Hello, this is my first post, not my first SDL but it's been a while.
I was probably one of GC first members over a decade ago and I love Chase's work but life changes and it took me away from all this for many years. I am 32 now and eager to make up for lost time.
Recently got back into this as I am travelling across Alpine europe while working remotely and was going to make my first post yesterday in General but things happen and today I am excited to write a LR instead!
Sorry if I am verbose, I've never written a FR and feel kinda weird doing it.
This was the heaviest LMR I've ever experienced so maybe it is of interest for that, so please read on.
The first section is meeting, 2nd is our "instant date", 3rd is the pull, and finally I write about this LMR which to me was both top-rank intense but also quite satisfying to conquer.
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So today I wake up a bit hung over from a wonky night out in Salzburg that left me with 5 straight rejections on open at the city's main meet market after a fun outing at the local irish pub. I was in good state great mood so it hurt me that I couldn't hook anybody. Usually women are very good to me. Anyway I decide to do something today before it rains and visit the local palace.
The signage was awful and as I am looking for the entrance this cute girls walks up ahead of me clearly looking for the museum entrance like I was.
I am lazy so I let her do the walking and decide to follow if she finds it.
Instead she didn't and turns my way when I realize she's got an even better figure than I thought at first so I decide to open with a friendly (german) "hey, where is the entrance"?
She turns out to be asian (HK) and laughs that I'd assume she speaks German. We move to english.
Very casual vibe, not a golden hook or anything excited, but I said great let's go find it and she tags along.
If there is anything I know about women it is that so long as she keeps following you around we are solid.
I don't introduce myself or anything formal, but as we walk we keep up some chat to get to know each other a little.
We don't find the entrance, in fact we walk 3 floors for no reason, so I tell her we'll ask the Austrians.
I open 3 or 4 groups until finally we meet a local who laughs and tells us there is no museum - it is just a garden.
So the girl and I laugh about it, and I just assume that she will keep following me so I take her to go explore the garden pathways.
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It doesn't feel like an instant date because I never ask her to go anywhere with me, it is just implied that she will continue following me around.
We see the gardens, at some point I tell her she's cute, start handling her a bit to change directions when necessary, and we end up sitting at a bench for a smoke break. All the meantime I am keeping it pleasant, some jokes, rapport, very light teasing, logistical info, just being a good companion I think.
I tell her this place is known for the movie Sound of Music and that I haven't seen it, neither has she, so I suggest wanting to watch it sometime.
I get some info on her plans for the evening, and after some good convo and a bit of nerves I tell her I am staying at a nice apartment with a TV so we should hang out and watch it maybe with some wine and snacks. She doesn't give me an enthusiastic yes but asks how far because she still has some shopping to do. I tell her it isn't far so we start walking over.
We get home and I open the windows for air and offer her some water. She seems skittish and declines the wine, so I offered a bowl of berries instead while we pull up the movie. Fortunately it wasn't the whole movie but a series of skits, which I liked because each one gave a different topic to use as a springboard for juicier conversation. My place has chairs not couches so it was hard to get physical, indeed she refused a kiss the entire time.
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From here it got tough, I did not know I have this sort of patience with women because she must have said "No" to me at least 5 times but it felt like 10.
I want to give huge credit to Alek R "Teevster" because his style of analytic writing is so similar to my own manner of thinking he is one of my favourite writers of all genres and specifically his work on Persistence has redefined my philosophy on it and direclty allowed me to be chill with girls saying No in such a way that I cannot seriously believe she ended up saying Yes. The best part was that after all those No's she does a complete 180 and becomes a hungry lioness!
For all you masochists, here is my detailed account, otherwise go TLDR to my summary at end.
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I use every excuse to stand up and get something to come back and move my chair closer, and end up throwing my arm around her shoulder as we watch the movie, which she accepts, but by some intution I feel that Chase's 10min rule would be too rushed.. I use the movie's plotline for excuses to engage in moves I can go for a kiss from, but she rejects it and I realize that this will be some work.
The next skit is about nuns, so I ask her jokingly if they cannot get married or if they must be virgins for life, and then suggest that we could never deal with that. It was a surprisingly fun way to get sexual, and of course she agrees she needs sex, but again I cannot get the kiss.
The third is about puppets and I get to playing footsie, but once again no kiss and she says something about having to leave before it rains so I suggest we see the balcony to check the clouds and have a smoke break.
I tell her these clouds have been here all day and they will keep delaying the rain forecast, so no worries, but she is still a bit skittish and I get the idea to ask her if she remembers my name.
She responds that I never gave her my name! My memory is awful but I think I did, anyhow I reintroduce myself and find out that I misheard her name anywhow and now we are properly reacquanted. During our convo she mentions how she can't ride bicycles and I use that to suggest that it is about balance and maybe if she takes me up on learning some Tango it would help her ride a bike. I had seeded Tango before, but now that I am running dry on options I feel like it is the only thing to go for.
We go in and even though she was convinced she can't dance I managed to get her shoes off and dancing tango with me.
She was in fact quite clumsy but she got into it and ended up going for a dive before I could push her into a wall/my bed which is great, but she still rejected the kiss!
