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Literally just about 10 months ago, I used to wonder, "What do I do with girls? How do I talk to girls? What am I supposed to talk to them about?" I looked to my friends, Google, Yahoo Answers, and YouTube for answers, and what I usually got were stuff along the lines of "just talk to her", "just go say hi", or "just say something" (until I stumbled upon GC in August). Although I am still very much a newbie, those advice pretty much sums it up when I ask myself those questions now. The main GC site is a gold mine for the "theory" aspect of game, and the reports section of the GC boards is an amazing place to find the "practice" aspect of game. What I'm trying to achieve with this post is a mixture of theory and practice. Just feeling like giving back to GC and helping out my fellow newbies by providing some concrete examples to hopefully help visualize and understand better the advice: "just say something".
So school just started today, and as I sat in class, walked around campus, and worked (I work at the campus computer store) I noticed that there are virtually zero stranger-to-stranger interactions taking place. Sometimes I would notice guys stealing glances at attractive girls, or maybe a frat boy would yell and punch his bro in the arm (just be obnoxious in general) in an attempt to get the attention of a nearby hottie. However, the chances that an attractive girl will approach the shy guy or a group of rowdy frat boys is slim to none. We have to be the leaders and take charge. Personally, I had a few opportunities to open girls today, but I initially couldn't get myself to do it because I couldn't think of what to say. I often over think and end up psyching myself out because I want the perfect opener, the perfect conversation, and the perfect number or instant date or sex close.
Then I remembered my meeting with a fellow GC member, huttlion. We met up in person a few days ago and had some nice conversation while I ate. As I was returning to our table after paying for the tab at the cash register, I saw him talking to the girl who was sitting alone at the table adjacent to ours. After a quick banter, we left the restaurant and I asked him how he opened her. His response? "I just said 'what's up?'" As simple as that.
Scenario 1:
So while I was at work behind the cash register today, a very tall and attractive blonde girl came up to purchase earphones or something. She was 6'3" with a HOT body that was covered in a tight tank top and volleyball shorts. She also had an attractive face, but her expression was very neutral...almost cold. I decided to try for small talk as I rang her up. No "perfect" opener nonsense--just a simple small talk. What was the worst that can happen? One-word responses? Maybe. No response? Maybe. Would I look like an idiot in front of my coworker? LAWL, the devil may care. He sure as shit wasn't gonna talk to her. I was planning on asking her how tall she was and if she played any sports, but then she took off her backpack to get her wallet from inside, and I read "TRACK AND FIELD" (our athletes have these official school backpacks that have the name of the sport and stuff on them).
So now it seemed stupid to ask what I originally planned to ask. So instead...
Me: Hey, what event do you run in track? (Pointed to her backpack with my chin)
Her: Huh? Uh...I do the high jump (Still neutral face)
Me: Cool (I did NOT fake excitement). What's your PR?
That was my attempt at relating. PR stands for personal record. I've also ran track in high school, so yeah.
Her: Umm...Five, five-ten, five-eleven.
Now, when someone asks me what my PR is for the mile, I almost automatically reply "5:09". A PR is something that you're proud of and something that sticks in your mind. But she stumbled a little. And guess what? She was BLUSHING. Yes. I used to be intimidated by blonde girls (especially the hot ones and those bigger than me) because I had them up on a pedestal, but there it was. Me, a 5'7" Korean dude, making a 6'3" blonde track hottie, who could jump more than my height, BLUSH. I then handed back her credit/debit card, she wished me a good day, I wished her a great day and a great season, then she left.
Scenario 2:
Later, a punk/goth/emo girl came to my work with a messed up laptop to drop it off for repairs. She wasn't my type but good-looking nonetheless, and she actually opened me.
Her: Okay, this is really weird, but you actually look a lot like my boyfriend.
I was a little startled and also in the middle of filling out the check-in sheet, so I didn't catch what she said next. I heard something about a twin.
Me: Haha really? That's weird because I actually have a twin brother.
