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Journal Chapter 1: Solo Night Game - Obliterate AA and Find Good Venues

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What it do babyyyyy!! Splitting my journal into chapters so I can keep myself focused on one thing at a time, make sure I hold myself accountable, and to use for future reference.

Background:
I was mostly a social circle guy but since covid I've had to move around a lot so I don't have that circle at my disposal. This new location is absolute ass for doing day game. I was exclusively doing online game for a little while but no longer get matches so I lost interest and my only choice now is to do solo night game.

Goals:
For now all I am trying to do is familiarize myself with the bars/venues to get a feel for where the good spots are. I also want to get rid of AA and actually interact with people. I am keeping my expectations very low because I've noticed that I get overwhelmed when I put too much pressure on myself and that messes up my vibe and makes me a million times more anxious about going out.

I already did one field report and as you guys can see I was being a pussy and it took me 2 weeks to build up the courage to go out to bars alone. Check that out if you guys are curious 1st Time Solo Night Gaming
 

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This is going to be long post so skip down to the TLDR for the highlights.

Week 2:
Originally I wanted to try going out 3 days of the week but unfortunately week days here suck so can only do Friday and Saturday. Something came up on one of the weekend days so I was only able to go out once during the weekend.

Weekday Failure:
In a lot of cities Thursdays are pretty lit so I wanted to try my luck and see if its true here. I found out there is this happy hour restaurant that's only a 2 minute drive from me so I popped in right after work. Its primarily a restaurant but the bar area is surprisingly big so I walked in and did a lap but EVERY single seat by the bar was taken. Its one of those places that's awkward to be standing around if your not seated so I probably won't be going back unless I am lucky enough to finish work like an hour or 2 early to guarantee a seat, so I walked right out.

Then I got hungry so stopped somewhere for food and was gonna call it a day but the itch to game was overwhelming me so I decided to go to a bar that was very close to the one I went out to last weekend. Got there a few minutes before 7pm and the bar area was empty AF there was like 2 old dudes chatting with each other and maybe like 3 tables were occupied. After like 15 minutes they start doing this trivia game thing but it looks like people were heading out and it was super empty, so I left after another 10 mins. I walked around the area and everything seemed dead so just gonna assume weekdays suck here and called it a day.

Weekend Game Plan:
The game plan was to go out and hit up 2 bars for warm up and then hit up another spot at peak hours and go hard with approaches. Keep in mind I am still green and don't know where the good spots are so I am still feeling these places out.

Bar 1:
So I hit up that bar from my 1st field report, the one I immediately walked out from due to the vibe being too crowded and loud. I figured since I got there earlier this time that it wouldn't be as hectic and I was right. I was just planing to warm up there and only spend like 15 mins. Btw excuse the ambiguity I'm paranoid about being doxxed but you can PM me if need more details.

I make my way to the bar and as I am walking toward it, it seems like there are at least 4 seats available. As I get closer I notice that the seats I want are actually taken as I see a purse on one of them and food by the other 2. There was only 1 seat available and I did not want to sit there because its furthest from the TV and the game looked interesting but I had no choice. As soon as I sit and finish ordering from the bartender the chick next to me starts talking to me. Shes hot but I was trying not to talk to her since shes there with a dude so I just make a quick comment about what she said and then immediately mind my own business. After like 30 seconds the dude leaves and she starts talking to me again and at this point I thought the dude had went to the bathroom or something so I was kinda confused why she re-engaged, but after like 3 minutes she mentions how guys there are annoying and keep trying to hit on her and how shes glad that I'm talking to her and that shes enjoying our convo. This was odd to me because I was only talking to her for like 3 minutes but I politely accept the compliment and reciprocate the energy.

So shit starts getting interesting from here. I'm just shooting the shit with her and start sensing that shes super green and shes touching me a lot. So my intuition tells me I need to start to qualify based on the feedback I got a while ago from this thread Brutal Streak Without Closing so I start to qualify and spice it up. Now its where I feel I start to fumble a little. Its almost Halloween so she starts talking about some costume that she wants to wear or whatever but I wasn't reading too much into it. But then it gets spicy and I'm not going to get into specifics so PM if curious but she starts throwing sexual bait and every time a chick has thrown sexual bait at me this explicitly and I go along with it they loose attraction so I purposely misinterpret what she said and smoothly redirect convo. I also start getting annoyed because there are a lot of chatty drunk people both men and women barging into our convo but I feel I did a decent job controlling them and deflecting them off.

So we continue talking and she keeps throwing sexual baits at me and my intuition is telling me that its not ill-intended but there's also a voice in my head saying that its some weird shit test. I chose not to acknowledge her sexual bait but instead to take it as a sign I need to physically escalate. At this point I freak out a little because this bar has no good area where I can try and go for physical escalations or a make out but after a few minutes I was able to think of a good excuse to get her to come outside with me. We go outside chat for 10 seconds and then we start making out. She mentions how she needs to go soon so we go back in to the bar and close out our tabs. Now this is where I mess up and want to karate chop myself. We were talking logistics earlier and she only lives like 3 mins from the bar but I'm like 25 mins away. I completely blank out with pulling anxiety and don't know what to say. All of my pulls have been from places super close to my apartment so I never had to "seed pulls" because I would get them to walk with me and then be like hey I live right there you want to come up and do xyz real quick. My brain was telling me to try and think of a way to invite myself to her house since shes a lot closer but my mind went blank. I just remember over complicating shit in my head like wait how does this work, is she supposed to hop in my car or follow me from her car. Idk it just felt super weird to me and I froze up. Anyways we decided to go to another bar instead and nothing noteworthy happens at the other location except that the vibe there was better for making out so we make out a little. She starts getting sleepy so shes like I gotta dip but she wants to see me again so we exchange numbers and then I dip to another spot.

Bars 2 and 3:
So the next 2 bars are pretty far. I decided to go straight to the main bar I wanted to go to for peak hours so I skipped the 2nd warm up bar. As soon as I get there I see that the people walking in look different than the type of crowd I was expecting to be there. I walk up to the entrance and I see signs saying there's some event going on in there and in my head I'm like "fuckkkkk" and the bouncer is like yeah someone rented the place out for an event but we will be open next weekend. So I decide to drive over to the other bar where I was supposed to go to for warm up. I get lost AF trying to find the place its in a weird location. I finally get there and I like the vibe there as the lights are dim, its quiet, but there aren't any attractive women there. The man to woman ratio was bad and the few good looking women who were there seemed to be with their boyfriends. I stayed there for 10 mins then dipped.

TLDR Important Takeaways:
What I learned:
  • The strategy I had in mind from last week about talking to bartenders is not a good game plan. I'm noticing now that in places with more than 1 bartender they tend to congregate among themselves and ignore you. Cant rely on bartenders to give me more alley-oops.
  • Lighting in bars makes a huge difference. Dim quiet bars come in clutch so hopefully I find more that have that vibe.
  • Crowded bars with bad layouts for escalating are still useful if they are near quiet bars that have dim lighting. Approach in the crowded bar and then plan to move them to the quieter one for physical escalation or whatever.
The good:
  • Significantly improving my qualification skills. My previous mistake was that the compliment was too big for the context and the delivery was off. Adjusted the compliments so that they are more appropriate for the context and also adjusted the delivery. I am also gaining better intuition of when they are giving signals that they need compliments and how to force it.
  • The rust is gone when it comes to physical escalation. Was able to go for the kiss without hesitation whereas last week I had a green and didn't move her anywhere or physically escalate.
What I need to work on:
  • I'm noticing severe pulling anxiety. I need to be more prepared and assertive. If I get nervous I should at least TRY something even if it wrecks the set. I keep freezing up.
  • I haven't approached yet. To an extent its not my fault because of the lack of targets but I am still itching to become an approach machine.
Random Observations:
  • This is the 2nd week in a row where a woman opens me and its super on. I suspect its because I'm alone, low key, good smiling energy, and look like I'm minding my business instead of out there scoping out the place hunting for women. I also suspect it might be this new cologne I'm wearing which is super loud. I'm going to alternate between wearing cologne and not wearing to see if it makes any difference.
  • I noticed that some of these bars seem to have A LOT of regulars. I'm keeping an eye out for that because that could mean that I might burn some places out and that I might have to be more sneaky with my game.
 

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This is going to be long post so skip down to the TLDR for the highlights.

Week 2:
Originally I wanted to try going out 3 days of the week but unfortunately week days here suck so can only do Friday and Saturday. Something came up on one of the weekend days so I was only able to go out once during the weekend.

Weekday Failure:
In a lot of cities Thursdays are pretty lit so I wanted to try my luck and see if its true here. I found out there is this happy hour restaurant that's only a 2 minute drive from me so I popped in right after work. Its primarily a restaurant but the bar area is surprisingly big so I walked in and did a lap but EVERY single seat by the bar was taken. Its one of those places that's awkward to be standing around if your not seated so I probably won't be going back unless I am lucky enough to finish work like an hour or 2 early to guarantee a seat, so I walked right out.
Thursday in most us cities is college night due to most universities and college don't have classes on Fridays or just cultural in USA...
Then I got hungry so stopped somewhere for food and was gonna call it a day but the itch to game was overwhelming me so I decided to go to a bar that was very close to the one I went out to last weekend. Got there a few minutes before 7pm and the bar area was empty AF there was like 2 old dudes chatting with each other and maybe like 3 tables were occupied. After like 15 minutes they start doing this trivia game thing but it looks like people were heading out and it was super empty, so I left after another 10 mins. I walked around the area and everything seemed dead so just gonna assume weekdays suck here and called it a day.
No you can't assume that, cause is random and very inconsistent SPECIALLY NOW A DAYS, you don't have enough data to know if is always dead... And sometimes you can get your best pulls when is kind of dead, happens a lot...You stand out more i think is my reasoning..

