Media and society ultimately having the final say in types of girls you can get?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Re: Media and society ultimately having the final say in types of girls you can

I concur with Rusty, I don't know all that many Asian/Indian guys who even TRY to do approaches/run game/dress swagged up (or at least a look that plays to their strengths). I know there's a few in my area who run night game sets on Capital Hill like I do (you'll know what that is Fuji), I don't know how successful they are but from what I hear they are at least running a ton of approaches.

Again I really do think it just comes down to mindset/fundamentals and confidence/approaches. Ever since I started lurking on Chase's articles (and even more now that I started posting in the forums), I have noticed AN EXTREMELY HUGE boost to both my confidence AND my success with women. It's strange honestly, I walked into the dentist office for a cleaning the other day, and every woman (the one's in their 20's/early 30's anyway, checked me out; two of the techs were even flirting with me and for the first time in my life I actually felt like I knew what to say; I felt confident in talking to them, didn't matter if it went anywhere I just flirted with them and talked to them and put a smile on their faces (hot blonde included!!!). I've already had a fair amount of success with women in the past (due to my nightclub/rave scene/modeling involvement) so I know some stuff but tbh my fundamentals still need a lot of work, and now that I've been working on them the success is coming .

The "hot blondes" you're talking about treat me no differently then any other woman when I approach, and I haven't noticed an extreme difference in success ratios (via numbers/dates/lays) with them than any other clique/ethnicity or what have you.

I also think Seattle is an amazing market for these skills, you know I approached one of those hot blonde types over the weekend (though she's married I didn't see the ring), and you know what she said? She said her self confidence PLUMMETED when she moved here from San Deigo, because NOBODY approached her, (until finally her husband did, n she wifed him up ). Literally he was the SECOND GUY to approach her in 3-4 months, people don't approach here bro; if you truly believe that hot blondes are harder to get that any other girl for an Indian/Asian, Seattle is the place to change that. I know that's what I'm gonna be doing!

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Media and society ultimately having the final say in types of girls you can

The answer to most of that shit is, I have actually tried to get the hot blonde types only to be blown off by them but then the people here will rationalize saying that I "had them on a pedestal". Let me put it this way, I have seen Asian and Brown guys in my area with women of their own races, other minority groups, and even quite a few with white women but none of the white girls that fit the mold of the "hot blonde". I see Asian and Brown guys with attractive brunettes who look more professional and even some with redheads but never ones with the hot blonde cool girl types.

You know, I think it might actually have to do with girls in that category being more judgmental towards men who happen to be Asian or Indian. I mean the foreign ones might not hold those racial biases but the ones raised here in the USA who have spent their entire lives chasing status will likely put men of certain races that media portrays as "uncool" down. Just think about it for a second, everyone is practically dating everyone yet this couple is unheard of. These women are chasing after white guys and to an extent black guys but even in the most liberal cities in the USA it is borderline unheard of to see the blonde bombshell type with any other race, especially Asian and Indian men.

Maybe it is because I was a STEM major back in my college days so my mind functions that way but god damn dude, after a while, you start to wonder if there is something going on behind closed doors. If maybe the hot blonde All American girl type has been raised her whole life to avoid men of certain races because let me tell you, there are tons of Asian and Indian men in my experience who love these kinds of women. Why is it not adding up? Why do you almost never see these women with Asian men of any kind?

I am still going to try and play the numbers game as hard as I can and I will report back with results when I do because I've been having success with other kinds of white girls but not these types, but I think you have to be realistic and see what you're up against. Maybe the hot blonde has been raised her entire life to absolutely despise the idea of going for men of certain ethnic groups. You have to be aware of the problem at hand so you can better tackle it. It is like going into a game and knowing that the team you're playing against is likely going to be different than other teams you've played against.

From what I have seen personally, all evidence points to the fact that the hot blonde All American party girl types (however you want to identify them, we all know what kind of women are the topic of discussion here) hold some serious racial biases against Asian men of any kind.

 

[Bete Noire]

Re: Media and society ultimately having the final say in types of girls you can

Holy moly Fuji,

These guys are all giving you some sweet advice and mindset changes and you're just repeating the same stuff back at them. I understand it is frustrating having to work harder to get the girls that you want but that is how it is.

Your mindset going in is probably being picked up on your vibe, you are 'expecting to be rejected, and so she will feel that meaning you are less high value.

If you can take away one thing from this, change this ideal:

"All American party girl types (however you want to identify them, we all know what kind of women are the topic of discussion here) hold some serious racial biases against Asian men of any kind."

You are holding a bias against them by saying this LOL, come on man, if you are a STEM student then think for a moment - do all parents raise their kids going, 'Don't date those black guys!' ofc not! Most are not racially biased whatsoever, so get rid of this mindset and re-read ALL the advice you've been given.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Media and society ultimately having the final say in types of girls you can

The hot blonde types that guys lust after usually go for the highest status men in a given area, that means top 20 % type guys overall. In high school they went for football players and in college they went for frat bros and athletes. Most of these girls know their value because American society has them on the highest pedestal and girls with status that high are not going to be lenient on the type of guys they go after. Average white guys are not getting hot blondes, it is generally the alpha and higher value ones who get the hot blondes to sleep with or marry them. A lot of these girls have massive egos due to being spoiled by a society that goes out of its way to pander to them.

Most of the hot blonde types are also xenophobic compared to other kinds of women out there, they dislike things that aren't "American" or European. Chase's article talks a great deal about how these girls follow the latest fashion trends in Hollywood and just how shallow they can be. Asian and Indian guys are not perceived as "American", they are perceived as "foreign" (in a bad way) so you don't see the hot blondes getting with them even if these guys go after them.

It is just the way things are with a lot of these girls in the United States, we have a lot of issues with racism and a major hangup about hot blondes going for minorities. Remember the big deal people about Terrell Owens Monday Night Football issue with some blonde Desperate Housewife? American society absolutely despises a hot blonde getting with any kind of minority except with black people we tend to not show our disapproval openly and there are plenty of positive stereotypes about blacks which leads some blonde to go for them. With Asian and Indian men, this is just not the case and unfortunately these women are much more superficial than any other kind of girl out there.

Now if you were playing football, baseball, or in a high status fraternity then your race wouldn't mean shit but any guy in that situation would not be on this forum in the first place. I am white but grew up with parents that didn't let me play football due to being scared about me getting injured so I never got any hot blondes growing up. What I can suggest to Asian and Indian guys that are set on getting hot blondes is this:

1. Go for the older ones (over 30) who fit the blonde MILF stereotype, they are past their prime and generally more lenient on the type of guys they want.

2. Go for foreign ones, they hardly hold as much prejudice towards guys that look exotic and some even prefer it that way. I have a Korean friend who is dating this Swedish 8 and an Indian friend of mines used to hook up with this tall blonde from the Czech Republic on the regular.

It is unbelievably hard for guys of all races to get the young hot blonde popular girl type, being from a minority group that American media loves to make fun of makes it even harder.