Her: Oh my god, really? That's crazy!
Me: Haha, nah I'm just kidding.
Her: Oh, you, ugh. I thought you really did!
Me: Hahaha. (2 second pause--I was telling myself "fuck it, just say it") I don't know, maybe I am your boyfriend and I'm secretly working without you knowing for some money on the side. Maybe I'll get you a surprise gift.
Her: Hahaha shut up!
Her responses weren't those exact words, but they were something similar. I can't remember clearly because I was having a bit of an adrenaline rush, and I actually don't even know if the words came out of my mouth clearly. For sure we were both enjoying ourselves though. After working on the check-in sheet a little more in silence,
Me: So your boyfriend is Korean?
Her: Yeah! Well, he's mixed Korean and Vietnamese.
Me: No way! I'm half Vietnamese!
Her: Really?! I thought you looked somewhat Viet...like your eyes.
Me: Hahah, nah, I'm still fucking with you.
Her: Oh my god! Stop! I'm like sarcastic and stuff too! But like... Don't like... I'm easily you know...
She said some stuff and explained herself somehow, but I don't remember. She was basically trying to say she is gullible. Afterwards, I took care of the rest of the transaction, and she left.
Breaking down "just say something":
Okay, don't take the "just say something" literally and go up to a random girl and be like "I drank juice". Be observant and make sure to talk/ask about her. Does she look athletic? Ask if she does any sports and maybe how long she has been doing it. Ask her to describe to you the ideal body that she's trying to get to if she's just working out with no sports affiliation. Is she walking a dog? Ask her about the dog. Ask her what her dog's personality is like. Is it docile or is it clever and somehow finds ways to break out and wander the streets? Maybe relate it to your or your friend's dog that likes to do this or that.
It's okay if you can't open a certain girl. Just let her pass. There will be plenty of other girls who will either give you approach invitations or have something for you to talk/ask about. It's okay if you ask too many interviewy questions. It's okay if you don't apply frames. You don't even have to aim for a number/sex close. Just have the randomest or the boringest conversation. Hell, you could even just smile and tell her "good morning". You'd be surprised to see even that could make her smile. When you're a newbie like me, just have any kind of an interaction. Anything will build you up and help you improve. huttlion also talked to me about how life is boring for a lot of people. Many girls will be very glad that you came up to them and said anything at all.
Peace out
So school just started today, and as I sat in class, walked around campus, and worked (I work at the campus computer store) I noticed that there are virtually zero stranger-to-stranger interactions taking place. Sometimes I would notice guys stealing glances at attractive girls, or maybe a frat boy would yell and punch his bro in the arm (just be obnoxious in general) in an attempt to get the attention of a nearby hottie. However, the chances that an attractive girl will approach the shy guy or a group of rowdy frat boys is slim to none. We have to be the leaders and take charge. Personally, I had a few opportunities to open girls today, but I initially couldn't get myself to do it because I couldn't think of what to say. I often over think and end up psyching myself out because I want the perfect opener, the perfect conversation, and the perfect number or instant date or sex close.
Then I remembered my meeting with a fellow GC member, huttlion. We met up in person a few days ago and had some nice conversation while I ate. As I was returning to our table after paying for the tab at the cash register, I saw him talking to the girl who was sitting alone at the table adjacent to ours. After a quick banter, we left the restaurant and I asked him how he opened her. His response? "I just said 'what's up?'" As simple as that.
Scenario 1:
So while I was at work behind the cash register today, a very tall and attractive blonde girl came up to purchase earphones or something. She was 6'3" with a HOT body that was covered in a tight tank top and volleyball shorts. She also had an attractive face, but her expression was very neutral...almost cold. I decided to try for small talk as I rang her up. No "perfect" opener nonsense--just a simple small talk. What was the worst that can happen? One-word responses? Maybe. No response? Maybe. Would I look like an idiot in front of my coworker? LAWL, the devil may care. He sure as shit wasn't gonna talk to her. I was planning on asking her how tall she was and if she played any sports, but then she took off her backpack to get her wallet from inside, and I read "TRACK AND FIELD" (our athletes have these official school backpacks that have the name of the sport and stuff on them).
