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killerman

Cro-Magnon Man
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Ok, so I've been doing pickup for a while now. Looking at myself in an objective, non biased way I'd say I've got pretty good results so far. I've had countless numbers and dates from cold approach, and many lays. Even had a couple of girlfriends from it. Girls have been attractive, lots of 6s and 7s and the occasional 8. Not many 8s but I have got some. Now I'd say my problem is getting 8s, 9s and 10s but I know that's not really an issue because I know it's just a case of carrying on improving my game, packing on more muscle, losing more fat, dressing better, improving fundamentals and just basically improving across all areas. My problem is connection.

Countless times, ex girlfriends and girls I've dated, including one sexy milf I'm currently sleeping with, have complained that I just don't open up. They tell me they miss me, but I don't tell them **** in return. No I love you, no I miss you, nothing. In fact I rarely communicate anything. It's like im a robot. That they cant read my mind. I guess that's them saying that they cant connect with me. And I know it's a problem. I've had girls instantly lose interest in me in the past when i've opened up, but even that were rare instances, as most of the time I don't open up at all. In my mind as soon as I open up I think they'll leave me. So I don't tell them my feelings. I feel I have to be as distant as possible. I rarely ever said to a girl I love her, the whole thing makes me uneasy. Even my ex girlfriends they complained I never said I love them. But the thing is this...I don't think I've ever been in love. I don't know what that feels like. It would be nice to have these feelings but I think I'm simply unable to feel love. I don't know how to do it. I've liked my ex girlfriends, but I never loved them. Sounds ***** up right? I'm unable to feel these strong emotions. Now I feel extreme joy, passion for interests, excitement, anger, fury and hate, but never love. Am I just ***** up? So being unable to experience feelings of love/connection towards my partners, I only feel lust. I even feel awkward holding hands with a girl. Once my last girlfriend went to hold my hand and holding hands with her I felt so suffocated. This isn't good and I know it's ****** up. I'm good at the whole physical escalation, taking girls to bed, giving them powerful orgasms, squirting, I'm getting REAL good at making girls squirt. But the whole romance thing I'm terrible. I want to get good at it, as I know I need to get good at it to be an awesome seducer but I just can't do it. And deep down I'm worried that if I start being more romantic she'll leave.

Maybe it's because of my past. I am adopted and I have asperger's. Personally I don't think the asperger's thing is that bad, as it's more of a positive than a negative. Insane focus, drive, motivation and it hasn't stopped me getting results with women. Maybe it's being abandoned as a child. But this inability to open up is bugging me, not because I want to be a simp but because i think it's stopping me from experiencing really passion and connection. I'm 36, and this isn't normal at my age. Or maybe it's ok and i'm blowing this up out of all proportion but I don't think so. I want to be a cassanova and I think this is the final obstacle to being that guy. tell what you guys think.
 
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Skills

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But the whole romance thing I'm terrible. I want to get good at it, as I know I need to get good at it to be an awesome seducer but I just can't do it. And deep down I'm worried that if I start being more romantic she'll leave.
^this is your problem.... You can be loving, sweet, romantic and all that, at the right time... it is about timing and calibration, being loving, sweet, and connecting to women will actually make you better.... Again obviously at the right time.... if not they feel you are a sociopath and auto reject eventually...
 

killerman

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Yes I have a massive aversion to being sweet and romantic because deep down I feel women are guaranteed to reject me if I start doing it.
 

killerman

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^this is your problem.... You can be loving, sweet, romantic and all that, at the right time... it is about timing and calibration, being loving, sweet, and connecting to women will actually make you better.... Again obviously at the right time.... if not they feel you are a sociopath and auto reject eventually...
But when is the right time? And how often is too much? Women have told me that I'm very mysterious and hard to read, qualities that obviously make a man very sexy (especially being very mysterious), and I'm scared to lose those qualities, so how do I become more romantic and sweet without losing my mysterious, sexy and masculine side? I know it's a fine line, and I don't want to become an emotional simp.
 

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Tribal Elder
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But when is the right time? And how often is too much? Women have told me that I'm very mysterious and hard to read, qualities that obviously make a man very sexy (especially being very mysterious), and I'm scared to lose those qualities, so how do I become more romantic and sweet without losing my mysterious, sexy and masculine side? I know it's a fine line, and I don't want to become an emotional simp.
If you are scare that makes you needy when she is acting right reward, being a goog guy vs a nice guy different things... nice guy repulsive vs good guys with boundaries attractive...
 

