Manners and politeness in seduction

[Firesky]

Hey guys,

I wanted to ask you about your opinions on manners and politeness in seduction.

The reason is that in my experience most women, especially the more classy ones, actually do care about these things (showing gratitude, saying "thanks" when people do you favors, avoiding certain topics in certain situations etc; or at least they may get quite turned off if you commit errors). On the other hand, whenever I try to behave well-mannered I often notice myself behaving in a too nice, gentle, agreeable and passive way, smiling too much, speaking in a high pitched voice and having difficulties being dominant or navigating the conversation into useful topics- in other words, behavior that is not good for success with women. Part of the reason, I guess, is that in our current culture men are often expected to behave in such an agreeable way and since "manners" is a close cousin of "respecting social norms" one ends up behaving like in the just described way. Another reason might be that trying to behave well-mannered (or having to behave well-mannered) makes you feel overall less relaxed and more tense.

So my question is: how do you behave in a well-mannered and polite way that is acceptable in all sorts of environments (including for example business and other environments that require some formality, such as, visiting a doctor) and still display masculinity, sexuality, dominance etc? Or, is it even possible to combine these things?

 

[Skills]

You always have good manners, and politeness, but you are also poliirizing, and boundaries... dont confuse, agreeableness, going with the flow. Being calculated to no rock the boat, being a pushover with politeness... you can be polite and with good manners with strong frame, strong confidence an conviction...a lot of the top guys are very polite, not all the stereotypes are the club party obnoxious frat boy type(me), many different seduction streotypes base on target niche and demographic...

 

[CassieDon]

You're describing suppressing yourself i.e. being fake. Don't do that. Have manners without changing your fundamental being. That looks awkward and boring.

I'm from the UK, so I probably don't find it too tough to pull the politeness/well manneredness with other traits lol

 

[trashKENNUT]

The reason is that in my experience most women, especially the more classy ones, actually do care about these things (showing gratitude, saying "thanks" when people do you favors, avoiding certain topics in certain situations etc; or at least they may get quite turned off if you commit errors).

Depends on where you are.

Classy as she portrays herself to be, that flies out the window if she likes you.

To make it simple, if she is really as "classy", you won't hear from her after the fact. Because she just won't answer your texts, calls.

z@c+

 

[Firesky]

Thanks for your replies. So just to be clear, I totally agree that it is not good to behave in these fake ways and it would be preferable to behave as described by Skills: "...polite and with good manners with strong frame, strong confidence an conviction...".

So the more interesting question is not "whether" one should avoid this fakeness but rather "how" to avoid it?

Can you give me examples of politeness-behaviors to which you do pay attention when interacting with girls?

And what about if you are in an environment where you are sort of EXPECTED to behave fake? I would claim that the culture of many work-places and other organizations does expect you to behave fake and suppress yourself to some degree.

 

[Rakehell]

I’m polite, not always but most of the time. And not at the cost of my self respect, there’s a difference between showing gratitude and having mutual respect for someone else and being a supplicating door matt. Don’t be polite to the extent of not getting the things you want.

The only easy answer to your question is if you feel like you’re supplicating you probably are. When your voice gets high and you start taking on submissive posture/being overly accommodating you’re moving from politeness to supplicating out of inferiority. As Skills mentioned you need boundaries, things that you will not compromise on, these could be behaviors from yourself, or actions, or actions from other people.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Can you give me examples of politeness-behaviors to which you do pay attention when interacting with girls?

And what about if you are in an environment where you are sort of EXPECTED to behave fake? I would claim that the culture of many work-places and other organizations does expect you to behave fake and suppress yourself to some degree.

I wish i have an answer.

Everyone will tell you that they have an answer, which clearly at an absolute, no one has an answer because humans are complex.

z@c+

 

[trashKENNUT]

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