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spear_kin

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I'll go straight to the point. TLDR in bold.
I find it difficult to feel secure with my partner, unless she's noticeably supportive. I don't think there's an issue with that but I sense that I should be able to drag that sexual assertiveness from myself more than her.

I've been fixing my PE and it's been great (someone here recommended the sexual kung fu yt channel and it's done wonders), I've been enjoying sex to the fullest in some cases. But sometimes I get anxious, uncomfortable and unconfident, and even when I pull of a great performance, on the inside I can't fully enjoy and let go. I'll see this girl next weekend, and I want to focus on working on my mindset. Shit, IDC what's happening, I want to fight it and kill it. I'd like to hear some advice if anyone has any. Thanks.
(thoughts of shame, rejection, etc. yes, they're there)
 

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I'll go straight to the point. TLDR in bold.
I find it difficult to feel secure with my partner, unless she's noticeably supportive. I don't think there's an issue with that but I sense that I should be able to drag that sexual assertiveness from myself more than her.

I've been fixing my PE and it's been great (someone here recommended the sexual kung fu yt channel and it's done wonders), I've been enjoying sex to the fullest in some cases. But sometimes I get anxious, uncomfortable and unconfident, and even when I pull of a great performance, on the inside I can't fully enjoy and let go. I'll see this girl next weekend, and I want to focus on working on my mindset. Shit, IDC what's happening, I want to fight it and kill it. I'd like to hear some advice if anyone has any. Thanks.
(thoughts of shame, rejection, etc. yes, they're there)
Chase said somewhere (I don’t remember where now) to focus on giving the girl pleasure, on how you’re making her feel real time in bed, rather than on yourself.

Think less of yourself and more on how to make her feel good by any means.

Leaves no room for you to doubt yourself.

On the contrary, while you’re busy feeling insecure and self conscious, how do you think her body is feeling?
 

spear_kin

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Chase said somewhere (I don’t remember where now) to focus on giving the girl pleasure, on how you’re making her feel real time in bed, rather than on yourself.

Think less of yourself and more on how to make her feel good by any means.

Leaves no room for you to doubt yourself.

On the contrary, while you’re busy feeling insecure and self conscious, how do you think her body is feeling?
Hey man. That's usually how I tackle it. I make it my duty to give, and that's how I enjoy myself.
Maybe what I mean is exactly that, sometimes I'm way too worried about succeeding in that, and it's a bummer. Maybe because in this case it's a new girl.

I don't mean to be the focus of the show, what I want is to relax a little.
 

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Hey man. That's usually how I tackle it. I make it my duty to give, and that's how I enjoy myself.
Maybe what I mean is exactly that, sometimes I'm way too worried about succeeding in that, and it's a bummer. Maybe because in this case it's a new girl.

I don't mean to be the focus of the show, what I want is to relax a little.
in situations like that i’d just ask myself what the worst scenario is if i do a bad job of the sex. she never wants to see me again? fine that’s her prerogative, ill do better in the next one
 

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What helps me is apart from focusing on my own pleasure and her is, how much do I wanna retain her.

Also, retention does not depend on just good sex, so make up what you lack in sex departmemt with other stuff, like how you make her feel emotionally,that you get her etc... create an experience for her.

Lastly most guys are mediocre at sex at worst. So not something to really worry about.

Also, learn to enjoy your and her body.

Sex is psychological more than physical for women.
 

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@topcat, thanks for your input. I'll remember that.
@empath I make sure to give at least one orgasm per day. Say if we fuck twice in the day I'll give her at least one mandatory orgasm. This can't be done with every woman since they're different, but as a general rule. I actually try to cum less times than them.

But yes, my focus is to be with her, not only the physical. I love when being with women to spread sex throughout all our interactions and not just the sex itself. With this one the difficulty of engaging in that is like 5/10. It's hard to know what she actually likes from time to time so that makes me a little worried on the inside. There's other women that noticeably want to fuck you on the spot no matter where you are. This one varies.

I'd say that I do my best when I don't care that much about retaining her.
 

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I make sure to give at least one orgasm per day. Say if we fuck twice in the day I'll give her at least one mandatory orgasm. This can't be done with every woman since they're different, but as a general rule. I actually try to cum less times than them.
Same for me with regards to cuming less than her.

But no rule of one orgasm one day.

It's hard to know what she actually likes from time to time so that makes me a little worried on the inside. There's other women that noticeably want to fuck you on the spot no matter where you are. This one varies.

If this is your source of worry than just know every women is different and you will take time to figure out them. Also, a lot of less experienced women does not know what turns them on. So its experimentation.

You can never know for sure, you try and calibrate.

So I don't see why you should be worry about.

Try to communicate more, and she her reaction when you do different things to her body.

Also, she will understand too, these things take time. How much does she understand your body?

I'd say that I do my best when I don't care that much about retaining her.