Chad Tyrone

Cro-Magnon Man
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Ok, so I've been doing pickup for a while now. Looking at myself in an objective, non biased way I'd say I've got pretty good results so far. I've had countless numbers and dates from cold approach, and many lays. Even had a couple of girlfriends from it. Girls have been attractive, lots of 6s and 7s and the occasional 8. Not many 8s but I have got some. Now I'd say my problem is getting 8s, 9s and 10s but I know that's not really an issue because I know it's just a case of carrying on improving my game, packing on more muscle, losing more fat, dressing better, improving fundamentals and just basically improving across all areas. My problem is connection.

Countless times, ex girlfriends and girls I've dated, including one sexy milf I'm currently sleeping with, have complained that I just don't open up. They tell me they miss me, but I don't tell them **** in return. No I love you, no I miss you, nothing. In fact I rarely communicate anything. It's like im a robot. That they cant read my mind. I guess that's them saying that they cant connect with me. And I know it's a problem. I've had girls instantly lose interest in me in the past when i've opened up, but even that were rare instances, as most of the time I don't open up at all. In my mind as soon as I open up I think they'll leave me. So I don't tell them my feelings. I feel I have to be as distant as possible. I rarely ever said to a girl I love her, the whole thing makes me uneasy. Even my ex girlfriends they complained I never said I love them. But the thing is this...I don't think I've ever been in love. I don't know what that feels like. It would be nice to have these feelings but I think I'm simply unable to feel love. I don't know how to do it. I've liked my ex girlfriends, but I never loved them. Sounds ***** up right? I'm unable to feel these strong emotions. Now I feel extreme joy, passion for interests, excitement, anger, fury and hate, but never love. Am I just ***** up? So being unable to experience feelings of love/connection towards my partners, I only feel lust. I even feel awkward holding hands with a girl. Once my last girlfriend went to hold my hand and holding hands with her I felt so suffocated. This isn't good and I know it's ****** up. I'm good at the whole physical escalation, taking girls to bed, giving them powerful orgasms, squirting, I'm getting REAL good at making girls squirt. But the whole romance thing I'm terrible. I want to get good at it, as I know I need to get good at it to be an awesome seducer but I just can't do it. And deep down I'm worried that if I start being more romantic she'll leave.

Maybe it's because of my past. I am adopted and I have asperger's. Personally I don't think the asperger's thing is that bad, as it's more of a positive than a negative. Insane focus, drive, motivation and it hasn't stopped me getting results with women. Maybe it's being abandoned as a child. But this inability to open up is bugging me, not because I want to be a simp but because i think it's stopping me from experiencing really passion and connection. I'm 36, and this isn't normal at my age. Or maybe it's ok and i'm blowing this up out of all proportion but I don't think so. I want to be a cassanova and I think this is the final obstacle to being that guy. tell what you guys think.
Seems like u have more lover value than boyfriend value... Honestly at a certain point when uve been picking up lots of women and having sex with them all love emotions kinda fade away and ure left with lust.


Really funny when one is starting out they are obsessed with emotions usually infatuations then when u r out there picking up girls u stop obsessing over that one special girl.With time u develop abundance and u see women as sex objects which is of course good to get u in the right headspace towards having sex.

When picking up lots of women I think u lose or show disinterest towards monogamy or settling (unless u have had ur fair share of conquests and just want to settle with a quality girlfriend or wife with the right qualities)

Anyway I think you could show potential of being a boyfriend, if that's what u seeking, to the women you are closing deals with.Communicate u having ur shit together indirectly of course...keep seeing her over time too but don't rush into it.

If u would like them sticking around show them they can get you ...keep your attainability in check...not too high,not too low...Also keep ur value high or improving(don't get fat or dress shabbily lol) .Then keep them investing in you(have them coming to yours most of the time with gifts or drinks ...)

Keep ur interest in her at the same but to a lesser percentage level than hers . Basically if u follow the VAC model then u can keep them around.

With opening up I think u are okay...u don't seem to be easily swayed by emotions...u have mastered ur feelings.That being said if u have the VAC model in check,ur interest level is close to hers then u have much less to worry about.

Don't think u have to assure a chick that u love her to have her stick around.But they usually may bring "where do u see this going?" to which u can answer-"I cannot promise the future but I can promise the present "(Credit:Zan)

Anyway,my thoughts

~Chad Tyrone
 

Chad Tyrone

Cro-Magnon Man
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But when is the right time? And how often is too much? Women have told me that I'm very mysterious and hard to read, qualities that obviously make a man very sexy (especially being very mysterious), and I'm scared to lose those qualities, so how do I become more romantic and sweet without losing my mysterious, sexy and masculine side? I know it's a fine line, and I don't want to become an emotional simp.
Chase got a good article on this..."how to be vulnerable, enchanting and alluring to women".
Look it up 😁
 
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