Manipulative psychology game

[SillyCarl]

Disclaimer : this is not for everyone since it’s very hardcore manipulative but if you’re mean enough to enjoy toying with people’s emotions and thoughts this is the shit.

Ive tried this on two dates now, I learnt this from a guy called Tim from Viking Lifestyle, so I wanna hear from you guys who know psychology or have tried something like this. Also if this type of game only works shorterm being manipulative in nature.

Basically what it is, is :

1.Boost her ego
2.Break rapport until she starts qualifying
3.Throw out a small investment hoop
4.Reward her
5.Repeat, but this time you make the hoop slightly bigger.

Okay so you talk to a girl, get an insta date or a day 2 then during the date you boost her ego by giving her compliments, basically anything that makes her feel like the shit. Then you ask something of interest to you like nutrition and training, if her reply is is weak you break rapport until she starts qualifying. Example for the next few minutes you don’t look much at her when she talks, check your phone, answer with one or two words etc. She feels the tension and starts qualifying that it’s not that she’s lazy but she works so much and starts asking you a lot of rapport-seeking questions. When she starts doing that you ask for investment like getting her to grab a napkin for you, if she complies and you reward her telling her she’s nice and giving her your full attention again, telling stories, laughing, having fun. For a while, then it’s time again for the process.

I did this with two girls I had dates with and it worked like crazy, the one girl was so hooked she offered to take my number after the date and was making plans herself to meet up another time, I couldn't take her home that day due to other reasons. My question is, are there any things to be concerned of with this type of game and how would this play out in a long term relationship with a girl, I'd assume this would create a unhealthy relationship ?

 

[Smurf]

Yo!

I fail to see how this is manipulation unless you specifically intend on hurting someone's feelings or doing something for selfish gain. I do this subconsciously as a test to see how into me the girl is at that point.

 

[Virgin101]

Yo!

I fail to see how this is manipulation unless you specifically intend on hurting someone's feelings or doing something for selfish gain. I do this subconsciously as a test to see how into me the girl is at that point.

Well just because you don't hurt her feelings doesn't mean it isn't manipulation!

 

[trashKENNUT]

Virgin101,

you don't hurt her feelings doesn't mean it isn't manipulation!

Like religion, network marketing, society, etc

People are just blinded by everything. Like society and millennials today. They are literally put in delusion more worse than any other.

Zac

 

[Virgin101]

I'd probably think of it a different way to this, but I'm always careful myself not to over do it either. The conversation mightn't always allow you to do this. Once you do it once, the battle's often sort of won by then. I think it must have been Kevin Costner in 'The Bodyguard' that initially got me thinking along these lines.

But now that you mention that about the napkins, I do once remember a stranger (dude) who sat beside me at a bar and started talking. He asked me for some napkins by saying "hey, let me have of those napkins". It wasn't really a necessary question, so my reply to him was "I will let you"! With manipulation, you've got to be good with defending as well as attacking. Now that I can see the nuances better, I actually hate manipulators myself.

Another time, with a girl who kept pushing the same inappropriate questions, I made an excuse to leave by saying "I'm going to go dance". She said "yeah, go dance" like as if she was telling me what to do, so I turned around and said "if you say so!"

Another encounter:

Person: "could you open that bottle for me like a good man"
Me: "you're forgetting one word?" in other words, being called a good man doesn't mean shit to me. So I knock em into place. In this case though, I was already opening it as I was being called 'good man', so too late.

 

[Virgin101]

Virgin101,

just because you don't hurt her feelings doesn't mean it isn't manipulation!

Like religion, network marketing, society, etc

People are just blinded by everything. Like society and millennials today. They are literally put in delusion more worse than any other.

Zac

Your words don't seem to have any relevance to what I said. Spread your buzz words elsewhere and don't reply to my comments in future.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Virgin101,

Your words don't seem to have any relevance to what I said. Spread your buzz words elsewhere and don't reply to my comments in future.

ooooKKKKKKAAAAAYYYYYYY

What i am saying is the truth.

Zac

 

[Virgin101]

Virgin101,

Your words don't seem to have any relevance to what I said. Spread your buzz words elsewhere and don't reply to my comments in future.

