Let's discuss this: LMR

[PrettyDecent]

So this one has been boggling in my head recently, and you can see it in this FR++ I wrote in my journal here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3911#p17610.

Basically, I'm seeing my dates following this general routine:

- She's excited to see me, lot's of compliance given
- Take her somewhere more secluded/isolated in public - go for kiss, almost every time they kiss back
- Start moving my hands around her body after about 15 seconds of kissing
- Go for rubbing her pussy (LMR), go for it again later and pass it
- Can't get pants off, only one layer of shirt
- Keep trying to escalate for an hour - no dice, keep getting rejected in the same place
- Girl eventually starts saying she needs to leave
- Starts physically pulling me out of the isolated place ("come on, Nick! Let's goooo!"), and back into public. Not getting (any) compliance at this point.
- Talk for another 10-15 minutes
- Interaction is ended

I'm going to start implementing general article and e-book advice soon, but I was wondering if there's something I'm missing out on that's self-sabotaging, so I can go straight for that.

Thanks in advance, fellas.

~Nick

 

[Nova]

Where is this secluded isolated place in public that you are using to try and take girls clothes off? A apartment of your own will increase your efficiency hugely.

 

[PrettyDecent]

Yeah, same thoughts I'm having, Nova. I'm saving up right now for a place in the inner city, and in the meantime I'm upgrading my pulling skills. I've tried as many places as girls I pulled, but the 'official' spots are a long alleyway, and the back of an abandoned daycare building.

I haven't gotten any resistance tailored to the public thing since the first and second times I attempted it. LMR recently sounded like the same I'd get in a secluded bedroom, so I'm thinking its a structural rather than logistic issue.

Good point though; would rather have a bedroom

~Nick

 

[Smurf]

It seems insane that you pull girls in public. Props to you, Nick! Since I have minimum experience in this kind of thing, I can look into what other people do and compare it to what you do. I suggest you do the same and of course keep trying because the skill is there. (Seriously, I don't even deserve that green rank.)

So I'll hopefully come back in a few days with some info for ya'.

Jake.

 

[lao che]

try a park, after dark. i 've had much success with this. and i'm far from an expert, at present.

a long alleyway, and the back of an abandoned daycare building ........ maybe it's not as sleazy as you make it sound.

i've climbed into locked parks, frame it as an adventure. i've took girls for picnics, and just happened to be somewhere secluded after the sun goes down. one particular time i was trying to teach a girl the basics of texas holdem poker, when all she wanted was to get down to business. i was so fucking green i had no idea. she was antsy, irritable and bored before i finally pulled the trigger.
funny, looking back. i'm like: 'huh? you don't like to play cards?' she's practically screaming in my face ' i didn't come here to play cards!@!!!'

 

[Grand Pooba]

- Go for rubbing her pussy (LMR), go for it again later and pass it
- Can't get pants off, only one layer of shirt
- Keep trying to escalate for an hour - no dice, keep getting rejected in the same place
- Girl eventually starts saying she needs to leave

How is she rejecting you and what is she doing to reject you?
Do you use your voice or verbals to turn her on? One thing I have heard working is turning her on by bringing up the idea of how "bad" doing something in public is in a deep sexy voice with a "bad boy" smile, combined with providing some pleasurable physical sensations to her at that same time as you say it. This has worked for me a few years ago but I have not tried anything like it recently, and I also did notice back then that not every girl was down like that.

I am also going to throw out this idea but have not tried it: Maybe find out early in the interaction where she lives and how many roommates she has and what they're doing, and if the place happens to be close by where you're getting frisky, turn her on and midway through it proceed to her place instead?

 

[lao che]

have you considered the possibility that this isn't last-minute resistance you're facing but is in fact not-here-not-now resistance?
do you see any of these girls again after your attempt to defile them in public?
these are young girls, yes? some of them might be quite inexperienced, or even virgins. they might really want to but don't wanna lose it round the back of an abandoned building.

seems to me that your ONLY problem is not having a place to go. not every girl will be open to same-day sex, outside. once you get your place you will be knee-deep, man! haha

Ozz's suggestion of inquiring as to her living arrangements is almost too obvious to mention. i would assume you do try to get girls back to their place first? obv there's a knack to this so some trial and error is in order.


have you tried a hotel (or a love hotel)? obv this is an expense, but, as the girls are hot for you they can often be inspired to pay half, at least. check out your area for suitable places. this needn't be sleazy at all. in fact can be a lot of fun. get a room with a tub and a a cheap bottle of bubbly from the store. happy days！make it an experience for her. taking a girl to a hotel for sex is only sleazy if YOU feel sleezy. if you feel calm and cool and natural about it she will pick up your vibe.

i read your journal entries. pretty amazing what you managed to do so far. that gelato-girl story is an eye-opener.



you said your in fremantle, australia? i thought you were from holland, no?