Weekend Game Plan:
The game plan was to go out and hit up 2 bars for warm up and then hit up another spot at peak hours and go hard with approaches. Keep in mind I am still green and don't know where the good spots are so I am still feeling these places out.

Bar 1:
So I hit up that bar from my 1st field report, the one I immediately walked out from due to the vibe being too crowded and loud. I figured since I got there earlier this time that it wouldn't be as hectic and I was right. I was just planing to warm up there and only spend like 15 mins. Btw excuse the ambiguity I'm paranoid about being doxxed but you can PM me if need more details.

I make my way to the bar and as I am walking toward it, it seems like there are at least 4 seats available. As I get closer I notice that the seats I want are actually taken as I see a purse on one of them and food by the other 2. There was only 1 seat available and I did not want to sit there because its furthest from the TV and the game looked interesting but I had no choice. As soon as I sit and finish ordering from the bartender the chick next to me starts talking to me. Shes hot but I was trying not to talk to her since shes there with a dude so I just make a quick comment about what she said and then immediately mind my own business. After like 30 seconds the dude leaves and she starts talking to me again and at this point I thought the dude had went to the bathroom or something so I was kinda confused why she re-engaged, but after like 3 minutes she mentions how guys there are annoying and keep trying to hit on her and how shes glad that I'm talking to her and that shes enjoying our convo. This was odd to me because I was only talking to her for like 3 minutes but I politely accept the compliment and reciprocate the energy.

Never assume the guy and the girl are together EVER, I told you to always bring the convo on how they know each other? old school mm or skills style, i joke around hey i don't want to disrespect anybody if your date or boyfriend chill/cool?? i don't want to get beat up (like self deprecating joke, but no necessary this part), she will answer if they are together... either way will work... Also when you just make a comment, and chill and not plow like you did, subcommunicates you are cool and chill... Finally, she knew what she was doing is a huge ioi, when women talk shit about boyfriends, hubby or dudes in the bar... You can say yea a lot of creepers, i don't envy you girls blah blah, you can even go into ss frames and expand...
So shit starts getting interesting from here. I'm just shooting the shit with her and start sensing that shes super green and shes touching me a lot. So my intuition tells me I need to start to qualify based on the feedback I got a while ago from this thread Brutal Streak Without Closing so I start to qualify and spice it up. Now its where I feel I start to fumble a little. Its almost Halloween so she starts talking about some costume that she wants to wear or whatever but I wasn't reading too much into it. But then it gets spicy and I'm not going to get into specifics so PM if curious but she starts throwing sexual bait and every time a chick has thrown sexual bait at me this explicitly and I go along with it they loose attraction so I purposely misinterpret what she said and smoothly redirect convo. I also start getting annoyed because there are a lot of chatty drunk people both men and women barging into our convo but I feel I did a decent job controlling them and deflecting them off.
You can go into it publicly brah nobody is going to doxx you, a bit paranoid, this is not a blackpill forum...Anyways, You are too much in your head, thinking on steps to do on what you are going to say, you should know more or less and have reliable things that at on autopilot if you are out of it... Or just stay quiet if you get stuck but relax and let sexual tension built... But Halloween customs talking about is the women night to be slutty cause they don't feel judge... so much stuff to take the convo too sexually... By the way this is the main topic people can banter with for the next couple of weeks, chick crack halloween customs
So we continue talking and she keeps throwing sexual baits at me and my intuition is telling me that its not ill-intended but there's also a voice in my head saying that its some weird shit test. I chose not to acknowledge her sexual bait but instead to take it as a sign I need to physically escalate. At this point I freak out a little because this bar has no good area where I can try and go for physical escalations or a make out but after a few minutes I was able to think of a good excuse to get her to come outside with me. We go outside chat for 10 seconds and then we start making out. She mentions how she needs to go soon so we go back in to the bar and close out our tabs. Now this is where I mess up and want to karate chop myself. We were talking logistics earlier and she only lives like 3 mins from the bar but I'm like 25 mins away. I completely blank out with pulling anxiety and don't know what to say. All of my pulls have been from places super close to my apartment so I never had to "seed pulls" because I would get them to walk with me and then be like hey I live right there you want to come up and do xyz real quick. My brain was telling me to try and think of a way to invite myself to her house since shes a lot closer but my mind went blank. I just remember over complicating shit in my head like wait how does this work, is she supposed to hop in my car or follow me from her car. Idk it just felt super weird to me and I froze up. Anyways we decided to go to another bar instead and nothing noteworthy happens at the other location except that the vibe there was better for making out so we make out a little. She starts getting sleepy so shes like I gotta dip but she wants to see me again so we exchange numbers and then I dip to another spot.
Brah! you don't need to isolate that much, you can form what we call bubless i can be in a middle of a packed club or bar and many guys and do what we call bubles, is you and her focus on each other, the isolation don't be to be like a corner etc... in fact at times does think backfire.... My point is you can just look in her eyes wishper in her ears etc.. in the middle of a crowder bar or club, just make sure you mantain her social proof.... So don't put so much pressure in yourself, "ok i walk you to the car, too many creepers here" done, sometimes they say you don't have to, you say of course no, but too many creepers, and usually after 3 times they let you walk them to car (if this is the case have them drive you to your car) or to their apt. if you done things right, you don't even say nothing, you can just let me use the bathroom real quick, or even let me come if for a cup of coffee (if you know you have the lay as troll job), it does not matter, if she says no, ask one more time, if not there the lay is ok, you can do a second encounter.... But this girl was down...

Fun guy for the pull anxiety just don't think of isolation, but more like staying in set, and just be a bit more prepare... You need to be more explicit in situations vs being scare in your reports, even if you say something stupid or cringe...
 

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Thursday in most us cities is college night due to most universities and college don't have classes on Fridays or just cultural in USA...
Yes thanks for bringing that up. I should hit up the university areas. My dumbass was in an area where there are no colleges anywhere near on a Thursday.
Never assume the guy and the girl are together EVER, I told you to always bring the convo on how they know each other? old school mm or skills style, i joke around hey i don't want to disrespect anybody if your date or boyfriend chill/cool?? i don't want to get beat up (like self deprecating joke, but no necessary this part), she will answer if they are together... either way will work... Also when you just make a comment, and chill and not plow like you did, subcommunicates you are cool and chill... Finally, she knew what she was doing is a huge ioi, when women talk shit about boyfriends, hubby or dudes in the bar... You can say yea a lot of creepers, i don't envy you girls blah blah, you can even go into ss frames and expand...
That's a good point I have to open chicks even if they are with a dude and stop making assumptions. I am stealing those lines and the funny thing is that it actually sounds like something I would say. We have very similar sense of humor.

And yeah when she mentioned that dudes were hitting in her I responded with a story about one of my exes who would get hit on like crazy and said something like "Idk how yall do it its super annoying". When I was out with my ex and stepped away to go to bathroom and when I would return there would be like 3 dudes trying to talk to her.
You can go into it publicly brah nobody is going to doxx you, a bit paranoid, this is not a blackpill forum...Anyways, You are too much in your head, thinking on steps to do on what you are going to say, you should know more or less and have reliable things that at on autopilot if you are out of it... Or just stay quiet if you get stuck but relax and let sexual tension built... But Halloween customs talking about is the women night to be slutty cause they don't feel judge... so much stuff to take the convo too sexually... By the way this is the main topic people can banter with for the next couple of weeks, chick crack halloween customs
I will PM you about the sexual bait she kept using. I'm curious about how you would respond in that situation.
Brah! you don't need to isolate that much, you can form what we call bubless i can be in a middle of a packed club or bar and many guys and do what we call bubles, is you and her focus on each other, the isolation don't be to be like a corner etc... in fact at times does think backfire.... My point is you can just look in her eyes wishper in her ears etc.. in the middle of a crowder bar or club, just make sure you mantain her social proof.... So don't put so much pressure in yourself, "ok i walk you to the car, too many creepers here" done, sometimes they say you don't have to, you say of course no, but too many creepers, and usually after 3 times they let you walk them to car (if this is the case have them drive you to your car) or to their apt. if you done things right, you don't even say nothing, you can just let me use the bathroom real quick, or even let me come if for a cup of coffee (if you know you have the lay as troll job), it does not matter, if she says no, ask one more time, if not there the lay is ok, you can do a second encounter.... But this girl was down...

Its a problem with some of the bars here when its not crowded. This particular bar is very open there are no dividers anywhere so it feels like a giant classroom. Very bright lights and everyone there was looking at us so I try not to kiss girls in front of people. I don't mind doing that when its crowded and you don't stand out. I did use sexual verbals but this chick was very touchy so I could tell she wanted some physical escalations.

Fun guy for the pull anxiety just don't think of isolation, but more like staying in set, and just be a bit more prepare... You need to be more explicit in situations vs being scare in your reports, even if you say something stupid or cringe...

