Missed Approach Invites (Day Game)

[Rakehell]

In situations where you’re in passing and you get a quick IOI, but are too slow to react and the girl goes about what she’s doing. Is there a way to salvage the approach without ruining the social frame?

When I miss a super quick window to approach i’m reluctant to go back and engage because I feel like it’d set the wrong precedent early on.

Which is cool there’s a million more girl’s, but on day’s where there haven’t been many prospects I could really use a smooth way to approach without putting her on the spot too bad.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Derek da man]

If it's just her walking past in the street then she's gone and it's quite difficult, but if it's somewhere where you can engineer her crossing your path again then I usually open with a cheeky "Are you following me?" or similar so as to set the frame on her chasing.

 

[DarkKnight]

When I miss a super quick window to approach i’m reluctant to go back and engage because I feel like it’d set the wrong precedent early on.

Then I just assume attraction and strike fast (without beeing needy and supplicating etc. etc. ) Because who knows when you are going to see the same girl again, chances are she will be happy you talk with her. You do have to calibrate for her being surprised or slightly going into autorejection though, but the alternative, letting her go is much worse in my book.

I really hate giving random things or people power in my life so I persist and go on agressively when I want something. I basically interject.

 

[Rakehell]

If it's just her walking past in the street then she's gone and it's quite difficult, but if it's somewhere where you can engineer her crossing your path again then I usually open with a cheeky "Are you following me?" or similar so as to set the frame on her chasing.

yeah i’m more so talking about those times where you can’t really induce another invite. Like say you’re leaving a place and she’s going in, she gives blatant invite, but you’re on your way out the door.

Then I just assume attraction and strike fast (without beeing needy and supplicating etc. etc. ) Because who knows when you are going to see the same girl again, chances are she will be happy you talk with her. You do have to calibrate for her being surprised or slightly going into autorejection though, but the alternative, letting her go is much worse in my book.

I really hate giving random things or people power in my life so I persist and go on agressively when I want something. I basically interject.

Thanks, really practical advice. I figured an approach is better than no approach at all, but seems there’s no way you can finesse it so that it comes across smooth/least effort socially.

 

[Skjöldr]

Dude... who cares, you just approach her. If she wanted to talk to you, she will be happy you ran up to her. If she didn't want to talk to you, then nothing matters at that point.

I would just say like "Hey I just caught your eyes there, and I would feel remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to meet you". It really is that simple.

 

[Glow]

In situations where you’re in passing and you get a quick IOI, but are too slow to react and the girl goes about what she’s doing. Is there a way to salvage the approach without ruining the social frame?

When I miss a super quick window to approach i’m reluctant to go back and engage because I feel like it’d set the wrong precedent early on.

Which is cool there’s a million more girl’s, but on day’s where there haven’t been many prospects I could really use a smooth way to approach without putting her on the spot too bad.

Thanks in advance.

If you have time just reposition and insure you re-ignite her within her pheripheral vision or radius of vision. This will initiate a small eye contact interplay of checking each other out if you do it right and have good vibes and fundamentals. Take your time and find proper ways. you can position in many ways in most spaces so consider what sharp move ins you can make or positions. Mostly i like to be to one of her sides to reduce intensity but insure that she sees me.

Girls will sense almost anything w their radars so use it to effect her eg with vibe bombs or vibe setups and attractive presence. You cant be insecure and wavery here.

You can do as @Phoenix outlines too and dont worry about social frame. Proper opening escalatory style is attractive if done cool, grounded and confidently with the right vibe. casual indirect can create other impacts. I like to use room game to activate the feeling from her that she is glancing at me and feeling things before we speak aka a form of active hovering. in increases the amount of stimuli i give before moving in and she will perceive that shes checking me out before i engage providing for better initial. I like to generate its on moment but thats demands a bit.

check bacchus seducing smooth article in GC which has more context to what im outlining here helping understand things.

 

[Rakehell]

Dude... who cares, you just approach her. If she wanted to talk to you, she will be happy you ran up to her. If she didn't want to talk to you, then nothing matters at that point.

I would just say like "Hey I just caught your eyes there, and I would feel remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to meet you". It really is that simple.

hey man what can i say, got a smooth guy image to uphold

If you have time just reposition and insure you re-ignite her within her pheripheral vision or radius of vision. This will initiate a small eye contact interplay of checking each other out if you do it right and have good vibes and fundamentals. Take your time and find proper ways. you can position in many ways in most spaces so consider what sharp move ins you can make or positions. Mostly i like to be to one of her sides to reduce intensity but insure that she sees me.

Girls will sense almost anything w their radars so use it to effect her eg with vibe bombs or vibe setups and attractive presence. You cant be insecure and wavery here.

I think i’m following you Glow. By vibe bomb do you mean letting her observe me without noticing her? Like letting her suck up my presence and think about me? Never heard the term before but I think thats what you mean.

