Media Shitting on Pickup: "'Predatory' pick-up artist Adnan Ahmed found guilty"

[Alchemist]

This is the only place on the internet where I can share my thoughts and articles like these . . .

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-gl ... t-49831865

Just saw a news article concerning a PUA being convicted for " . . .causing offence and upset." One of the girls said "he called her "pretty" and made her feel "uncomfortable.""

Consciously or not, lots of men are jumping on the bandwagon of bashing this guy and pickup in general. I looked at the Reddit threads opened over this link and it was pathetic.

It reminded me of this Cracked article where some idiot was making fun of a piece written by Ricardus. Years back I wrote a comment arguing and all the responses and comments were full of hatred and vitriol against game and PUAs.

Funny how life works. Cracked became a SJW shithole and is now an irrelevant website.

It's not like these guys are having awesome sex lives, I look at their profiles in Reddit and see their pathetic attempts on Tinder or asking for basic advice.

What about the guy that wrote that Cracked piece: Felix Clay. Turns out his real name is Ian Fortey.

This is him:

This is the guy (video) that's trying to make fun of Ricardus and thinks that game is bullshit. Meanwhile hundreds of other guys go on the comments section to agree with him bash pickup...

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog. True. Also, nobody knows you're a clueless incel who's virtue signalling.

If I saw this guy in real life saying those things to my face, I would laugh him off as a clueless idiot, which he is. But on the internet, if you can be an author, have a blue tick and large followers on Twitter, you can command much more attention from everyone. I fall prey to this as well.

Maybe they rub me the wrong way because if these guys have a large following they can start an online campaign to "cancel" someone. So they are dangerous, likely because they are envious.

Now that game is going underground again we will be seeing interesting dynamics occur in society. Poly being accepted, men completely dropping out of the dating market and even more concentration of dating option for guys using social media as a huge leverage.

End rant.

 

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Re: Media Shitting on Pickup: "'Predatory' pick-up artist Adnan Ahmed found guil

-Alchemist

I'm not exactly sure where you wanted to go with your rant.

Is the media shitting on pickup? Yes. Is it worth talking about in and of itself? Also yes. Personally I'm bored by the topic but I acknowledge it's an important one in the big scheme of things. Actually Chase likes to lament the idea how Girls Chase could be more popular for example if mainstream media weren't against seduction, however I don't share his concerns. (OK, my personal issue with this forum really is not enough members. I'd rather be just a reader than having to personally comment on everything I have an opinion on.)

Now regarding this individual in your subject line, Adnan Ahmed. Maybe you haven't done your homework about him (or at least it didn't turn out from your text if you did), but according to my secondary sources (sources of our liking if you will, obviously I wasn't able to check out his YouTube as a primary source), he in particular is far from being an impeccable role model of seducers. Very far from it.

 

[Gunwitch]

Even more so than persecution is how Mysterys show, "The Game", "below me" NLP tactics, and mens health articles by Savoy etc etc etc have made the idea that this is an ART, this is a real learned skill into a joke. "HAHAHA ARTIST!?" is even to some guys learning this hard to swallow, when it IS a true art. Hell like a sport.

Cold approach pickup is like a learned practiced sport you can get very good at and have satisfaction in life with.

I am the happiest person I know or have ever known. Great looking married with kids guys, people who make 300k a year, hobbyists of all sorts and types don't get the satisfaction I do as a master cold approach pua and "guru" in all this.

There is nothing like setting out to go and just fuckin get in a chicks head and then bang her when you aren't her type, much less her ideal.

It's beyond satisfaction, its Machiavellian decadence.

Meanwhile the term itself "pickup artist" is laughed at by mainstream..... anyone. It's just status quo psychology basics. Either laugh at or kill the outlier who comes in and takes what you want, or you have to realize you are missing out/change or fight. Neither are something modern men are into doing.

In this case they killed him via draconian laws. Most times LUCKILY we get dismissed as if we are a bunch of guys in tinfoil hats. Which puas are until we get good of course. The percentage that do get spooky good are so low though we don't alarm anyone. A poor kid like that though gets put through the ringer once in a while with media sensationalism driving his case.


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Everybody other than PUAs hate PUAs and their craft.

Women hate PU because PU may cause a less genetically fit man to appear as a more genetically fit man which is disastrous to their stone-age minds still worrying about pregnancy.

Chodes hate PU because it highlights their own incompetence, and even worse, that their incompetence could actually be fixed with some effort. Also chodes think they will get laid for agreeing with women *facepalm*.

Social conservatives hate PU because it reduces the incentives for men to marry from a provider mindset. Many of these are also white knights who will shame men for their sexual conduct, but not women.