Yes I have to stop being a pussy with pulling. I wasn't prepared because I wasn't expecting to get this far so quickly since I am so new to going out alone. Hopefully I get a chance to try again soon as I feel like these past 2 weeks were flukes.


Thank you for all the tips god skills! Definitely taking notes and trying it out on the weekend. Will report back.
 

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Yes thanks for bringing that up. I should hit up the university areas. My dumbass was in an area where there are no colleges anywhere near on a Thursday.
Has nothing to do with university areas, most clubs and bars are college nights in USA on thursday is implied they will not announce "college night" and you do not need to be close to an university (but yea likely clubs and bars closer to university but again, not necessarily in usa...
That's a good point I have to open chicks even if they are with a dude and stop making assumptions. I am stealing those lines and the funny thing is that it actually sounds like something I would say. We have very similar sense of humor.

Yeah read this post and the different lay reports i link, every scenario you will encounter on night game, i have experienced and have different post and LAY REPORTS on it, that i can link to:

https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/dealing-with-the-boyfriend-hubby-partner.29059/
And yeah when she mentioned that dudes were hitting in her I responded with a story about one of my exes who would get hit on like crazy and said something like "Idk how yall do it its super annoying". When I was out with my ex and stepped away to go to bathroom and when I would return there would be like 3 dudes trying to talk to her.
Yes, i actually have an opener based on situations like that, in which i actually open like she open you in reverse lol: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/the-creepers-opener.26207/

I will PM you about the sexual bait she kept using. I'm curious about how you would respond in that situation.
i responded and link you to a post on that scenario
Its a problem with some of the bars here when its not crowded. This particular bar is very open there are no dividers anywhere so it feels like a giant classroom. Very bright lights and everyone there was looking at us so I try not to kiss girls in front of people. I don't mind doing that when its crowded and you don't stand out. I did use sexual verbals but this chick was very touchy so I could tell she wanted some physical escalations.
you can kiss in front of people while helping save face no sloppy make outs read @Glow post for context on what i am talking about, DOESN'T MATTER WERE YOU DO IT, i am trying to explain that to you, again bubbles, with gen z girls if you kiss denie when she gives you opportunity unlike milleneals or gen x, in many cases we have lost girls, not only me, a lot of guys gaming with previous gens have to depogram themselves from kiss denials, not always, but if a girl is trying to be on and you delay, many gen z girls will bail and you will lose them, you don't understand how many girls WE guys that game other gen have lost from kiss denials including me with gen z, not always you got lucky a lot of girls will just autoreject from gen z, anyways here:

"Think of and learn to understand kissing as just a part of escalation and not consider it such as single key move of impact. Sixty, sleazy and the letter etc taught us that long time ago. The overemphasis on kissing is just popular belief and clumsy make-out types. As an example of what the community has taught us is that we can just reframe what kissing is through sexual nuance delivered eg verbally as eg. teevster has taught and showed us long time ago can be done with sex talk related doings. And there are many models for handling this.

You wanna Look at how you kiss - eg kiss to excite and arouse is different from all in makeouts, sensory kissing etc. if you kiss to arouse and swerve it in sexual frames and sensitivity to her the ASD will not happen. And there are ways to manage her past that point. Especially if you combine it with playfulness, use of silent space, proximity and other stimulators that smoothns it all up. This is just a majority as if shes already sexually activated you can use it differently.

To OP - best move for you is to look at micro escalation from MASF days - sixty years of challenge and try to understand the small points of micro escalation before the kiss. eg use of slowed down proximity to arouse. eg escalating the vibe and using silence etc.

Then expand your understanding of that to create moments and sensing where she is on the dates instead of caring too much about the kiss. all the moments we can make as part of escalatory doings. moments of deep bliss, moments of pure sexuality, moments of nostalgic romanticism etc. its on moments, discretion behaviours etc.

Moments and how you kiss can create a whole different experience of the kiss for her. The starting point is ofc where she is for how you engage. But the seductive challenge is to alter that initially if shes back heeling on it for whatever mental reasons.

Example: Just move close to her and oose and relax in closer proximity w her. Your bodies and the space will do the work. You can either do this w silence or as you stroll along something, more subtle. This creates a moment between you where she feels something. playfully pushing her will too. aligning your face after she speaks and holding the silence for a few secs will too. leading her around the place a bit behind her, hand on her waist will too. maybe a more firm look or presence to emphasise a more dominant or purposeful vibe. Appreciating something she does explicitly is a sensual-affectionate smoothner too etc etc. each forms soft points or moments that enables your moves. This all happens in with other things you do as you interact but provide the escalatory layer and momentum between you. Sixty outlines a simple model thats good for learning this.

Also consider her state - if shes sexually aroused and has hit a carefree mood its no prob. the date setup should be adjusted to provide a frame that stimulates the right thing eg sexuality and wildness instead of oldscool courtship etc. Ofc. this needs to b related to her and her starting point for things. but take charge of these things smartly. Work it. Know your influence."





Yes I have to stop being a pussy with pulling. I wasn't prepared because I wasn't expecting to get this far so quickly since I am so new to going out alone. Hopefully I get a chance to try again soon as I feel like these past 2 weeks were flukes.
it is easier to pull if you go out alone brah! way easier...
Thank you for all the tips god skills! Definitely taking notes and trying it out on the weekend. Will report back.

go to my blog and do a search on tales from the club.... you can get ideas...read one or 2 tales pre going out...
 

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This week felt more like an actual week 1 than the first. This is the first week where my feet were put to the fire and I didn't get opened by a chick. Friday was a complete and utter failure but Saturday was more insightful.

Week 3:

Friday Failure:

I messed up on Friday by taking too long to get ready. I had a lot of work stuff and chores to finish which caused me to head out from my apartment late. The game plan was to hit up new bars including the warm up location and then drive to the main city and hit up bars in the downtown area. I got to the warm up location too late and there weren't any seats available by the bar area. I thought about grabbing a table just to people watch and scope out the vibe but the setup makes it hard to see what's going on from the tables. There's also 2 big areas that are blocked from the view if you sit on the tables so I dipped. The next 2 bars I had on the list were unfortunately located in an area where there's absolutely no parking and I wasn't going to pay an arm and a leg for parking. The 3rd bar was the one I was the most eager to go to based on the photos and its reputation. Once I got there the line was super long and I was at the tail end of it. 10 minutes has passed and the line was not moving so I dipped. I then drive to different area to hit up a bar I've been to before and it was a complete sausage fest. This is the first time I go to a bar area that isn't empty and has absolutely no women there. I figured I'd test my luck and chill for a few and they might start coming in. Posted up for like 30 minutes, and while you can see that chicks were coming in they all went to the tables. I will give this bar 1 more chance before I slash it off the list as the 2 times I've been there its a hot dog factory.

Saturday Bar 1:
Same game plan as Friday except that I made sure to get ready early and to avoid bars in downtown due to terrible parking. So I hit up the same warm up bar from Friday but I went a lot earlier and there were a lot of seats available. I like the setup of the bar because its square shaped so you can people watch and see if there are any cuties. A few minutes in I noticed a 2 set walk in and sit all the way to the back but they were far so I couldn't tell if they were cute. Things finally starts picking up at around the same time that they setup the karaoke so I am guessing people come here mainly for karaoke. I notice there's a chick obviously eyeing me toward the right and I also caught another chick discreetly eyeing me from the left but as soon as I caught her and made eye contact she quickly looked away and tried to play it off. Bad thing here is that I'm noticing that your kind of stuck having to only interact with people directly next to you as it would be weird getting up to go sit next to someone else. I wen't to the bathroom and when I got back there was a woman on the seat next to me but shes like 60. I noticed she looked over while I went to sit down so I said Hi and thought about talking to her to get in talking mode but I can't get myself to talk to people I'm not genuinely interested so I just minded my business. Like 20 seconds later her friend came in who was also like 60 years old. Her friend looked at me and made a joke about how annoying it is to get the bartenders attention so we both laughed. I also noticed that when she did get the bartenders attention that she ordered the same beer I was drinking and I'm not sure if she did that on purpose but I wasn't motivated to talk to her so I just minded my business. Things then start to get pretty lit. A lot of people singing on the karaoke and having a good time but I was eager to hit up the next spot and didn't want to be stuck on the line like I was on previous night so I dipped.

Saturday Bar 2:
This was the bar I was hype about going to. Last weekend it was rented out for an event so I couldn't go in and then Friday the line was too long so I couldn't go in. Once I got there the line wasn't too long so I get in after like 5 minutes and I noticed that a lot of people had on Halloween costumes. The place is packed and its significantly smaller than what it looked like in the pictures and it has more of a club vibe than a bar vibe. The good is that its by far the place that had the most chicks and the bad was that its kinda tricky to open there. I post up by the bar area and notice a 2 set standing next to me but they were kinda ugly so I didn't bother opening. I start noticing that people would come by the bar to order and quickly dip. They didn't linger after getting their drinks. A few minutes later some dude orders and then does a weird opener so I thought he was gay but it turns out he was there with his girl so just shot the shit with him for like 5 minutes. Then some chick pulls up and orders like 4 drinks and I noticed she had an interesting costume so I opened her with a comment about it but it was clunky so it didn't hook. I scan the place every 10 minutes or so and what I notice is that most of the chicks are kinda there just standing around with their group dancing and looking kinda bored and I'm not trying to dance so I won't even attempt opening them. I feel like this is the best place to get reps in so I'm moving this spot to the top of my list. This place is in urgent need of a bigger space. It should have a separate dancing section and a separate lounge area. Everything is like awkwardly intermixed and even the bathroom and dj booth is located kinda weird.

