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Messing up with a cute girl on the bus

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Space Monkey
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I met this girl on a bus ride. I was feeling good, moral was high, clothes were good and fresh. She was short white girl, around 21, wearing white shirts, blue jeans and sandals. When she enters the bus, I immediately saw her using peripheral vision. She sat behind me first, and then as the bus was a little crowded, I needed to get up and move to make rooms for other passengers to exit the bus. This gave her more opportunity to evaluate me, so I thought that preopening was okay. Next, as I sat on a new seat near the window, there was no more seats available so she was forced to take the one next to me.
I open her by pretending to not know where the next bus stop was, using a carefully prepared voice. After she gave me the answer, I pause a little bit and then asked her where she is going (opener recommended on this article). It's the first time that I try that question. I thought it was lame but she reacted with a smile. Then I played my usual game: questions, statements, tease, etc. She seems to be really exited, smiling, sometimes almost laughing at every sentence I said.
Everything was fine until it was time to ask for her number. The sequence that ruined it all: My bus stop was getting very close and I still didn't know how to ask her out. Here's the interaction:
- "Would you like to go out sometimes ?" (clearly a forced attempt, but I thought that she was super interested so I can get away with a "minor" mistake)
- I don't go out often. (still smiling)
- Really ? ... (Not knowing what to do)
- I usually stays at home with my sister (A potential conversation thread that I missed!)
- I thought we could go grab a bite or something!
- ...
- Here's my bus stop. It was fun talking to you.
- Bye
- Bye

Here's the positive:
- Voice, fashion, general presentation, mood
- Preopening
- Try new things. I thought the opener was weak, but she thought otherwise!

In hindsight, here's my mistakes:
- I was not prepared to close. I didn't know how to ask her out.
- I was in a hurry so I panicked a little bit.
- I missed an opportunity to deep dive or to go to another conversation thread
- I could have lie about my destination and get out a little further in order to continue the conversation
- Maybe it was all just random reaction from her (related to the reaction vs result)

I have some questions:
- How do you guys would ask her out in this situation? I understand that I need something more natural like: "I get out on the next stop. It was fun talking to you and I would like to continue this conversation on another day." But I don't know how to phrase the request.
 
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James D

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Can you give more details on the conversation between the opener and the attempted close?
 

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Can you give more details on the conversation between the opener and the attempted close?
Sure. After she points out where she's going,
- Studying? (There's a popular college around)
- No (smiling)
- You look like you're a law student
- I actually live there
- So you're already heading home at 10AM ? Interesting
- (just smile)
- You're supposed to ask me too where I'm going, right ?
- (giggling)
- I'm trying to find a gift for my sister. It's her birthday tomorrow. Do you have relatives ?
- I have one sister
- What gift would you give her for her birthday ?
- There's so much options. Necklaces, watch, ...

Here's the only time where she actively participates in the conversation.

- I thought about a bracelets.
- That's a good idea. You are overthinking it
- ...

The whole interaction was short - around 5-8 minutes. She only looked at me twice - when I first open here and when she smiled for the first time. It all followed this pattern - I was talking and she was either giggling or giving brief answer.
 

James D

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There wasn't the kind of spark and momentum to successful land the date within that time frame.

Keep improving your fundamentals, that's an essential part of the spark.

On that convo that you had with her tho, seems like you were asking way too many questions while she was investing minimally.

I'd suggest reading lay reports and focussing on the initial approach. Try to get a feel of the vibe.

Btw, did you even introduce yourself to her and exchange names?

Good job on approaching btw!
 
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Tryst

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"Would you like to go out sometime?" is okay! It's a way of asking a girl out. It's not what I would personally say - better to speak more authoritatively, and tell her a plan of what she can accompany you to do. But your way is perfectly fine.

I would say in shorter, less invested interactions, it may be better to try and take the number/insta and game over text, instead of trying to organise a date right there. (But in longer interactions, I recommend pushing to organise a date on the spot, before you take the number.)

She responds with an implied rejection, but it's not no. With the time constraint, you should have just pushed further.

Example rejection I took last weekend, in a 2set:

Tryst: Look, I really have to go, but give me your Instagram, let's meet sometime [not great, but I really was rushed and my daygame is poor]
Target: I'm not really dating right now.

In my head, I knew "I'm not dating right now" is girlspeak for "I don't want to date you." But I just kept pushing, because why not?

Tryst: Ah, yes, but the difference is I'm sexy as fuck. [This is probably not a great response. Don't use it.]
Target's Friend: Haha yes, he really is!
Target: Ahaha, yes, you are gorgeous, but I really am not dating.

So I got rejected, and I just kept pushing, till I really did properly get rejected. I bantered a bit with the girls after the soft rejection, made them laugh, tried again, and got properly rejected. I didn't lose anything by pushing.

Why didn't you push? She did not say no. Try again. Force her to reject you properly. What have you got to lose?


Question to everyone: What is a good response to "I'm not dating right now?" It is normally just a polite rejection, but let's treat it a shit test - what can we come up with?

- Tryst
 
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Space Monkey
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Why didn't you push? She did not say no. Try again. Force her to reject you properly. What have you got to lose?
I will try to push harder next time. Thanks for the feedback!
 
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