LRx4: Same strategy throughout one month

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Lately I've been enjoying framing myself as a lover and seeing how fast things can move with milfs on online dating. The strategy's to sign up as early 40s on POF and message every hot lady listed as wanting casual. This has a low success percentage (terrible pics too) though totally worth the effort for the ease with those who bite.

So I say straight up I am mid 20's and lied to message older women. This takes care of sexual intent without saying anything. Anyone who keeps conversing normally is down. It's easy to tell which are attention seeking, just chatting etc. and can be let go. With those who comply and allow light rapport and fast date planning, it's very easy to have a fairly platonic message conversation allowing her ASD to turn completely off. This leads to her lightly initiating the sexual frame (chasing), signalling time to escalate just a little with words to confirm she's getting fucked.

All of this is online/text and three times now has resulted in women coming straight over and fucking within five minutes of meeting. Older women online have terrible options. Remember ECON 101 (supply & demand). I rent office space to make music so inviting her to the 'studio' may be a big help here too.

First one actually was right over to fuck in the bedroom. This report's probably hard to follow. It's like 5am right now. At McDonald's lol been walking outside for 2-3 hours. Long story unrelated to girls... So, dirty texted one night with a heavier one. She fell asleep. Got her to come over 9am to the doorstep lol she was horny from an unrelenting hard push.

Lay count's around 10, with 7 in the last 7 months. The 4 in this report are all within the past month, maybe a little longer.

Next not counted in the three instant lays - conservative woman. Took til second date to get her over and HJ cause she thinks BJs are risky STD wise (will deal with this in the future), third date to fuck. Found out later cause she's recently divorced and "hadn't been touched like that in 4 years". Turns out she wasn't expecting to come over so fast and just wanted to shave then do it next time, like everything having to be perfect like losing her virginity again lol

Second minutes from meet to fuck is a nurse off work due to migraines from a non growing brain tumor. She used to deliver babies and see others die in the same day. Lives outside the city with no options. All this leads to living in the moment it seems. Mid 30's with a kid. Says she makes guys wait 3 dates usually cause they don't respect her after typically. Framed this as them being judgmental and sexually hung up.

Tonight's was awesome. Barely texted beforehand. She's 51 lol and FIT. This required very little texting cause it's so taboo and hot with our huge age difference. High sex drive. Said she came 3 times. Really weird given my shitty history to now hear three women in a row say something akin to 'you really know how to fuck'. All expressed interest in returning before leaving the first night. Didn't take the first of these four back lol

Next-next date is with a woman Facebook says is an old buddy's mother!!! Total coincidence as went to high school across the country. No way she knows this yet. She asked if she 'should dress sexy' and said I 'will not be disappointed'. She won't meet in the studio right away though but we'll be around the corner.

Too easy.

Gotta get into day game though. Never done night game at all. Save for 2 early social circle ones it's all been online, which will change. It's nice to fuck milfs cause they're often sexually experienced but my 23 year old girlfriend's pretty cute and it would be nice to have more young skin in the mix. Tinder too (talking those who don't even match) isn't looking all that great even compared to who's walking the streets.

Oh then there's one mid 30's from out of town who has an 8hr layover flying from Mexico. She's down to drop in for wine instead of waiting.

Unemployed and broke - recently replaced an entire harem. Sharing plans up front to move away eventually seems to work really well. So it's 1. Fuck right away then 2. Deep dive after sex to increase retention.

Can't see this ever working outside milfs online low in options cause apparently old guys online search for relationships so lover competition is low (and almost all are pretty good looking ladies though none all around real keepers). Definitely makes me feel like fast day time same day lays are possible with real hot girls though. Lover frame first and foremost.

 

[lao che]

Nice going sir.

Milfs are a fetish of yours, or you're just practicing with the lower hanging fruit?


I was thinking about you the other day. You had that LR about a 'lesbian' if I'm not mistaken?

 

[Ree]

Nice going sir.

Milfs are a fetish of yours, or you're just practicing with the lower hanging fruit?


I was thinking about you the other day. You had that LR about a 'lesbian' if I'm not mistaken?

Wanted to ask the same question...lol...

 

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Nice to hear from you Lao Che! Yes in a way it's about the low hanging fruit, though also happened by accident. I grew up with a stutter and still have issues ordering coffee from fat chicks. Early successes with social circle and one day game instance were just reeling in and taking the lead with agressive women. I've basically never done an in person approach (besides a few experiments), though have an interest in street/shop game. In typical interactions the speech is a complete non issue, though it almost always surfaces when put on the spot in some way especially when first meeting, so it's likely going to rear and fade as a part of approach anxiety.