 

[Glow]

The taking you in is more of a simple being present where she is attentive to you already. Eg managed by a well-positioned hover, a move in or mingle. Or other attention gaining moves eg using gestures. Moving hands, feet in the rim of her focal line of vision to ignite feelings or sensual invites. etc etc. Also look at her true receptiveness to you atm. engage from that point not that she migh perv a lil at you.

Vibe bombs are vibes that Contrast the environment creating a strong impact. its a sorta drama move to play with catching her attention and getting her to react to you.
Then you diffuse it by switching to a good counter vibe that make her feel uhh, opening... one that diffuses her response to the bomb and ignites a better one..
cozy explains it here in detail

Then you position your body language in her direction much like a cat aware of her presence - girls do this a lot to us and its a better indicator of interest than all this ai ioi thinking imo which i find oversimplifies things and removes attention from the finer nuances of the way women omit signals.

Then you allow things to awake between you - this is how some strong levels of attraction works through gentle attentiveness and doing less - and make the next move.

its an attention capture move

you can also amp up full sexual tension and intent and hit her. has a similar striking effekt like a laser guided missile. Or move in juicy with club girls that are in heightened sexual activation.. more prone to react drawn vs withdrawing to sensual displays.

There are many levels of setting up vibes to affect the girls. Consider others yourself... look for them, pay attention with this new lens of increased detail.

 

[topcat]

@Glow i like this style of preapproaching and subtle influence . it resonates with me and i’ll be applying it to my own game.

I can’t help but wonder however, how one might apply it to moving sets, on the street for instance.

Say i see a hottie walking up ahead, how might one adapt this covert influence? or is it simply a matter of a standard direct-ish approach and working the numbers game, where this smooth style doesn’t apply? simply a lower odds move by it’s very nature

cheers

 

[Will_V]

@Glow i like this style of preapproaching and subtle influence . it resonates with me and i’ll be applying it to my own game.

I can’t help but wonder however, how one might apply it to moving sets, on the street for instance.

Say i see a hottie walking up ahead, how might one adapt this covert influence? or is it simply a matter of a standard direct-ish approach and working the numbers game, where this smooth style doesn’t apply? simply a lower odds move by it’s very nature

cheers

Really like the post from @Glow.

I find that over a medium to long distance when approaching a girl walking toward you, a slow, slightly exaggerated sensual walk usually gets her attention and decent IOIs from a long distance, such as pulling her hair forward over the shoulder or veering off a bit toward you.

Other than that the only one I use is what I call the 'indulgent smile' which is a faint smile that is probably best described as a mix of curiosity, pleasure and condescension. It is ambiguous enough to suck in her attention and playful enough to be fun for her.

 

[Rakehell]

I can’t help but wonder however, how one might apply it to moving sets, on the street for instance.

Say i see a hottie walking up ahead, how might one adapt this covert influence? or is it simply a matter of a standard direct-ish approach and working the numbers game, where this smooth style doesn’t apply? simply a lower odds move by it’s very nature

cheers

@topcat

Yeah i’m very intrigued with @Glow ‘s posts. Despite the fact that I doubt i’d be able to pull it off in those fast paced situations I asked about in the original post. Those situations where I miss the approach window. Since it seems, at-least by how im interpreting his posts, she has to be transfixed somewhere. Say at a bus stop or waiting in line.

Despite it being a slight derail It’s a welcomed one. I feel like @DarkKnight pretty much hit the nail on the head for me about disregarding social frame altogether and approaching anyway in fast situations.

 

[Glow]

Sorry for the misread. i didnt see the *in passing* part.

if its truly an ai she should be positive and you should just reengage her. A strong engagement aka an escalation of things, is not a loss of social frame. Escalation is attractive if done right and if you had a proper ai it would be a slight moment between you which would naturally support that you open her. Thus increasing the potential for something assuming you own the next stages.

I would not run, just pace faster than her walking, be determined and tap her on the shoulder.. then i would prob open more direct using the ai and the state of connection i felt from it by articulating the shared vibe or engaging her from her vibe which a proper ai would give to me. This will make the ai-moment you had real and make that the starting point.

Just make it a strong confident move. Ignore the putting her on the spot thought. You want if your cool, confident and smooth.

 

[Rakehell]

Thanks Glow you’ve filled this thread with some really nice shit. My perception has definitely gotten wider.

 

[Skills]

In situations where you’re in passing and you get a quick IOI, but are too slow to react and the girl goes about what she’s doing. Is there a way to salvage the approach without ruining the social frame?

When I miss a super quick window to approach i’m reluctant to go back and engage because I feel like it’d set the wrong precedent early on.

Which is cool there’s a million more girl’s, but on day’s where there haven’t been many prospects I could really use a smooth way to approach without putting her on the spot too bad.