The SJW-left hates PU because they pander to women's concerns and women being drawn to PUAs also demolishes a lot of Feminist ideology claims.

This will not change. It will also not apply to the social adept man who shuts his mouth about PU in my experience. I have never gotten any trouble.

That being said, not all these media scandals are totally made up. There has been actual cases of rape or harassment commited by PUAs, usually involving heavy drunkenness of the perpetrators and/or the victim (cough JMULV and associates).

In day game there are no bouncers controlling who is "let in" or acceptable conduct of "guests" as in nightgame, so I will not doubt that uncalibrated guys will creep out women or even commit criminal offenses.

Of course this will be exploited by the groups above to tar all PUAs as psychopaths (cough Jordan Peterson), harassers, rapists or whatever nasty term they have at hand.

So my general advice:

Ignore the public perception of PU, it won't get better.
Don't be shitfaced drunk when hooking up.
Be careful with physical game.
Be very careful with dealing with LMR especially if you or the woman is drunk.
Don't bring home unstable, highly drunk or drugged chics.
Don't be a creep in daygame.

And you will be fine.

 

[Knight Who Say NI]

The thing is that no straight woman is, actually, "feminist". A straight woman can only "hate" men when they don't know how to get them.

But fuck them right, and this "feminist" bullshit goes out of the window. Quickly. I'll never forget one I've met: she was, literally, militant - was a kind of leader in a feminist group inside a leftist party. At the date, she would tell how men should not be allowed to speak at feminist events because "they are the enemy" and shit like that.

Of course that motivated me to show who the "enemy" was, when we were fucking. I was savage. She cummed hard, and was smitten after sex, and told how those others guys from university never gave her pleasure because they agreed with everything she said!

(Pause for laughter)

I wrote all this to tell that this could actually be the start of a golden age for pickup. This "feminism" thing, and meek men taking that at face value, is making women thirsty for a Man.

 

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The thing is that no straight woman is, actually, "feminist". A straight woman can only "hate" men when they don't know how to get them.

LOL @ your story!

This current "Feminist" thing does not even have a remotely clear-cut definition. First and second-wave Feminists had clear and rather coherent causes that were at least rational wishes from the female point of view (voting rights etc - you don't have to be mentally disturbed to want that). However this so-called third-wave Feminism of these days is little more than an angry rant from in many cases people who are not particularly happy or well-adjusted. Also a lot of women say they are "Feminists" out of conformity, with few implications for how they actually live their lives. So there is absolutely no agreement among these on what the F-word even means. I tend to not take the more angry versions of it seriously - just as I don't take the most angry MRA guys seriously. They may have some points, but any constantly raging or unhappy person is likely engaging in projection of her/his own problems upon everybody else.

When it comes to this "hate" remark - I think this should be interpreted as that they hate chodes. And the majority of men are. The entire #metoo is just about nasty chodes with bad game trying to force themself onto women or abusing their positions in this respect. So some women just blurt out a low-resolution statement that they hate "men" in general. We had one of these famous Swedish musical artists (Zara Larsson) sitting in a Norwegian TV-show saying that she "hates" men. Well she dresses as a PUA and officially has relationships with men. Not particularly conguent!

 

[Knight Who Say NI]

However this so-called third-wave Feminism of these days is little more than an angry rant from in many cases people who are not particularly happy or well-adjusted. Also a lot of women say they are "Feminists" out of conformity, with few implications for how they actually live their lives.

Exactly! My theory is that feminism concerns her material interests (under the guise of "equality"); but when it clashes with her reproductive interests (a strong man to give her babies and/or fulfill her emotional and sexual needs) and fails to deliver results, she'll choose the man everytime, I guess.

I mean, this "feminism" thing, like you said, is too abstract. Nobody knows WTF is "gender equality", and how that could benefit someone's life. And it's debatable that she is actually getting "equal pay" because of feminism.

Doubts, doubts, doubts.

Then comes a man, different from the ones from her social circle she is used to. A concrete man. A real man. And he shows a bit of interest in her.

...

Yeah, we know how it ends. lol

But what I find really, really funny, is that the people who most promote this "feminism" thing are the patriarchs from mainstream media and the major political parties. It's just a tool to confuse and distract the masses getting robbed by them.

 

[DakenMarquis]

Ok its stuff like this that makes me want to ask: I feel creepy for doing daygame, it doesn't help that my background has minorities that are linked with sex crimes in the mass media.

How can I feel less creepy, protect myself & continue my enthusiasm for game? Lol

I can make myself as attractive as possible but the creep shame won't go away in my head, because of the minority issue & current paranoia in dating. Sighh lol