This led to simply starting with online. Now I had plenty platonic friends in university and have met many of my sister's friends who are highly educated and successful, and POF just simply doesn't seem to have any high quality women of this calibre. The older crowd however does see some great women who seem to hop on for a few weeks after a breakup before realizing how fucked up it is. Not that I'm only looking for girls who wear business pencil skirts but you see more normal people vs. those with a bit of crazy in their eyes. Maybe it's cause a hot university aged girl just goes out with her friends after a breakup whereas one with a far busier life who hasn't been on a date since before the guy she's divorcing hops on the internet in addition to going to wine tastings etc.

After several good experiences with older women they're definitely an interest now. We'll see what happens once meeting more young girls though. It'll likely balance out. It's been great training though.

As for the 'lesbian', she definitely had the most intense convulsions as if it was really a big deal to be touched by a guy again. Honestly I don't know anything about homosexuality. Gonna have to start with some threesomes like you LC! I'd really like to know how lesbians differ from the average girl with some bisexual tendencies (and is that really every girl deep down?). Having only one reference experience I shouldn't conclude all girls are bi and lesbians are just ones who have had more bad experiences with men. In reality I'd love to talk to lesbians who grew up without any sexual trauma relating to men and hear if they believe themselves to be genetically different or however else it came to be.

 

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Oh one other reason for the age imbalance - though I do message far more older women than younger simply according to who looks hot enough and also a normal cool person, my pictures and profile really suck. Instead of focusing on improving here I want to burn the boat and hit the streets instead (cause even these older women aren't anything special and the city's central business district has some much hotter looking ladies where discretion will be admittedly at its most important) I must be up against fiercer competition with the young ones. Success with older ages likely came in spite of the pictures where my game still stood out so much.

 

[lao che]

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i admire the way you have systematized your game. you seem to study and absorb and then apply the concepts in quite a methodical way. a lot of people could benefit by taking a page from your book. myself included, of course.

after reading the particular LR i was planning to get into a discussion with you about lesbian women, but i never got round to it. i think we have similar points of view. something on another thread jogged my memory


nice to hear your success with overcoming your stammer. reminds me of Ryan Hall, a BJJ champion, and now UFC fighter.
he has tourette's syndrome, which now still manifests itself with a tick (he blinks a lot) but Ryan has said jiu-jitsu is to thank for helping him to control the more severe aspects. (here's a video of him which really struck a nerve with me. i watch it almost every day now. i find it incredibly motivational - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MBVD_tZeU)

another thing i'd like to tell you about is a substance called phenibut. the story goes it was invented in Russia to help keep the cosmonauts calm when shit went down in the space station.
i can honestly say this stuff changed my life for the better. so much so that i seldom feel the need to take it anymore.
it's a powerful substance, and not to be taken lightly. i'd gladly answer questions (perhaps by PM so as not to hijack your thread)

 

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Hey thanks LC! Yeah I just worked to hammer in the concepts so there wouldn't be a doubt of overall plan once hitting the streets. I remember reading Chase's book and learning so much to apply at once that I had yet to reach the part on plausible deniability near the end and was asking women to have sex haha. My only day game encounter led to a medium-length girlfriend simply by knowing the process exactly. Weird getting a compliment on being 'good at wheeling girls' on the first one...

This led to learning about relationships though, which set off a whole nother bout of reading. I think having the whole understanding of open relationships before going into things will help a LOT being in a life phase of not planning to commit to anyone for a long while. Hard to go meet women wanting to connect with a girl then leave her. I'm still wrestling with handling the genders' conflicting mating goals and coming to terms with impermanence, but am ready to meet more fuck buddies.

In reality though I am just casting a wide net and settling pretty hard haha. Honestly I just needed to write this report just to help stay awake haha maybe it was just having something to focus on, but it felt like little testosterone boosts just by accessing the memories. Still though - ever had a girl tell you meth is fun? In addition now that I've had a buddy's mom over, it's definitely time for day game as she read my palm which was cool til we got to how much she sees spirits and believes there's people living in the Earth's core.

Thanks for the tips man. That was a great video. Might put reading into phenibut on hold til something's absolutely necessary. Maybe approaches won't be so bad after all. Still haven't even started.

Please share as you learn more about lesbians! Sure would be great to have an understanding before meeting a woman with plenty experience with girls who could come over and show other girls good times. Sounds like you have such a friend already!