Thanks in advance.

Actually this happens to me a lot in day game (cause i don't really actively do day game), but i personally love it, cause now i can go with more confidence into the interactions.... See how i view things vs how you view things

my thinking- if i re- engage it will be likely it high odds interactions cause she gave me an ai all i need to do is open...

you if i re- engage the interaction is going to go bad cause somehow i think i missed the opportunity...


^ actually your scenario is my favorite way to open is very similar to the hit and run opener

" hey i saw you passing by earlier but i was in a hurry to work or school or gym but i said fucked it i need to come back and meet that girl if not i would be at work, gym, school kicking myself for not introducing myself ot the girl from the mall or the girl with the blue shorts or the girl with the curly her, i am sunking" something like this... with a lot of acting.. as you are delivering you are reading her vibe and body language openers is just to buy time and gauge reactions...

in clubs when the girls are looking at you, you don't really open them right away most of the times.. I personally like them to see me interacting before i open them to get a feel for me...

 

[Will_V]

So I did something I don't normally do today and ran after a gorgeous woman perkily strutting away with coffee in hand. Passed her, waved and smiled.

She was married, but very much enjoyed the approach.

Just be smooth gentlemen! You probably just need to be a bit more effusive to match the energy of the approach. But remember laying claim to what's yours is sexy, going all in and putting it on the line is attractive if you're going to have fun either way.

 

[Just a Man]

She was married, but very much enjoyed the approach.

The fact that a woman is married often has very little to do with whether she's interested. Some married women will simply enjoy the compliment and not let you go anywhere with it. Some are very open to escalation. Judging the difference is an area that I'm rusty on but starting to look at once again.

 

[Will_V]

The fact that a woman is married often has very little to do with whether she's interested. Some married women will simply enjoy the compliment and not let you go anywhere with it. Some are very open to escalation. Judging the difference is an area that I'm rusty on but starting to look at once again.

Well I don't think married women are generally open to being seduced but they can certainly be gotten depending on their circumstances. It's possible this one could have - she was dressed in a gym outfit so she was working on herself. I usually don't press further after hearing about boyfriend/husband though unless I'm really in the mood.

 

[Just a Man]

Well I don't think married women are generally open to being seduced but they can certainly be gotten depending on their circumstances.

I'm certainly not querying this particular case: you were there, I wasn't. And I very much enjoyed and agree with your overall message here of just being buoyant and going for it in a charming way (if I've understood rightly). I totally and completely agree with that. "Just be smooth gentlemen!" is, to my mind, the absolutely correct rallying cry. I more or less try to keep that metaphorically tatooed on my head and my heart.

Buuuut, that said, I actually think a very hefty percentage of married women actually are open to being seduced and/or gotten. I'm intrigued if you had a material difference in mind there.

General note: I think 4+ years of marriage starts to open up a lot of intrigue, statistically.

 

[Just a Man]

A quick follow-on observation: approximately 50% of married women are actually divorcees-in-the-making. Just calculate the pool there. Are they all card-carrying faithful spouses until the decree comes through? Lol.

 

[Will_V]

And I very much enjoyed and agree with your overall message here of just being buoyant and going for it in a charming way (if I've understood rightly). I totally and completely agree with that. "Just be smooth gentlemen!" is, to my mind, the absolutely correct rallying cry. I more or less try to keep that metaphorically tatooed on my head and my heart.

Absolutely! It's a question of coherence. If you come running in with a neutral face it looks weird. If you come running in looking remotely aggressive, good luck getting her to stop! What I did and it seemed to work reasonably well was to have a combination of effusive positivity and a somewhat 'abashed' expression (like I knew it was slightly embarrassing but I just couldn't miss the chance), and I dipped my head as she looked at me. Dashing, charming, a bit awkward but who cares?

The other thing about it was that I saw her walking into the coffee shop and hung around for a bit outside so I could greet her when she left. But she walked out too quickly for me to react, and made eye contact. I was going to let her go but then as I looked at her perfect Eastern buttocks disappearing I thought why the hell not, just go anyway and enjoy the moment.

Buuuut, that said, I actually think a very hefty percentage of married women actually are open to being seduced and/or gotten. I'm intrigued if you had a material difference in mind there.

General note: I think 4+ years of marriage starts to open up a lot of intrigue, statistically.

I've never had a married woman. It's not something I aspire to, though I would take a woman who belonged to me.

I don't know. There's a difference between being open to being seduced and enjoying a bit of flirting. The latter comes relatively comfortably to married women because they don't believe it will end up going anywhere.

My estimation is that it's far easier to take a married women straight home than it would be to seduce her via texts and dates. She might do it impulsively but I doubt when she's looking at your texts there and wondering if she should reply that she's going to easily go ahead, even if she was a bit unhappy with her relationship. The potential for regret and reputation damage is huge.