By now I tell her to just lay in bed and relax a bit with me.
We are both travellers on long trips and I tell her how important it is to stretch and massage our muscles.
I get her rolling over in bed and cuddling into me. But still no kiss.
She finally tells me that she is on her period and that we can't do this.
I tell her it is no problem, we don't need to do anything she doesnt' want to, it is not gross, and that besides, this is a BNB and someone else will clean it! because it is their job!
She asks my age and wonders why I am not married, so we start talking about this and I get it out of her that she doesn't want a husband and enjoys being single. I tell her not to worry, that I won't try to marry her, and that she doesn't need to tell her mom either, and finally she seems to open up a bit more, but again no kiss.
By this point I give up on kissing her, so I decide to go for her pussy.
We had been cuddling a bit, I was massaging her tired back muscles, and now I come back to this flexibility theme we had going earlier and I have her raise her legs so we can compare how flexilble we are.
Of course she beats me, but now I can move her a bit so that I can get my thigh onto her crotch.
We cuddle a bit more, but now I am rubbing her pussy with my legs and she starts to moan.
Eventually she asks if I have a condom, and I am like HOLY CHRIST FINALLY and we start getting naked.
I had to get a towel to handle her concerns about her period again but we do get to good times and it was fun.
Really tight pussy, almost annoying tight, but thankfully she didn't bleed that much and it wasn't such a mess to clean up.
Lots of fun, she wants to keep in touch but IDK if that will be possible.
Maybe we will have to meet again tomorrow or never, who knows but what a trip.
---
Well that's all I've got.
It's been refreshing to write out my thoughts like this, but again I apologize for the lengthiness.
I don't think I wrote anything that was unnecessary, but it felt like a lot and I'm sure I would feel lethargic about reading it all.
I hope some of you found it worthwhile and would love to hear some comments/insights.
My biggest takeaway was how schizophrenic a woman's sex drive can be.
She can say NO 10 times and then beg you for cock.
I love that I can meet a woman totally at random in the middle of the day and then go home for some raunchy sex.
It is the thrill of the unexpected that makes it even better.
I was supposed ot be working today...
She doesn't need ot be enthusiastic, if she is following you around she is interested at a subconcious level and open to more.
And if she doesn't leave you, she is still potentially interested.
I didn't even bother cumming until she begged for that too.
Frankly, I now believe the correct answer to "how long a man should last in bed" is as long as it takes for a woman to beg for his cum.
Personally I still have to consider if I actually want to, but I think this rule gives you permission to do so if you please without jeoparziding her satisfaction while ensuring both people have a great time.
Thanks for your patience,
TKR
I was probably one of GC first members over a decade ago and I love Chase's work but life changes and it took me away from all this for many years. I am 32 now and eager to make up for lost time.
Recently got back into this as I am travelling across Alpine europe while working remotely and was going to make my first post yesterday in General but things happen and today I am excited to write a LR instead!
Sorry if I am verbose, I've never written a FR and feel kinda weird doing it.
This was the heaviest LMR I've ever experienced so maybe it is of interest for that, so please read on.
The first section is meeting, 2nd is our "instant date", 3rd is the pull, and finally I write about this LMR which to me was both top-rank intense but also quite satisfying to conquer.
---
So today I wake up a bit hung over from a wonky night out in Salzburg that left me with 5 straight rejections on open at the city's main meet market after a fun outing at the local irish pub. I was in good state great mood so it hurt me that I couldn't hook anybody. Usually women are very good to me. Anyway I decide to do something today before it rains and visit the local palace.
The signage was awful and as I am looking for the entrance this cute girls walks up ahead of me clearly looking for the museum entrance like I was.
I am lazy so I let her do the walking and decide to follow if she finds it.
Instead she didn't and turns my way when I realize she's got an even better figure than I thought at first so I decide to open with a friendly (german) "hey, where is the entrance"?
She turns out to be asian (HK) and laughs that I'd assume she speaks German. We move to english.
Very casual vibe, not a golden hook or anything excited, but I said great let's go find it and she tags along.
If there is anything I know about women it is that so long as she keeps following you around we are solid.
I don't introduce myself or anything formal, but as we walk we keep up some chat to get to know each other a little.
We don't find the entrance, in fact we walk 3 floors for no reason, so I tell her we'll ask the Austrians.
I open 3 or 4 groups until finally we meet a local who laughs and tells us there is no museum - it is just a garden.
So the girl and I laugh about it, and I just assume that she will keep following me so I take her to go explore the garden pathways.
---
It doesn't feel like an instant date because I never ask her to go anywhere with me, it is just implied that she will continue following me around.
We see the gardens, at some point I tell her she's cute, start handling her a bit to change directions when necessary, and we end up sitting at a bench for a smoke break. All the meantime I am keeping it pleasant, some jokes, rapport, very light teasing, logistical info, just being a good companion I think.
I tell her this place is known for the movie Sound of Music and that I haven't seen it, neither has she, so I suggest wanting to watch it sometime.
I get some info on her plans for the evening, and after some good convo and a bit of nerves I tell her I am staying at a nice apartment with a TV so we should hang out and watch it maybe with some wine and snacks. She doesn't give me an enthusiastic yes but asks how far because she still has some shopping to do. I tell her it isn't far so we start walking over.