What i am saying is the truth.
Zac

But not relevant to my comment

It may be the truth. But get over it already. I see your bloody threads/comments uttering the same bloody rhetoric.

Maybe you were manipulated by society into have a gang banger has your avatar!

 

[trashKENNUT]

HAHA!

GOTTA LOVE PLAYING THE "HEEL".

even if i haven't post in A VERY LONG WHILE in response to you. So i don't know what you talking about.

Zac

 

[Virgin101]

HAHA!

GOTTA LOVE PLAYING THE "HEEL".

even if i haven't post in A VERY LONG WHILE in response to you. So i don't know what you talking about.

Zac

Learn English properly, stop posting in annoying huge letters and spend less time on the computer. I'm guessing you've got glasses by now.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Virgin101,

Learn English properly, stop posting in annoying huge letters and spend less time on the computer. I'm guessing you've got glasses by now.

Gotta to stop checking in on me, man. I do agree. I still don't get how context works differently in Asia and US/Europe. Damn english.



ZAc

 

[Smurf]

Well just because you don't hurt her feelings doesn't mean it isn't manipulation!

You should expand on this. Almost all of my friends do some of the same behaviors, including myself. I'm actually really curious as to what your thoughts are on this.

Jake.

 

[Average]

Hey guys,

Damn. There are so many words here that I want to quote. This thread is interesting.

I'd like to start off by thanking you for this post SC. I've still got a phobia for asking for investment and doing this is really helpful. Plus I think I can use it to get me used to touching girls as well. So thank you.

To answer your question, I'd say that as long as you don't do it too much then you should be fine. To further elaborate I'd also like to answer these posts right here

I fail to see how this is manipulation unless you specifically intend on hurting someone's feelings or doing something for selfish gain. I do this subconsciously as a test to see how into me the girl is at that point.

Well just because you don't hurt her feelings doesn't mean it isn't manipulation!

Everything that we do is manipulation ( in my point of view) so long as your changing a person's views, beliefs, or actions. You have manipulated them.

Manipulation has gotten a bad reputation even though it is regularly used to get things done smoothly.

for example: if you're late because something unbelievable happened to you and now you have to explain to your boss as to why you're late. You'd probably make up a believable lie to tell him rather than tell him the unbelievable story and risk losing your job just because the boss didn't want to believe you.

Manipulation isn't necessarily bad so long as you're avoiding to hurt her. And since seduction usually ends with the girl getting with a sexy guy caring about her wellbeing while fucking her brains out.....why wouldn't she want that? Ergo, it can't be bad.

Like religion, network marketing, society, etc

Manipulation involves so many things that literally anything can be thought of as manipulation. The good and the bad. These examples are the easiest to identify because that's where manipulation is expected. But the truth is....Manipulation is everywhere....the smoothed alphas out there that i know either can manipulate
Or their interests genuinely do fall in line with the crowd their leading.

Manipulation is an everyday thing. But its gotten a bad reputation. I wanna change the word we're using to something else more positive. Like influencing or something. Because what your doing, sillycarl, is smooth and harmless. Beneficial in fact. Matter of fact, Imma start doing this pronto, so please dont copyright it

You just gotta refrain from overusing it and bad intentions since that can kill anything.

 

[Average]

You should expand on this. Almost all of my friends do some of the same behaviors, including myself. I'm actually really curious as to what your thoughts are on this.

See? Manipulation is everywhere! Lol, relax Carl...just keep on trucking.

 

[Virgin101]

Well just because you don't hurt her feelings doesn't mean it isn't manipulation!

I'm actually really curious as to what your thoughts are on this.

Jake.

Be more specific

 

[Smurf]

Are we saying manipulation is a good thing or a bad thing, how do you think it should be used, kind of the ethics behind it, I guess.

They way manipulation is down here seems to show that it's a way of influencing someone's decisions, which to me isn't necessarily manipulation but more traits of a strong leader and an alpha. Manipulation is usually has a negative connotation attached to the word, which is why I responded the way I did above. Although, if we're not using it negatively, then it's just a discussion in semantics and doesn't really matter.

Jake.