Saturday Bar 3:
Headed back to the bar from week 1 where the bartender gave me an alley oop. Its emptier than I expected but I figured I'd sit and chill for a while. Very mixed crowd in this area and again a lot of people with costumes. I'm noticing a pattern that it seems like the younger folks are in big groups with very high energy and look like they just bar hop or go in there to pregame while the older people are chill and actually stay there for a while. I go to the bathroom and while I'm walking back I notice there's some chick on one of the tables eyeing me. Then a few minutes later a mixed 3 set walks in 2 chicks and 1 gay dude and they get next to me. I'm a bit perplexed of why they stay standing up instead of sitting down. The dude is clearly the leader of the group he has an extremely flamboyant costume, seems to know a lot of people there, and is super loud. I thought about opening but the dude's energy was repelling me as I was getting vibes that he would just start talking too much and kill the vibe. They immediately dipped after they drank their shots and now it made sense why they didn't bother to sit down. I had to go to the bathroom and on the way back the same chick from the table was eyeing me again. Everyone at her table looked bored AF I don't understand why that group was hanging out there for so long just sitting around staring into space. Nothing eventful or insightful happened here as it was a slow night here so I dipped after like an hour of chilling there. I'm assuming there was a lot of Halloween parties going on hence why people were coming in and leaving after only spending 3-10 minutes there so hopefully its busier on a more normal weekend.

TLDR Important Takeaways:
What I learned:
  • Downtown in the city sucks due to lack of parking. Avoid at all costs.
  • Don't expect alley-oops. The first 2 weeks were flukes so cannot expect the miracle of being approached by chicks.
  • Starting to get a feel for the good spots.
  • Its good hitting up a warm up spot to get into a comfortable relaxed state. I would've probably felt uncomfortable going straight into that loud venue as the first spot.
The good:
  • I finally opened a set.
What I need to work on:
  • Need to open more sets.
  • I have to fix how I open in venues with club vibes. I have to be more invasive and milk the opener with more banter so that it forces strong eye contact. I feel like I didn't hook that one chick because I wasn't close enough and the opening line was too short.
Random Observations:
  • There aren't any cool looking guys or chads going out. I did not see not ONE. I'm assuming that they all stick to the dating apps.
  • Places with younger crowds have more of an anti-social vibe going on. In places with younger crowds you see a lot more pretentiousness and people standing around looking bored. In places with older crowds it seems like the vibe is a lot better and everyone is mingling and having a good time and drinking more.
  • Women 2 sets are extremely rare and every 2 set I have seen so far has the same dynamic. They have all looked bored, glued to their phone instead of talking to each other, and tend to gravitate towards obscure areas of the bars where they almost seem invisible. Not sure why that happens but its an interesting observation.
  • The overwhelming majority of sets are mixed groups of 4 or more people. The mixed groups tend to have more men in them than women. The groups that are women-only seem to exclusively have attention seeking women in them.
  • There seems to be a huge variance in peak hours depending on the bar. This is weird and annoying because you have to plan around it for each individual bar. Some of the places seem to get early crowds like 9 while some are practically empty until like 10:30ish
 
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Are you giving up good venue opportunities downtown because of parking? Cities typically don't enforce municipal parking bylaws (daytime parking meters) past a certain time of night. No street parking around?

Great journal btw. Good detail and reflections. Keep it up!
 

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Also one thing stressed by Mystery is to open the first set on your left within three seconds of entering the venue.

His point was your social proof talking to ugly girls is still higher than standing alone silently. And it will build social momentum (that will also carry over between venues) to get you taking more risk opening.

For example if you had opened the ugly two set, and/or the other two girls with the gay guy... You could have treated them as pure warmups and ended up doing something like motioning the bored girl from the table over, opening the group, hitting the perimeter to find the two girls in the corner, etc.
 

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Are you giving up good venue opportunities downtown because of parking? Cities typically don't enforce municipal parking bylaws (daytime parking meters) past a certain time of night. No street parking around?

Great journal btw. Good detail and reflections. Keep it up!
awesome point, yes!

@FunGuy you need to find the tricks and places to park, even in Miami beach on the top days i used to park free, there are ways around it...

and yes in certain places in the metters after certain part of the night (in my city 11 is free)
 

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Points for going @FunGuy!

Couple of tricks to maybe help you:

Small trick to build momentum:
Just do the things you dont feel like doing one by one to build momentum.
dont wanna go out - went out // momentum+1
dont wanna go to the bar next to those guys - do it // momentum+2
dont wanna go closer to cute two set - go next to them // momentum+3
want a drink but holding back . buy one // momentum+4
All these will-power overwrites gives a momentum+ and you will get a roll.. at a given time you will just also just open girls via the momentum++++.

Mingling around almost leaving as you open set after set is a simple way to open lightly with less risk and get on a roll - do it for 20 min and many will be tuned for a whole night. Ill seee if i can find Ijjjjis original post and repost.

You can also do badass entries where you pump your state before your entrance feeling like a bad ass.

last - Igniting your turn on - sorta sucking women in visually can also provide for the sexual juice to enable you. Adding a lil "youre mine" mindset to it might help fuel a bit of positive fury. When i say fury its more inner drive than outer behavior.
 

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Are you giving up good venue opportunities downtown because of parking? Cities typically don't enforce municipal parking bylaws (daytime parking meters) past a certain time of night. No street parking around?

Great journal btw. Good detail and reflections. Keep it up!
Thanks bro! Appreciate the vibes.

The downtown area those 2 bars are located in have no parallel parking nearby. It's also very unwalkable as there are no sidewalks or street crossing for pedestrians. Like 3-4 exits north on the freeway there's a better area which is where the bar I ended up going to was located. I did overhear some chicks speaking about a bar that was nearby and how she saw a lot of familiar faces who were there earlier so I'm guessing people bar hop in that area a lot. I have to research and find out wtf spot she was talking about.

Also one thing stressed by Mystery is to open the first set on your left within three seconds of entering the venue.

His point was your social proof talking to ugly girls is still higher than standing alone silently. And it will build social momentum (that will also carry over between venues) to get you taking more risk opening.

For example if you had opened the ugly two set, and/or the other two girls with the gay guy... You could have treated them as pure warmups and ended up doing something like motioning the bored girl from the table over, opening the group, hitting the perimeter to find the two girls in the corner, etc.
You are 100% right. I'm going to read this post like 3,00,000,000 times before I go out because I have to stop being lazy. Thank you for giving me motivation and not letting me get away with being a lazy fuck. I still detest talking to dudes but will try to open chicks and even speak to the grandmas if they happen to be next to me again.

Points for going @FunGuy!

Couple of tricks to maybe help you:

Small trick to build momentum:
Just do the things you dont feel like doing one by one to build momentum.
dont wanna go out - went out // momentum+1
dont wanna go to the bar next to those guys - do it // momentum+2
dont wanna go closer to cute two set - go next to them // momentum+3
want a drink but holding back . buy one // momentum+4
All these will-power overwrites gives a momentum+ and you will get a roll.. at a given time you will just also just open girls via the momentum++++.

Mingling around almost leaving as you open set after set is a simple way to open lightly with less risk and get on a roll - do it for 20 min and many will be tuned for a whole night. Ill seee if i can find Ijjjjis original post and repost.

You can also do badass entries where you pump your state before your entrance feeling like a bad ass.

last - Igniting your turn on - sorta sucking women in visually can also provide for the sexual juice to enable you. Adding a lil "youre mine" mindset to it might help fuel a bit of positive fury. When i say fury its more inner drive than outer behavior.
That's an excellent point I never thought of it that way. You guys are out here playing 4d chess while I'm playing checkers so I gotta step it up. I do notice that even small interactions do put me more in social mode so have to take advantage of that. Going to read this post a million times before I go out this weekend.
 

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I googled @Skills tales from the club he said to read before going out and got the one about hopping right into the car, won't ruin it for you.

Have fun man! There are newer books from Mystery, but Karea (Ricardus) recommended the original Venusian Arts Handbook. That and 60 years of challenge complete game system might be worth a read for the night game insights.
 

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I googled @Skills tales from the club he said to read before going out and got the one about hopping right into the car, won't ruin it for you.

Have fun man! There are newer books from Mystery, but Karea (Ricardus) recommended the original Venusian Arts Handbook. That and 60 years of challenge complete game system might be worth a read for the night game insights.
lol you do need to google you go on the site and the site has a search function, you put tales from the club...
 

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This week was such a failure because I did ZERO approaches and I am disappointed at myself smh too much AA. I almost decided not to write an entry this week but I don't want to break the habit so here we go. This might be a boring read as I'm mostly venting so feel free to skip over this week's uneventful entry.