So now it seemed stupid to ask what I originally planned to ask. So instead...
Me: Hey, what event do you run in track? (Pointed to her backpack with my chin)
Her: Huh? Uh...I do the high jump (Still neutral face)
Me: Cool (I did NOT fake excitement). What's your PR?
That was my attempt at relating. PR stands for personal record. I've also ran track in high school, so yeah.
Her: Umm...Five, five-ten, five-eleven.
Now, when someone asks me what my PR is for the mile, I almost automatically reply "5:09". A PR is something that you're proud of and something that sticks in your mind. But she stumbled a little. And guess what? She was BLUSHING. Yes. I used to be intimidated by blonde girls (especially the hot ones and those bigger than me) because I had them up on a pedestal, but there it was. Me, a 5'7" Korean dude, making a 6'3" blonde track hottie, who could jump more than my height, BLUSH. I then handed back her credit/debit card, she wished me a good day, I wished her a great day and a great season, then she left.
Scenario 2:
Later, a punk/goth/emo girl came to my work with a messed up laptop to drop it off for repairs. She wasn't my type but good-looking nonetheless, and she actually opened me.
Her: Okay, this is really weird, but you actually look a lot like my boyfriend.
I was a little startled and also in the middle of filling out the check-in sheet, so I didn't catch what she said next. I heard something about a twin.
Me: Haha really? That's weird because I actually have a twin brother.
Her: Oh my god, really? That's crazy!
Me: Haha, nah I'm just kidding.
Her: Oh, you, ugh. I thought you really did!
Me: Hahaha. (2 second pause--I was telling myself "fuck it, just say it") I don't know, maybe I am your boyfriend and I'm secretly working without you knowing for some money on the side. Maybe I'll get you a surprise gift.
Her: Hahaha shut up!
Her responses weren't those exact words, but they were something similar. I can't remember clearly because I was having a bit of an adrenaline rush, and I actually don't even know if the words came out of my mouth clearly. For sure we were both enjoying ourselves though. After working on the check-in sheet a little more in silence,
Me: So your boyfriend is Korean?
Her: Yeah! Well, he's mixed Korean and Vietnamese.
Me: No way! I'm half Vietnamese!
Her: Really?! I thought you looked somewhat Viet...like your eyes.
Me: Hahah, nah, I'm still fucking with you.
Her: Oh my god! Stop! I'm like sarcastic and stuff too! But like... Don't like... I'm easily you know...
She said some stuff and explained herself somehow, but I don't remember. She was basically trying to say she is gullible. Afterwards, I took care of the rest of the transaction, and she left.
Breaking down "just say something":
Okay, don't take the "just say something" literally and go up to a random girl and be like "I drank juice". Be observant and make sure to talk/ask about her. Does she look athletic? Ask if she does any sports and maybe how long she has been doing it. Ask her to describe to you the ideal body that she's trying to get to if she's just working out with no sports affiliation. Is she walking a dog? Ask her about the dog. Ask her what her dog's personality is like. Is it docile or is it clever and somehow finds ways to break out and wander the streets? Maybe relate it to your or your friend's dog that likes to do this or that.
It's okay if you can't open a certain girl. Just let her pass. There will be plenty of other girls who will either give you approach invitations or have something for you to talk/ask about. It's okay if you ask too many interviewy questions. It's okay if you don't apply frames. You don't even have to aim for a number/sex close. Just have the randomest or the boringest conversation. Hell, you could even just smile and tell her "good morning". You'd be surprised to see even that could make her smile. When you're a newbie like me, just have any kind of an interaction. Anything will build you up and help you improve. huttlion also talked to me about how life is boring for a lot of people. Many girls will be very glad that you came up to them and said anything at all.
Peace out
