Is my thinking about this correct?

[sneaky_charm]

Hey guys,

I know the general advice here is to have sex on the first date. But the place where I am in right now does not have much going on in terms of sex.

I'm in Asia, and in this part, most girls who have sex never say it to anyone else for the fear of social repercussions, even when having it with BF. So basically, an average girl will have sex with maybe 0 - 3 guys before marriage.

The whole point of having sex in the first date is to make their emotions more intense, right? So that she invests in you heavily, compared to her investment on other guys with whom she didn't have sex?

So if that's the case, then assuming that most girls here do not make out very often, and get clingy just after heavy make out, is it alright if I just make out with a girl in the first date? Will a girl's emotions get intense toward me that way, assuming that she didn't make out with any other guy for the past one or two months?

My motivation of meeting girls is to get to know many girls, to find the girls whom I like enough to make GFs. So I just want a girl's feelings to stick for a while during the get-to-know phase, just till I reach a conclusion regarding whether I want her as GF or not?

So will just heavy make out do the trick if a girl didn't make out intensely with anyone for the past month or so? Or will I have to still push for sex?

- Kevin

 

[Franco]

sneaky,

My motivation of meeting girls is to get to know many girls, to find the girls whom I like enough to make GFs. So I just want a girl's feelings to stick for a while during the get-to-know phase, just till I reach a conclusion regarding whether I want her as GF or not?

So will just heavy make out do the trick if a girl didn't make out intensely with anyone for the past month or so? Or will I have to still push for sex?

Having sex with a girl vs. kissing her is literally thousands of miles apart in terms of the amount of emotion and respect you get from a girl. The thing about kissing is that it isn't seen as socially unacceptable, so women can "flirt" and "kiss" with just about any guy without having many negative consequences (which is actually why a lot of girls will do it). However, sex is a totally different story, and most of her concerns about having sex with a guy stem from a deep-seated fear of lowering her own social value to not only you, but her friends and possible future lovers as well. This is why having sex with her and then subsequently treating her well will ultimately alleviate all of these fears on top of cementing the emotions she has for you as a strong, dominant man who gets what he wants but also cares about the women he meets.

To to answer your question, kissing in no way guarantees you anything with any girl. It's possible there might be more women in Asia who will cling on a bit longer after kissing, but sex is still in an entirely different league from kissing, and you should always attempt to go for sex if your goal is to enter a sexual or romantic relationship with her.

- Franco

 

[sneaky_charm]

To to answer your question, kissing in no way guarantees you anything with any girl. It's possible there might be more women in Asia who will cling on a bit longer after kissing, but sex is still in an entirely different league from kissing, and you should always attempt to go for sex if your goal is to enter a sexual or romantic relationship with her.

Okay then. I'll try pushing for sex.

I don't think it is very doable to take girls home the first night, since people rarely socialize with strangers here. Also, there is no strong bar or club scene.

Maybe 2 - 5% of girls go to clubs, but not more. So basically, chicks do not get to socialize with guys much, other than strictly social circle. But I think it will be possible to bring girls home in the 2nd or 3rd date. When I get better, maybe even during 1st date! Well then, going to push for sex.

- Kevin