Week 4:

Friday & How It Started:

This Friday I also took too long to get ready but not nearly as bad as last week. I'm noticing that I just take forever to do my chores and I have to do them on Friday so that my apartment is clean and sexy in case I am lucky enough to pull. The week was pretty busy so I didn't have time to prepare and reflect like I usually do so I had to switch gears quick and rushed to get ready and started driving to the warm up location. Once I was close to the bar and was pulling in to parking area, I noticed that my nervousness went from 0 to 100 real quick. I haven't been this nervous to go into a bar since week 1 and there was a loud voice in my head yelling at me to do a u-turn and go home. Its very weird that I was so nervous because this week was a very social week at work due to Halloween so there was social activities going on almost every day but that oddly that did not put me in social mode for Friday night.

Friday Bar 1:
I was able to ignore my nervousness and go into the warm up bar. The nerves immediately evaporated as soon as I walked in but as I scan the place its already packed. I prefer getting to warm up locations when its still kinda empty as I like starting off in a chill vibe and slowly building to the more hectic vibe. It kinda shocks my nervous system and makes me feel out of place when I jump straight into a venue that's too hectic. Although it was packed there wasn't that many women it was mostly dudes. I'm starting to notice that the groups of women usually start storming in later on. Chilled there for like 30 mins then went to 2nd bar.

Friday Bar 2:
This bar was also packed and as I walk in I notice there is only 1 available seat by the bar and there's food there. I want to sit there because its awkward standing up so I tap the dude who was next to the seat to ask if its taken and instead of giving a simple yes or no answer he gives attitude and a long winded answer and I had to summon all my might to not to swing at him with a Gervonta Davis uppercut. Anyways I sit and notice my bartender is working tonight so I greet him then I just mind my business and watch the game. Like 5 minutes later the asshole starts giving the bartender attitude about the food and I can tell the dude's drunk. The drunk dude was in a 4 set of 2 dudes 2 chicks and something felt off about the vibe in his group but I couldn't quite put a finger to it. Like 5 more minutes pass and one of the drunk dude's friends walks in and hes like bro I was waiting for you outside for like 10 minutes we were supposed to leave why are you still in here. The drunkard leaves and other guy from the 4 set get up and leave. I guess the bartender had peeped what was going on so he walked to the 2 chicks and said something like "What was the deal with that guy" and the chicks immediately start talking shit about him. It turns out that those 2 chicks were just there minding their business and the 2 dudes were trying to chat them up. They have a lot of patience because most women would have excused themselves and left with an annoying drunk trying to talk to them. I look at the time and I've only been in the bar like 30 minutes and everyone is already leaving and it got EMPTY real quick so I dip.

Friday Bar 3:
Its already quite late but I didn't feel like going home so I'm like fuck it let me go back to the first karaoke bar to see if there's still any movement going on. To my surprise when I get there its still lit and there's a shit ton of women there. My AA gets the best of me and I don't approach anyone. People are also a lot drunker so the vibes are better and everyone is turning up on the karaoke area dancing and singing. I'm surprised that so many people can actually sing good as I'm used to needing ear transplants after listening to people do karaoke. Made a mental note to swap out the warm up locations with the actual "sarge" locations as the warm up is more lit. Anyways not much happens due to AA so I chill there for a while then dip.

Saturday Game Plan:
I was so disappointed with Friday so I spent the day practicing opening and trying to hype myself up. I had to be vigilant about the weather because its supposed to be a lot of rain and lightning storms so I was prepared to stay in if it did get ugly. I was too eager to get reps in so I decided I would go out regardless of the weather conditions.

Saturday Bar 1:
Since I realized that my go to warm up location is too lit to be a warm up, I decided to hit up a different spot. I went to that one bar I went for warm up on week 2 and I was super hype until I got there...... as soon as I pull into the parking area I see the car of the chick I made out with on week 2. For the days right after we exchanged numbers she was very over bearing so I stopped texting her so there would be weird tension if I were to bump into her. I didn't want any drama so I didn't bother going in. Started making my way to another warm up location. Decided to go to the bar that I am contemplating to cross off my list to give it one last chance.

Saturday Bar 2:
I walk in and immediately notice that this is the first time I see a woman by herself at a bar. Random note but the bar here is very weird because its sorta like a zig-zag shape similar to a Z. Anyways I notice shes in deep convo with the bartender and I thought about sitting next to her but my AA was in full effect. I sit 2 seats down from her in the corner spot and there's an older couple directly to my left. I notice as dudes pull up to the bar to order drinks that they always hover right next to the chick and its super obvious as there is so much empty space but they chose that 1 spot. After a few minutes I go to the bathroom and when I get back there's 3 dudes trying to order and 2 of them are all up hovering near the chick. There's this one guy awkwardly by my seat and I start getting annoyed because I'm in a corner so that's a bad place for him to try and get the bartenders attention. The dickhead then sits next to me and I assume he did that because he wanted to sit next to the chick but there was also an empty seat to her right so I was annoyed that he didn't sit there instead. I was hoping he would do like the other 2 dudes and order a pitcher of beer and walk to his table but this chode ordered food and stayed at the seat. It was still super early in the night so he just blocked future female traffic from deciding to sit next to me. I was going to stay there a little longer to wait until the crowd starts coming in but the dude killed my vibe so I decide to check out a new spot.

Saturday Bar 3:
I was skeptical about checking this bar out due to it being in an area with a reputation. When I drive there my suspicions were confirmed as I see its one of those boujee pretentious places. Almost all the parking spots are valet and there's a whole bunch of flashy cars, and everyone in there was super dressed up while I was super casually dressed so didn't bother going in as I hate those vibes.

Saturday Bar 4:
I almost skipped this bar because it was in a town I've never been to before that isn't as populated and it is also quite far. I then realized that it was still kinda early so decided to go and feel out the vibes regardless. This was the best decision I ever made because this bar seems like the perfect spot and I hope this wasn't a fluky night. As I walk in I notice that all eyes were on me. I also see that the women to men ratio was like 5:1 and its also packed, dim, and quiet perfect vibes. I make my way to bar area which was full with only 2 seats available and literally there's only 2 guys at the bar and like 7 women. I see a hot 2 set eyeing TF outta me at the opposite side of the bar but too much AA and there's no seats near them. Its also kinda quiet so you can easily hear people's conversation even if they are a few seats down. At a point I was seated in the middle of a group conversation where people on my left were talking to people on my right and I felt like I could've jumped into the convo a few times but I chickened out. It felt like 90% of the people there knew each other because everyone was greeting one another except for that 2 set that was eyeing me as they were just there quietly and then a few of the people I saw making the line to order drinks. Definitely going back there next weekend but going a little earlier so I can relax a bit before the crowd starts coming in. I then was eager to see what the vibes were like at the karaoke spot so after like an hour or so I dipped and head there.

Saturday Bar 5:
It starts drizzling as I am driving to the karaoke bar but I don't let that stop me. By the time I get there its emptier than I expected and there's not that many women. I notice some dude talking to a 2 set and they look disinterested but I can't tell if their cute since they are far. I act like I'm going to the bathroom just so I can get a closer look and I can feel one of them looking at me as I walk by. By the time I walk back and sit by the bar shes eyeing TF outta me, never been eyed at this obviously before so I'm assuming she must be quite tipsy. Both those chicks were unattractive and they were like the only chicks there so I sat for 5 minutes did another scan of the room and then dipped. I am assuming that the crowd was bad due to weather or maybe women go to the city on Saturday's so will have to see whats up.

TLDR Important Takeaways:
What I learned:
  • The karaoke warm up spot is more lit than the actual sarging spots so I am swapping them.
  • Don't be closed minded about less popular towns. The best bar I have been to so far was in location I never would expect.
  • Going out early means that you can pivot. Was able to check out 5 bars on Saturday on a night with bad weather.
The good:
  • Absolutely nothing. I am super disappointed at myself and grade myself a big fat F for this week. Unacceptable!
What I need to work on:
  • Severe AA I need to stop being a bitch.
Random Observations:
  • I attract more attention than I originally thought. Got a ridiculous amount of girls checking me out this week.
 

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This weekend was long because of Veterans Day so decided to throw in some day game. Just getting home from the sarge at a mall.

Week 5:
Dayummmm!! 5 weeks have past already since I started this night game journey they going by so quick. I feel like I just started yesterday. The weather was horrendous on Friday so I stayed in. Will start this report with Saturday. My goal this week was scout venues and feel out the vibes so I wasn't too focused on doing approaches. Got to see how the movement is like in most places so now I only have 1 more area left to scout.

Saturday Bar 1:
Warm up location. Thankfully the chicks car wasn't in the lot so I was able to go inside. Complete sausage fest but I did notice that one of the bartenders has a gigantic ass and I want her bad lol, haven't seen such a huge perfectly shaped ass in a while. Anyone have tips on gaming bartenders pass em to me. She seems A LOT chiller and quieter than most bartenders I've come across. Also I noticed they were advertising TF out of the Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson fight for next Friday. This fight starts at 8 pm which is a lot earlier than normal boxing fights which start at 11ish so keeping this in the top of my head so that I can get ready quickly and head out to warm up at earlier time than normal for Friday.