Ehh, i guess... different folks, different strokes.
 

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When having sex, try to sync up your breath with hers.

This will force you to concentrate that, and that thing only - becoming less self conscious.
And also it will make the sex more immersive as you're more in tune with her - yourself - and the sex. I feel it heightens the sexual intensity too, somehow.

Mr Variety
 

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@MrVariety Tried that yesterday with another partner, it's actually great!
@empath I appreciate your input. Yeah I think I get anxious with this particular girl because I don't want to fuck up. I lose my confidence from time to time when it comes to this. I saw another girl yesterday, I feel more secure with and I behaved completely different.

I think the core issue is that I imagine some women not being that receptive to me being sexually aggressive and I'm just learning how to be ok with that part of myself. I didn't expect this post to go so deep lol
 

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@spear_kin,

You've got to be more selfish, man.

Male sexual performance is about objectifying the woman. The male arousal switch doesn't even work properly if you're empathizing too much with the girl during sex / trying to get in her head / worrying about what she is thinking, etc.


Your thoughts should be much less

"Ooh, I hope I do a good job, I hope she isn't dissatisfied, I hope she doesn't want to leave..."

... and much more

"Ha, this chick is my play toy. I did a pretty good job landing a body like this. Look at these tits! Fuck yeah. And I am inside that pussy. That's a beautiful face. She can't go anywhere now because I have her nailed down with my cock. I'm nailing that pussy like I'm hammering together a piece of furniture. Let's draw up and take a look at my cock going in that pussy. Oh yeah. Look at that. She's all about it. She can't get enough of this dick. Look at that hungry pussy desperately gobbling my dick up. Well she only gets as much as I feel like giving her. In fact I think I'll stop for a few seconds and let her quiver in anticipation."

Women want to be used by selfish men who are enjoying the woman's body.

Try reading a romance novel if you really want to understand female psychology.

She doesn't want a guy who's worrying like crazy about whether he can keep her.

She wants a guy who is enjoying her as his sexy fun plaything to use his dick on.

That's what you should be doing.

Chase
 
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The male arousal switch doesn't even work properly if you're empathizing too much with the girl during sex / trying to get in her head / worrying about what she is thinking, etc.
It's absolutely this. I only "feel it" when I can do this. And I worry when I think the woman won't be into it. My upbringing may have been blocking that in me.
"Ha, this chick is my play toy. I did a pretty good job landing a body like this. Look at these tits! Fuck yeah. And I am inside that pussy. That's a beautiful face. She can't go anywhere now because I have her nailed down with my cock. I'm nailing that pussy like I'm hammering together a piece of furniture. Let's draw up and take a look at my cock going in that pussy. Oh yeah. Look at that. She's all about it. She can't get enough of this dick. Look at that hungry pussy desperately gobbling my dick up. Well she only gets as much as I feel like giving her. In fact I think I'll stop for a few seconds and let her quiver in anticipation."
yeah I love to actually say that stuff to her.


Thanks @Chase ! What I'm really interested to learn is how to extract that from women, even those that "defend" against being put into that state. Or actually, how to get past this "they will shame me for it" mindset.
 
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@spear_kin,

It's absolutely this. I only "feel it" when I can do this. And I worry when I think the woman won't be into it.

Why would she be having sex with you if she isn't into it?

I mean, it happens. But there is always some other motivation if she is deciding "Well, I don't want dick, but I'll let him put his dick in me."

If it's the first time in bed and I suspect for whatever reason she isn't into it (like e.g. when you pull off a pure logistics pickup where the girl was never that interested in you or aroused, you just made the logistics happen and started escalating and she was like "Sure, what the hell!"), I let myself just enjoy that, like, "Ha, this girl's getting it even though she isn't feeling it. Time to plant my flag!" and just go hard and have a great time of it. Sometimes she gets into it, sometimes not.

There's a lot you can do with women mid-sex to arouse them. I don't know how good your sexual performance is. It's worth getting good at that stuff. Dan Rose's book The Sex God Method is a good guide to that. But it sounds like your main issue is psychological, so focusing on technique at this point might even be counterproductive (or maybe not? Maybe if you knew you were a Sex God, you wouldn't be so worried about women getting bored?).

If it's relationship sex and the girl isn't really into it, depends on my mood. If I'm really horny my brain will just say, "This pussy is so mine she's taking my dick even when she's not in the mood. I'm going hard on this dry pussy till it lubes up or the skin chafes!"

OTOH if I'm not that horny, and the girl is not into it, a lot of the time I'll just be annoyed with her for not being into it and will just stop and tell her, "Seems like you're not really into it right now."

The response is always the same: the girl will say, "Sorry, I just can't stop thinking about the argument with my friends / this problem at work / my sister in the hospital / etc."

Then you just say no worries, we can do this some other time when you're more focused.

