thanks man for the insight .
I think I should have formulated the question differently . It should have been about competency and success as by-products of intelligence.
Because in the scenario I gave , I was competent and dominant in commanding the class room . This competency and dominance was due to my belief I can outsmart anyone in the room.
 

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The definition of the word intelligent is quite complex indeed.

Definitions, though.

There's one senior guy from Girlschase who noted that most "activist" are college, degree holders.

I was having a devil's advocate view when former PUA, David Tian who is highly regarded among the PUA community in Asia and around the world, noted that pickup is toxic.

He has a PhD.

According to that guy, at least what implication is that David Tian is nuts. At least the David Tian of now, not before.

I guess intelligence has 3.


- intelligence as in knowing
- intelligence as in application
- intelligence as in social approval.

To Girlschase members: Zac is a CRO MAGNO MAN. He must at least know something.

To the public: He is an idiot, or something like that.

A recent example: @Hector Papi Castillo on Girlschase YouTube is getting bashed for the stupidiest of analogies and advice.

Quite interesting actually.

Also, it is more of a skillsets, to bash someone's and create Differentiation, or to hunt or basically what you do with it.

Now, How does this reflect with girls?


Too much money and you are assume to have intelligence/power, to throw her under the bus.

Variations of this.
 

RedNeck

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Yea but you can't gauge every girl until you know what she values in terms of education (linear or not linear)
Unattainability happens when your value is too higher than the girl’s
slightly higher is okay , but too high is not okay .
Most women date up .

I am surprised you are somehow senior member here .
 

RedNeck

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The definition of the word intelligent is quite complex indeed.

Definitions, though.

There's one senior guy from Girlschase who noted that most "activist" are college, degree holders.

I was having a devil's advocate view when former PUA, David Tian who is highly regarded among the PUA community in Asia and around the world, noted that pickup is toxic.

He has a PhD.

According to that guy, at least what implication is that David Tian is nuts. At least the David Tian of now, not before.

I guess intelligence has 3.


- intelligence as in knowing
- intelligence as in application
- intelligence as in social approval.

To Girlschase members: Zac is a CRO MAGNO MAN. He must at least know something.

To the public: He is an idiot, or something like that.

A recent example: @Hector Papi Castillo on Girlschase YouTube is getting bashed for the stupidiest of analogies and advice.

Quite interesting actually.

Also, it is more of a skillsets, to bash someone's and create Differentiation, or to hunt or basically what you do with it.

Now, How does this reflect with girls?

Too much money and you are assume to have intelligence/power, to throw her under the bus.

Variations of this.
Dude you remind me of senior management at the corporate . They talk a lot but they say nothing .
Why don’t you save this advice for someone else !!
 
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