Saturday Bar 2:
This bar is walking distance from the bar I went to last week the one where there was a million chicks inside. It has an awesome layout as the bar area is right by the entrance. As soon as I walk in to my right there's a 3 set of boujee looking milfs who look early 40s and all 3 of them can get it. There's also a mixed group of 4 young people next to them where 2 of them are standing up but no attractive women in that group. There was 1 seat between the groups so I tapped one of the milfs and asked if the seat was taken and she politely said no so I took the seat. I scout around and look toward the middle of the bar and I see a 3 set with 2 chicks and 1 dude and one of the chicks was eyeing me hard but both chicks in that set were very unattractive. Like 15 mins later I notice a milf walk in and she immediately walks to the milfs 3 set on my right and greets them. I never seen such a group of milfs where all of them looked this good. Then as I am about to walk out I get distracted by 2 girls who run right by me to a couch in the corner of the venue that I didn't realize was there. I like this bar more than the one from last week because the bar area is a lot bigger, the ambiance is more lively, and because its "normal" to just stand around. I regret not opening the milf set as they were seated right next to me as I think their boujeeness intimidated me.

Saturday Bar 3:
This was a looong drive. I couldn't find parking for this place and someone took the last spot as I was pulling in to one of the nearby streets. It looked crowded in there but the people I saw walking in seemed kinda gothic so not sure if that would be my vibes but willing to try it out anyways. Might be a good spot to go to early for warm ups when there should still be parking available.

Saturday Bar 4:
I was super hype to go here because its one of the only bars with barely any tables so I assumed the bar area would be lit. Boy was I wrong and it was a complete sausage fest so I literally used the bathroom then walked right out. The good thing is that as I was driving to this location I noticed that there was a lot of movement in the area. There was a line with a lot of sexy women at one of the places but the windows are tinted so I couldn't tell what was inside. Once I got home I looked it up and its a wine bar but why is everyone so dressed up and why is there a line to get in there, I would have assumed it was a club. I wasn't dressed up so didn't even try to get in.

I was going to walk around a bit but it started to drizzle so I had to run to my car. As I was driving home I did notice like 2 places that caught my attention in the same area. The good thing is that its a walkable area so will take a note of that and plan a big sarge there soon. I decided to drive to karaoke spot since its 30 mins away and assumed the rain would stop by then but by the time I got there it was empty AF so called it a night.

Sunday Return to Daygame:
Was home bored AF so decided hey let me hit up the mall. I had the indirect opener in mind that I always use asking if they know where X place is inside the mall. I notice this cute chick like 25 ft on front of me walking to my direction so I mentally start preparing to open. Once she took a few more steps she caught me checking her out so I started laughing and couldn't open her as it threw me off.

Girl 1: I got the same annoying issue I always get when opening a set walking toward my direction. I start opening them once their about 10 ft on front of me and they go out of their way to avoid eye contact even though I am clearly talking to them and my voice is projecting loud. They don't acknowledge me until they've walked 5 ft behind me and then their like sorry I don't know were X place is. Gonna have to wait til they walk past, then do a u-turn, then once i'm slightly on front of them open over the shoulder.

Girl 2: As soon as I made eye contact with her she looked at me and started smiling. At first impressions I thought she was asian because she looked like she was from Philippines or something. As soon as I start talking to her she stops walking but when I finish my opener she's just standing there smiling waving "No" with her head. I'm confused so I repeat the opener and shes like "No entiendo" so in my head I'm like oh shit shes latina and I suddenly forget how to speak Spanish and fumble when trying to translate the opener to Spanish. She says that shes new here and is her first time in the mall but I couldn't mentally translate the material I had ready to stack forward to in Spanish on the fly so I just said ok thank you and dipped.

The mall is circular and I caught these 2 chicks doing the first lap around the mall. After the first lap the busy crowd start pouring in so it was pure groups coming in and no lone wolves. Did 3 more laps but there was no approachable women so I dipped. I also came in the mall today for Veterans Day and I didn't expect so many people to be off from work. I got to the mall too late and it was already crowded. I only spotted 2 chicks today but ironically it was when we were super close to the map. This stopped me from opening because I know they would just deflect me to the map so I need to have a different opener ready when I am near one of the mall maps. Indirect direction openers aren't good to do next to maps.

TLDR Important Takeaways:
What I learned:
  • I have like no AA for day game. I think why its so hard approaching in night game is because its groups and there are no lone wolves.
  • The focused bar areas are so far apart here. It's too time consuming driving from 1 area to another so its best to just focus on 1 area per night. Now that I have a better picture of where the good spots are at I can make better use of my time and not waste so much of it driving.
The good:
  • The 2 best bars I've been to are a 3 minute walk from one another. That's going to be my go-to area for Chapter 1 until I get good at opening and hooking.
What I need to work on:
  • Practice my openers and transition material in Spanish in case I bump into a sexy latina again at the mall who doesn't speak any English.
  • Have a 2nd and maybe even a 3rd opener ready for the mall. Direction openers aren't good idea to do when right by the map.
Random Observations:
  • Women are so addicted to their phones. Most of the chicks at the mall were glued to their phone.
  • At the mall, short chicks are annoying because from far they look like kids so by the time u are close enough to realize their grown its too late to open them correctly.
Questions:
  1. How to game bartenders? I need me some of that big booty bartender in my life.
  2. Do you have to do anything different when gaming boujee milfs?
 

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This weekend was long because of Veterans Day so decided to throw in some day game. Just getting home from the sarge at a mall.

Week 5:
Dayummmm!! 5 weeks have past already since I started this night game journey they going by so quick. I feel like I just started yesterday. The weather was horrendous on Friday so I stayed in. Will start this report with Saturday. My goal this week was scout venues and feel out the vibes so I wasn't too focused on doing approaches. Got to see how the movement is like in most places so now I only have 1 more area left to scout.

Saturday Bar 1:
Warm up location. Thankfully the chicks car wasn't in the lot so I was able to go inside. Complete sausage fest but I did notice that one of the bartenders has a gigantic ass and I want her bad lol, haven't seen such a huge perfectly shaped ass in a while. Anyone have tips on gaming bartenders pass em to me. She seems A LOT chiller and quieter than most bartenders I've come across. Also I noticed they were advertising TF out of the Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson fight for next Friday. This fight starts at 8 pm which is a lot earlier than normal boxing fights which start at 11ish so keeping this in the top of my head so that I can get ready quickly and head out to warm up at earlier time than normal for Friday.

Saturday Bar 2:
This bar is walking distance from the bar I went to last week the one where there was a million chicks inside. It has an awesome layout as the bar area is right by the entrance. As soon as I walk in to my right there's a 3 set of boujee looking milfs who look early 40s and all 3 of them can get it. There's also a mixed group of 4 young people next to them where 2 of them are standing up but no attractive women in that group. There was 1 seat between the groups so I tapped one of the milfs and asked if the seat was taken and she politely said no so I took the seat. I scout around and look toward the middle of the bar and I see a 3 set with 2 chicks and 1 dude and one of the chicks was eyeing me hard but both chicks in that set were very unattractive. Like 15 mins later I notice a milf walk in and she immediately walks to the milfs 3 set on my right and greets them. I never seen such a group of milfs where all of them looked this good. Then as I am about to walk out I get distracted by 2 girls who run right by me to a couch in the corner of the venue that I didn't realize was there. I like this bar more than the one from last week because the bar area is a lot bigger, the ambiance is more lively, and because its "normal" to just stand around. I regret not opening the milf set as they were seated right next to me as I think their boujeeness intimidated me.

Saturday Bar 3:
This was a looong drive. I couldn't find parking for this place and someone took the last spot as I was pulling in to one of the nearby streets. It looked crowded in there but the people I saw walking in seemed kinda gothic so not sure if that would be my vibes but willing to try it out anyways. Might be a good spot to go to early for warm ups when there should still be parking available.

Saturday Bar 4:
I was super hype to go here because its one of the only bars with barely any tables so I assumed the bar area would be lit. Boy was I wrong and it was a complete sausage fest so I literally used the bathroom then walked right out. The good thing is that as I was driving to this location I noticed that there was a lot of movement in the area. There was a line with a lot of sexy women at one of the places but the windows are tinted so I couldn't tell what was inside. Once I got home I looked it up and its a wine bar but why is everyone so dressed up and why is there a line to get in there, I would have assumed it was a club. I wasn't dressed up so didn't even try to get in.

I was going to walk around a bit but it started to drizzle so I had to run to my car. As I was driving home I did notice like 2 places that caught my attention in the same area. The good thing is that its a walkable area so will take a note of that and plan a big sarge there soon. I decided to drive to karaoke spot since its 30 mins away and assumed the rain would stop by then but by the time I got there it was empty AF so called it a night.

Sunday Return to Daygame:
Was home bored AF so decided hey let me hit up the mall. I had the indirect opener in mind that I always use asking if they know where X place is inside the mall. I notice this cute chick like 25 ft on front of me walking to my direction so I mentally start preparing to open. Once she took a few more steps she caught me checking her out so I started laughing and couldn't open her as it threw me off.

Girl 1: I got the same annoying issue I always get when opening a set walking toward my direction. I start opening them once their about 10 ft on front of me and they go out of their way to avoid eye contact even though I am clearly talking to them and my voice is projecting loud. They don't acknowledge me until they've walked 5 ft behind me and then their like sorry I don't know were X place is. Gonna have to wait til they walk past, then do a u-turn, then once i'm slightly on front of them open over the shoulder.