Half the time that's all the girl needs to clear her mind and focus on the sex and pounce on you like a lioness. The other half the time you just adjourn then and there and save yourself from some bad, boring sex.

But the point it is you are always focused on YOUR enjoyment of the woman.

Either you are getting off on that you're fucking this pussy even if the girl isn't feeling it (conqueror mentality! Do you think conquering warriors worry that "Oh no, the nubile maiden I have seized from the village I conquered is not fully enjoying herself!"? Hell no! They just get off on that they're planting their flag in a nubile maiden from a village they conquered!)...

... or else if that's not the case you're like, "Eh, I don't want to fuck a girl who's not feeling it," and you pull out and cancel the sex.

It is never this thing of "Oh no I have to make her enjoy it!"

Assuming you are an even halfway decent lover, if she's not enjoying it, that's a "her" problem.

(I mean, don't be totally negligent of your technique / foreplay / etc., obviously, but you get the drift)

yeah I love to actually say that stuff to her.

That's good.

Though keep in mind: I am talking about your mentality, i.e., what is going on in your head.

Thanks @Chase ! What I'm really interested to learn is how to extract that from women, even those that "defend" against being put into that state. Or actually, how to get past this "they will shame me for it" mindset.

Don't say it to them.

Just think it.

No girl is going to shame you for conquering her pussy when she decides to spread her legs for you anyway and open up that dry pussy and you go hard on it anyway, jackhammering your way to her puckered cervix.

No girl is going to shame you for flipping her bored body around like a rag doll and having your way with her when she's the one who put herself there in front of you in the first place.

It is not a test, like, "Well I am not turned on but let's see if he does the PROPER MALE FEMINIST ALLY THING and declines sex with me because he recognizes my arousal level is only at 61%, not 97%," and then when you fail she goes and lectures you about, "For shame! You should know when a woman offers you her pussy if she isn't fully into it it is the male responsibility to decline the not-fully-interested pussy and uphold the woman's dignity and right to only fully-interested sex!"

She is going to respect you MORE for manhandling her when she's only semi-interested, and passionately tearing into her regardless her arousal level, using her like your sex toy, than she will if you are Mr. Nice Guy who's all, "Oh my. You seem not into it today. Is there anything I can do? How can I better serve you, milady?"

Women like powerful guys who go for what they want.

Or, who discard them if they can't get what they want from them (i.e., she's not into it, you are bored/annoyed, so you just stop thrusting and tell her, "Seems like you're not really into it," and when she confirms / doesn't immediately dive into it to seduce you and get you to keep going, you pull out and go do something better with your time).

Again, does not mean you are not a good lover, who is sensitive to her needs, turns her on properly, uses good technique, etc.

But it does take two to make love, and when a woman's head is not there, and you have done what you should on your end, that is HER party foul, not YOURS! You need to internalize this!

Chase
 

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What helps me is apart from focusing on my own pleasure and her is, how much do I wanna retain her.

Also, retention does not depend on just good sex, so make up what you lack in sex departmemt with other stuff, like how you make her feel emotionally,that you get her etc... create an experience for her.

Lastly most guys are mediocre at sex at worst. So not something to really worry about.

Also, learn to enjoy your and her body.

Sex is psychological more than physical for women.

If she’s the right type of girl, when she gets undressed, you can tell her you should have brought your paint brush
 

spear_kin

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Why would she be having sex with you if she isn't into it?
Not just the sex itself, but being made an object (also I confused "upbringing" with "uprising" in my post above). I wanted to say that it's challenging for me to express myself that assertively, although I'm actively working on it, and these experiences are a great way to.
No girl is going to shame you for flipping her bored body around like a rag doll and having your way with her when she's the one who put herself there in front of you in the first place.
Well some seem to want to be treated more softly, but I get the point. As you point out, it is psychological. It's like even then I think that "maybe this situation is not consented/wanted" or some shit alike-
The good side is that I know I will get over it. Thank you for reaching out and shining light on these things.

It is not a test, like, "Well I am not turned on but let's see if he does the PROPER MALE FEMINIST ALLY THING and declines sex with me because he recognizes my arousal level is only at 61%, not 97%," and then when you fail she goes and lectures you about, "For shame! You should know when a woman offers you her pussy if she isn't fully into it it is the male responsibility to decline the not-fully-interested pussy and uphold the woman's dignity and right to only fully-interested sex!"
Hey @Chase thanks, you understood the issue instantly. Yes it's probably something like this. I learned to be overly cautious and scared of being abusive. Luckily I started to flip the script and last week I could totally command this other girl around all day long, it was a blast!
I've just started to enjoy sex now that I can start tapping into that, how come no one teaches this kind of stuff? Fucking feminizing culture. And with the help of excercising I'm getting rid of PE so the sex's not only enjoyable but long.

As you said, I have to internalize this. It's not the same with every woman for me right now, but I'll learn. Thanks again!

I'll come again later to update.
 
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