We get home and I open the windows for air and offer her some water. She seems skittish and declines the wine, so I offered a bowl of berries instead while we pull up the movie. Fortunately it wasn't the whole movie but a series of skits, which I liked because each one gave a different topic to use as a springboard for juicier conversation. My place has chairs not couches so it was hard to get physical, indeed she refused a kiss the entire time.
---
From here it got tough, I did not know I have this sort of patience with women because she must have said "No" to me at least 5 times but it felt like 10.
I want to give huge credit to Alek R "Teevster" because his style of analytic writing is so similar to my own manner of thinking he is one of my favourite writers of all genres and specifically his work on Persistence has redefined my philosophy on it and direclty allowed me to be chill with girls saying No in such a way that I cannot seriously believe she ended up saying Yes. The best part was that after all those No's she does a complete 180 and becomes a hungry lioness!
For all you masochists, here is my detailed account, otherwise go TLDR to my summary at end.
----
I use every excuse to stand up and get something to come back and move my chair closer, and end up throwing my arm around her shoulder as we watch the movie, which she accepts, but by some intution I feel that Chase's 10min rule would be too rushed.. I use the movie's plotline for excuses to engage in moves I can go for a kiss from, but she rejects it and I realize that this will be some work.
The next skit is about nuns, so I ask her jokingly if they cannot get married or if they must be virgins for life, and then suggest that we could never deal with that. It was a surprisingly fun way to get sexual, and of course she agrees she needs sex, but again I cannot get the kiss.
The third is about puppets and I get to playing footsie, but once again no kiss and she says something about having to leave before it rains so I suggest we see the balcony to check the clouds and have a smoke break.
I tell her these clouds have been here all day and they will keep delaying the rain forecast, so no worries, but she is still a bit skittish and I get the idea to ask her if she remembers my name.
She responds that I never gave her my name! My memory is awful but I think I did, anyhow I reintroduce myself and find out that I misheard her name anywhow and now we are properly reacquanted. During our convo she mentions how she can't ride bicycles and I use that to suggest that it is about balance and maybe if she takes me up on learning some Tango it would help her ride a bike. I had seeded Tango before, but now that I am running dry on options I feel like it is the only thing to go for.
We go in and even though she was convinced she can't dance I managed to get her shoes off and dancing tango with me.
She was in fact quite clumsy but she got into it and ended up going for a dive before I could push her into a wall/my bed which is great, but she still rejected the kiss!
By now I tell her to just lay in bed and relax a bit with me.
We are both travellers on long trips and I tell her how important it is to stretch and massage our muscles.
I get her rolling over in bed and cuddling into me. But still no kiss.
She finally tells me that she is on her period and that we can't do this.
I tell her it is no problem, we don't need to do anything she doesnt' want to, it is not gross, and that besides, this is a BNB and someone else will clean it! because it is their job!
She asks my age and wonders why I am not married, so we start talking about this and I get it out of her that she doesn't want a husband and enjoys being single. I tell her not to worry, that I won't try to marry her, and that she doesn't need to tell her mom either, and finally she seems to open up a bit more, but again no kiss.
By this point I give up on kissing her, so I decide to go for her pussy.
We had been cuddling a bit, I was massaging her tired back muscles, and now I come back to this flexibility theme we had going earlier and I have her raise her legs so we can compare how flexilble we are.
Of course she beats me, but now I can move her a bit so that I can get my thigh onto her crotch.
We cuddle a bit more, but now I am rubbing her pussy with my legs and she starts to moan.
Eventually she asks if I have a condom, and I am like HOLY CHRIST FINALLY and we start getting naked.
I had to get a towel to handle her concerns about her period again but we do get to good times and it was fun.
Really tight pussy, almost annoying tight, but thankfully she didn't bleed that much and it wasn't such a mess to clean up.
Lots of fun, she wants to keep in touch but IDK if that will be possible.
Maybe we will have to meet again tomorrow or never, who knows but what a trip.
---
Well that's all I've got.
It's been refreshing to write out my thoughts like this, but again I apologize for the lengthiness.
I don't think I wrote anything that was unnecessary, but it felt like a lot and I'm sure I would feel lethargic about reading it all.
I hope some of you found it worthwhile and would love to hear some comments/insights.
My biggest takeaway was how schizophrenic a woman's sex drive can be.
She can say NO 10 times and then beg you for cock.
I love that I can meet a woman totally at random in the middle of the day and then go home for some raunchy sex.
It is the thrill of the unexpected that makes it even better.
I was supposed ot be working today...
She doesn't need ot be enthusiastic, if she is following you around she is interested at a subconcious level and open to more.
And if she doesn't leave you, she is still potentially interested.
I didn't even bother cumming until she begged for that too.
Frankly, I now believe the correct answer to "how long a man should last in bed" is as long as it takes for a woman to beg for his cum.
Personally I still have to consider if I actually want to, but I think this rule gives you permission to do so if you please without jeoparziding her satisfaction while ensuring both people have a great time.
Thanks for your patience,
TKR