Girl 2: As soon as I made eye contact with her she looked at me and started smiling. At first impressions I thought she was asian because she looked like she was from Philippines or something. As soon as I start talking to her she stops walking but when I finish my opener she's just standing there smiling waving "No" with her head. I'm confused so I repeat the opener and shes like "No entiendo" so in my head I'm like oh shit shes latina and I suddenly forget how to speak Spanish and fumble when trying to translate the opener to Spanish. She says that shes new here and is her first time in the mall but I couldn't mentally translate the material I had ready to stack forward to in Spanish on the fly so I just said ok thank you and dipped.

The mall is circular and I caught these 2 chicks doing the first lap around the mall. After the first lap the busy crowd start pouring in so it was pure groups coming in and no lone wolves. Did 3 more laps but there was no approachable women so I dipped. I also came in the mall today for Veterans Day and I didn't expect so many people to be off from work. I got to the mall too late and it was already crowded. I only spotted 2 chicks today but ironically it was when we were super close to the map. This stopped me from opening because I know they would just deflect me to the map so I need to have a different opener ready when I am near one of the mall maps. Indirect direction openers aren't good to do next to maps.

TLDR Important Takeaways:
What I learned:
  • I have like no AA for day game. I think why its so hard approaching in night game is because its groups and there are no lone wolves.
  • The focused bar areas are so far apart here. It's too time consuming driving from 1 area to another so its best to just focus on 1 area per night. Now that I have a better picture of where the good spots are at I can make better use of my time and not waste so much of it driving.
The good:
  • The 2 best bars I've been to are a 3 minute walk from one another. That's going to be my go-to area for Chapter 1 until I get good at opening and hooking.
What I need to work on:
  • Practice my openers and transition material in Spanish in case I bump into a sexy latina again at the mall who doesn't speak any English.
  • Have a 2nd and maybe even a 3rd opener ready for the mall. Direction openers aren't good idea to do when right by the map.
Random Observations:
  • Women are so addicted to their phones. Most of the chicks at the mall were glued to their phone.
  • At the mall, short chicks are annoying because from far they look like kids so by the time u are close enough to realize their grown its too late to open them correctly.
Questions:
  1. How to game bartenders? I need me some of that big booty bartender in my life.
  2. Do you have to do anything different when gaming boujee milfs?
- yes the reason is better to get rid of aa during day game, is cause it will be harder to do in night game... in nightgame you are mostly dealing with sets vs single wolves as you can see in day game.... You can ease by opening girls when they break groups if you want to ease into it... or be in the bar area and engage in convo... that is a bit easier for now...

- As i been saying night game is inconsistent (meaning some nights women don't come out and is sausage fests), you need to keep going to multiple venues to get around that, but a night is a night, usually if some places are sausage fests in one area will translate to most venues in same area on that particular night.. you may have to bounce to total different area...

- Bartenders are what we call higher guns, higher guns are gamed similar to gaming strippers....

- Milfs guide and @POB wrote this one
 

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This week was another outlier week. Last week was mostly due to weather but this week I learned that a lot of places are COMPLETELY DEAD whenever there are fights. Unfortunately there were fights on back to back nights, Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson on Friday and UFC Jon Jones vs Miocic on Saturday. This is going to be a long entry so skip to TLDR for highlights.

Week 6:

Friday was super uneventful but Saturday was better. My game plan this weekend was to just stick to one area and not have to drive 30+ mins to bar hop. This was a good game plan and I will continue doing this.

Friday Bar 1:

This is the warm up location. So last weekend they were advertising TF out of the Mike Tyson fight so I pulled up early. I'm assuming people pulled up right after work because it was already packed and over capacity by the time I got there so they weren't letting people in. I waited on line for like 10 mins until a few people left and they let us go in. That bar is so horrible for solo gaming when its crowded because the bar area is tiny and its awkward standing around. Did a quick scout of the bar area to see if there's any seats available but there weren't so I immediately left.

Friday Bar 2:
I pull up to the bar from last week that had the milfs set but it was empty AF. It was so empty that half of the seats on the bar weren't even placed properly, they had em up sorta like when restaurants are getting ready to close how they put the chairs on top of the tables or what not. I did a quick lap and then left immediately. The mistake I made was not going to the bar that's 3 minutes down from there. I saw a big group of old people like 60+ walking in which deterred me from going inside as I assumed it was bingo night or something.

Friday Bar 3:
I drove around the area where one of the previous warm up bars were but it looked super dead. The frustration started getting to me so I tapped out and decided fuck sarging let me go to a spot to see if they have the Mike Tyson fight and I'm just going to watch the fight and chill. When I get there it was packed and there was only 1 seat available so I got lucky. Ironically most people weren't paying attention to the fight as they were all focused on the karaoke section. The dude next to me started talking to me and hes the funnest person I've spoken to since I started going out, a little older but super cool dude. After a few minutes I notice some chick sitting on the other side of the bar my perfect type and few seconds later 2 chicks join her they are being super loud and high energy so I'm guessing they were drunk. I regret not getting up to approach that set just because that one chick was sexy AF. I have too much AA especially for high energy groups that are being loud singing along with karaoke.

Like 30 mins later as I'm in convo with the dude, I notice some chick walk in and shes kinda lurking behind us so I discreetly take a peek to see how she looks. Shes older and not my type but shes fuckable but then I notice that shes with a dude. I assumed they were standing there to try and order drinks but like 5 minutes passed and they didn't make any effort to order anything. At some point the big group that was next to my boy leave so the chick that was lurking sits next to him and pulls him away from our convo to open him. This was weird AF because she just ignores the dude she came with and starts chatting up my boy. I didn't wanna cock block so I just start watching the fight (the 2 girls who were boxing, at this point the Mike Tyson hasn't started yet). At first I thought she was just trying to open him as a way to get to me (the seat next to me was occupied so she couldn't sit next to me) so after 5 minutes I get up to use the bathroom just to see how she reacts as I have to walk past her to get to bathroom. Immediately as I start getting up she starts flicking her hair vigorously almost as if she was in a head and shoulders commercial but she doesn't look my way or acknowledge me. Same thing happens on the way back as I walk past her to sit down, not sure how to interpret that. Anyways shes talking her ear off to my boy so I just let him cook and then the Netflix stream for the fight keeps fucking up so I get ready to dip so I can catch the fight at home. As soon as I interrupt them to let my boy know I'm about to leave she does that head and shoulders hair flick again, he tells me hes leaving soon too so I guess he didn't want problems with the guy she came with. She didn't acknowledge the dude she came with AT ALL for 30 + mins I feel sorry for him. Anyways I dip and luckily I made it home quick enough to watch half of the fight. I'm still confused as to wtf all that vigorous hair flicking meant as she wasn't doing any of that while talking to my boy, only when I would get up, sit down, or walk past her but she didn't look my way or acknowledge me though.

Saturday Daygame:
Overslept so just missed the small window where its good to do approaches. It was too crowded, but being honest there was about 1 or 2 sets I could have opened but I just noticed them at bad timing and was too lazy to chase em down.

Saturday Bar 1:
The warm up location I got there early. It wasn't PACKED like Friday but there was wayyyy more cars in the parking lot than is normal for such early warm up hours so I didn't bother going in. Instead I decided to give another shot to the "milf" spot that was dead on Friday. Once I walk in its not as dead as it was Friday but it was quite slow, so I decided to just chill for a few to see if the crowd would slowly pick up. I chilled for quite a while but only saw a few ugs walking in and a few people walking out so decided to leave as it was still quite slow. Starting heading to the bar that's a 3 mins walk away (the bar from week 4 which was flooded with women).

Saturday Bar 2:
As I am outside getting close to the bar I think to myself "Why is the music so loud? I remember it being quiet AF last time I was here". I walk in expecting to see a lot of chicks but its literally ALL DUDES by the bar area not one woman in sight. Then I notice that there is an upstairs and the music seems to be coming from a live band up there. I didn't notice they had a 2nd floor on the first time I came here. I make my way up the steps. They also have a bar on the 2nd floor and its even bigger and HOLY CRAP there was so many women there, I can't lie that caught me by surprise and I was a bit startled. The bad thing is that there was no seats available. I spotted 2 chicks who were my perfect type but it being my first time in an environment with a live band I didn't feel comfortable and had no seats to chill so I ordered a drink and went downstairs. I saw a 2 set walking in so I opened them but I wasn't attracted to them so I didn't even try to prolong the interaction. The bartender told me that when there's live bands the crowd comes in a lot earlier so he suggested to look at the event calendar to know when bands are coming. This is PERFECT for warm up if I get there early enough to snag a seat. So far this bar is 2/2 and hasn't missed.

Saturday Bar 3:
Like Friday, I drive around the area where a previous warm up bar was and the whole area is dead. Decided to go to the karaoke bar again and this night it was a little more interesting. I got there just as they finished setting up the karaoke so it wasn't as busy, still a handful of seats available. After like 10 minutes of chilling some chick comes in by herself and sits next to me. I immediately found this suspicious because there was a lot of seats available. After like 30 seconds I did situational opener it wen't well and I was able to prolong the opener but I didn't know where to take it. Its like I was expecting her to be a little more chatty and give me something to work with but she wasn't in a chatty mode as she had a very serious demeanor. Her bf/date walks in like a minute after we had stopped talking so I mind my business. I also noticed a chad sit on the stool 3 down from me, he looked like a cross between a younger Tom Hardy and Hugh Jackman. Like 10 minutes later another chick walks in alone and I overhear her asking the chad if the seat next to him is available and he says no so she sits. Shes seated 2 stools down from me with one empty stool between us. I assumed she was waiting on a friend or something as I never seen a lone wolf come into that bar but she just sat there by herself and she was super focused on her phone, she didn't bother looking around or peeking to look at karaoke area when rowdy stuff was happening. The music was super loud so I would have to stand up and walk over if I wanted to open her so I didn't bother. But i did notice 2 things that stood out to me, when I got up to go to the bathroom she started flicking her hair. As I went to sit back down she started hair flicking again (it was subtle and nowhere near as vigorous as the head and shoulders chick from Friday). As I was sitting down the chick next to me looked over at me smiling and was like "Oh snap I wasn't sure if you had left". Before going to the bathroom I thought about asking her to hold my seat but I didn't feel like I talked/vibed with her long enough to warrant that compliance ask. It starts to get crowded but no cuties were coming in so I dipped to check out a new spot nearby.

Saturday Bar 4:
On the drive to the last bar I saw a lot of movement at a bar nearby and thought about going in but I've been there before on a date and it has too much of a restaurant vibe so I didn't go in. As I walk into my target bar, its empty AF only 4 people there. I overhear someone mention how its always super quiet on nights when there's a UFC or boxing fight. Decided to call it a night.

Sunday Daygame:
My goal here was to approach almost any decent looking chick even if she wasn't fuckable as I'm trying to test out some nuances for my mall openers. I noticed that the mall I like going to opens an hour after another mall that I had to stop going to so I decided to go there first just to see whats up. I stopped going there because there's always a bunch of ghetto panhandlers trying to sell cd's or some weird shit that I always ignore. Anyways the mall had just opened so I have an hour to sarge here before the main one opens. I snipe a chick way ahead of me and I'm trying to speed walk to catch up to her, but then people get in the way and there's no space to approach her. Just as the people get out of the way and I almost catch up she walks into a store and I'm like arghhhhh!!. I didn't get to see her face but that body was super on point.

A few minutes later I see some chick turn the corner and walk towards my direction so I open asking if she knows where X place is. She says yes and then it looks like shes about to walk away but then shes like come with me I'm actually walking in that direction so I went with her. That threw me off as I was expecting people to kinda give me directions like go left then go right etc so wasn't prepared for chicks to actually walk me there :ROFLMAO:. I wasn't attracted to her at all but shot the shit anyway and noticed after 5 minutes I finally got her to smile and laugh because she was super serious at first. I forgot to ask where she was going because she was speed walking so I'm just assuming she worked somewhere at the mall and her shift almost starting.

Then I spot some chick way ahead of me again, cant see her face but body looking right so I'm starting to speed walk. Again she walks into a store as I am starting to catch up so im like arghhhhh!! Shortly after I have to dodge like 4 ghetto panhandlers, it has gotten a lot worse since last time I was there. The last dude was extremely annoying almost swung at him, they will follow you like 5 stores down even when you are clearly ignoring them. It seems they only target people who aren't white as there are always like 3-4 white people walking ahead of me and they never get approached. Keep in mind I don't make eye contact or acknowledge these panhandlers. Its almost time for the main mall to open so I dip.

Sunday Daygame Main Mall:
Bam!! as soon as I walk in the mall there's a chick walking out so I open her. She never fully stopped to give me her full attention she just said yeah just go straight then make a right and she immediately dips. Then a few minutes later I see some chick from far but can't see her face well but I get ready to open. One of those chicks you can tell goes to the gym like 5 times a week, awesome body. As soon as I open her she lights up as if I were a friend she hasn't seen in years or something. I'm guessing she must've just gotten some D that morning as she was in great emotional state. She was a lot older than I expected so I kinda lost motivation when I got a close look. After I open asking where's x place shes like ohh im actually walking in that direction let me walk you. That shit threw me off again :ROFLMAO:. She was super green as I was making small talk about the mall and she was super smiley and was giving me dog poppy eyes but I didn't know how to throw in the material I had prepared to stack forward to because the"walking with them" kinda fucks it up. Going to have to prepare something for this situations. I didn't want to walk with her too long in case I see another target so I was like "ah I see X place now" and thanked her and excused myself then chilled at the mall like another 30-45 mins but there were no approachable chicks and it started getting too crowded so I dipped.

TLDR Important Takeaways:
What I learned:
  • Fight nights = bad for going out. Most places are dead and the ones that are busy tend to be sausage fests.
  • Might want to check out places that have live bands. Will research this.
The good:
  • Night game: This week I opened the most sets I have of any week and prolonged the opener on each one so that's excellent progress.
  • Mall opener seems to be working better but the sample size is too small. I'm assuming you need to talk obnoxiously loud to get their attention as most of them are oblivious to their surroundings and walk like their day dreaming.
What I need to work on:
  • I still need to put in way more volume.
  • Have a REALLY hard time pushing interactions with chicks I'm not attracted to, but I REALLY need this practice so I have to push myself.
  • Transitioning off the opener and stacking forward.
  • Need to plow more with chicks who are receptive but very quiet/serious. It takes longer to get them to smile/laugh and to get them to participate in convo. Encountered 2 chicks like that this week and they both ended up being quite friendly once they got into talkative mood.
  • Have material prepared for chicks who want to walk you when using the directions opener.
Random Observations:
  • For the karaoke spot, all the attractive chicks are always in mixed groups and their always high energy and singing.
  • I probably mentioned this before but its so infuriating how 80% of the lone wolves walking around in the mall are on their phone. This weekend reminded me why I quit doing day game as its too time consuming finding targets. Also the traffic driving back home was brutal.
  • Might want to keep a mental note of when a major sporting event occurs. People might not come out as much for those too and not just fighting events.
Questions:
  • Am I reading too much into those hair flicks? Still trying to wrap my head around the head and shoulders chick if that meant anything.
  • Opening loud high energy groups who are singing, any tips?
 

KJ Francis

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. Immediately as I start getting up she starts flicking her hair vigorously almost as if she was in a head and shoulders commercial but she doesn't look my way or acknowledge me
Hahah she was imagining showering with you.

Tbh I think the hair approach invitations are because she is too shy to approach, right? It's the man's role. The more vigorous, the more she is trying to get you to do something. Even if she chatted up your friend, it was you who made her too nervous to even make eye contact.

The guy could have been her orbiter, friend, brother, etc. who just wanted to watch the fight. Mystery's line Skills also uses all the time is "how do you guys know each other". Mixed sets can be super lucrative because so many guys make the same assumption they are together. It really seems they were not a couple. I get not wanting to cockblock the friend you made though.


I posted a Swinggcat interview today. He says for AA, you need to address your ego. You are simply afraid of your ego getting bruised. Solutions are to go get rejected and get it out of the way, then you will likely feel more confident for the rest of the night after feeling it's not that bad.

Also tell yourself you were too much of a prison bitch to approach her. And third, estimate the percent chance it could go well and you end up fucking her. Even a small percent chance is totally worth whatever happens.

Today this girl beelined to me in the grocery store and almost ran in to me while literally licking her lips. I had to swerve to not collide. I was too much of a prison bitch to say anything.
 

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Tbh I think the hair approach invitations are because she is too shy to approach, right? It's the man's role. The more vigorous, the more she is trying to get you to do something. Even if she chatted up your friend, it was you who made her too nervous to even make eye contact.
I wouldn't consider that an AI as I feel it has to be more calculated like making eye contact, bumping into you or sitting next to you, but possibly it was an IOI. For the head and shoulders chick It couldn't be shyness because otherwise she wouldn't have approached the dude next to me. She was also talking A LOT super chatty. I couldn't hear anything they were talking about but the body language made it look like she was going on a long rant. My gut tells me that the situation with her was auto-rejection due to age difference, dude next to me looked about the same age as her so maybe she felt more comfortable.

I do think it was shyness with the lone-wolf though. While she was starting at her phone she was obviously scanning the room with her peripheral view otherwise she wouldn't have noticed me as I got up or as I sat down. The hair flicks kinda gave her away. When you are genuinely looking at ur phone you completely lose all sense of ur surroundings.
The guy could have been her orbiter, friend, brother, etc. who just wanted to watch the fight. Mystery's line Skills also uses all the time is "how do you guys know each other". Mixed sets can be super lucrative because so many guys make the same assumption they are together. It really seems they were not a couple. I get not wanting to cockblock the friend you made though.
I was curious about this and wanted to ask my boy some questions but they were too wrapped up in the convo so I didn't want to cock block. If there was a lull in their convo I would've asked him if the dude is her bf. I was also curious about what they were talking about because the energy she had when opening him felt like she had something very urgent to say as she literally physically yanked him away from our convo. There was no sexual or playful energy in their conversation and she just looked like she was worried/distressed the whole time. I hope I bump into him again so I can ask.
I posted a Swinggcat interview today. He says for AA, you need to address your ego. You are simply afraid of your ego getting bruised. Solutions are to go get rejected and get it out of the way, then you will likely feel more confident for the rest of the night after feeling it's not that bad.
That doesn't work for me, trying to out think or out rationalizing out of my AA just makes it worse. So far the thing that works best for me is shutting my brain up and just going for it. Well at least in day game that has been working.
Today this girl beelined to me in the grocery store and almost ran in to me while literally licking her lips. I had to swerve to not collide. I was too much of a prison bitch to say anything.
:ROFLMAO:
 
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