FR Missed opportunities

[jdoc]

Feels good to be back on the boards!

To kick things off, I'll just say that I'm a short, skinny, 20 year old Asian dude. I'm 5'5, and based on my appearances alone, I'm definitely not the type women swoon for. I've never been on an instant date, and have only slept with one girl in my life.

Today was a really interesting experience for me. I was out doing approaches at around 10pm, and I noticed a girl staring vacantly at a window of a closed shop for about a minute. She then walked off reasonably slowly. I was with my friend at this point, and all I was thinking was that she needed to be approached. I ran up towards her, just as she entered a side-street. I opened.

Me: (slowly) Excuse me... hi! I just noticed you had really cool style and I figured I'd pay you a compliment.
Her: (absolute silence for 2 seconds, as she stares intently into my eye)

It's on.

Me: (really slow) I'm Jeff (raise my hand up really slowly to shake hers), what's your name?
Her: (scanning between my eyes and lips intensely) Hi Jeff, I'm Maria.

Don't really remember much about the rest of the conversation - kind of got lost in each others eyes. Turns out she's from Lithuania, looked around mid-20s, in Melbourne for a business trip, she mentioned that after her business conference, she spent the rest of her day exploring the city, and wanted to visit the Yarra river before she left. The overall atmosphere of the conversation was oozing with sexual tension - although she did break eye contact several times to look down at the ice cream that she was eating. At some point I decide to wrap up the conversation and exchange details. She asked me what I was doing for the rest of the night, to which I said, just about to go home - I also mentioned being with the friend I was with.

Me: Ah well hey, you seem like a pretty cool gal. I'd love to grab some coffee with you some time.
Her: Yes, that would be good!
Me: Yeah, that could be fun! Let me add you on Facebook. (whip out my phone)
Her: Oh, I don't have Facebook...
Me: Ah right on. Well why don't we exchange numbers then? We'll arrange something next week.
Her: Oh I won't be here next week...
Me: When are you leaving?
Her: Tomorrow.
Me: Ah... okay.
Her: But yeah, we could go to grab coffee by the Yarra river!
Me: Ah, that's a shame, I'm with my friend at the moment.

After I said that last line, I'd come to realise what I'd just done. She was a girl, who was bored and looking for an adventure during her final night in Melbourne. I then realised that, she gave me a HUGE escalation window, and was probably looking for someone to steal off into the night with. Not quite wanting to let her go, I continued on with the conversation, and we landed on the subject of the ice cream she was eating. She offered me some with her spoon. At some point afterwards, we said goodbye to each other, which also incidentally turned out to be the height of the interaction. Felt like we were both lost in each other's eyes.

Me: What was your name again?
Her: Maria.
(we shake hands, and she kind of rests her relaxed hand on my hand, as I hold and caress it. Eye contact is piercing.)
Me: Do you remember my name?
Her: Jeff.
Me: Right. (pause) Well... Maria. It was... really... nice... to meet you.
Her: (still holding hands) Yeah...you... as well.

I walked off, thinking: What have I done...

Turns out my buddy would've been completely cool about me ditching him for an instant date, and he was a little bit astonished that I stayed to keep hanging with him. We ended up trying to find her again so that I could "bump" into her again. Interestingly enough, we ended up finding her, but as I crossed to the other side of the street to play into the façade of coincidentally bumping into her, I lost her... for the second time that night.

Still pretty annoyed about what happened. This is the first time something like this has ever happened to me.

In hindsight, there were several escalation windows:
1) She was scanning between my eyes and lips intensely.
2) She allowed me, a complete stranger to taste her ice cream with her own spoon.
3) She suggested grabbing coffee we went for coffee then and there at 10pm.
4) Piercing eye contact.
5) Just as we were parting ways, it was clearly that we didn't want to leave each other. Almost felt like it was an emotional goodbye you see in dramatic movies.

But despite this failed opportunity, this whole thing for me was a pretty big ego booster. As I'm not a conventionally attractive dude, this whole situation told me that I was in fact attractive enough that a girl wanted to bang after having just met me. In the past this idea seemed pretty elusive to me, but today I've received proof of it. So there's that.

Thanks for reading!

 

[PrettyDecent]

Re: FR/FU: Missed opportunities

jdoc!

Yeah, there's no doubt that your fundamentals were on point with this chick. When you've hit the point where girls are shocked that you would actually come up to them, that means you're in the 'swing of things', and you're rolling with a pretty sexually enticing vibe.

If I were you, I'd really be testing my boundaries (I'm not referring to this specific FR, but seduction in general). The advantage you have here is that you don't need to approach as many girls as normal fellas do (e.g. instead of having to approach 50 girls to find one that's interested to sleep with you quickly, you may only need to approach 15; which you could do in one day).

So here's an assignment that I think would really aid in your learning curve: start going for same day lays. Generally, these are going to be girls who are staying in a hotel in the city, just like the girl you had here. If you're going out for a round of day game, just grab numbers from the chicks who don't have good logistics so you can arrange something later, and focus on trying to find a girl that day who has good logistics.

A few cool benefits:

1. Mathematically, you'll have more escalations, making you more comfortable and skilled in closing
2. You get the added benefit of racked up compliance that you don't keep when there's a break between meeting and a date.
3. Same day lays are EASIER to get laid by than going on a "date" first; there's probably a few reasons for this, but one of them definitely have to do with the context that a date has, which is putting you in 'boyfriend' territory.

Case in point: my first 5 or so lays all came from same day escalations. I didn't get laid from a date until almost half a year after I was getting solid results in same day escalations. Its a powerful tool for racking up sexual experience quickly - and it comes from interactions just like this report!

~Nick

 

[jdoc]

Re: FR/FU: Missed opportunities

Yo wassup gangster!

Yeah, there's no doubt that your fundamentals were on point with this chick. When you've hit the point where girls are shocked that you would actually come up to them, that means you're in the 'swing of things', and you're rolling with a pretty sexually enticing vibe.

Haha yeah! After a whole day of approaches and feeling that I was talking too much (been working too long in sales perhaps), I decided to tone my vibe down way back, and talk slower and allow the chemistry to work its magic. Definitely one of my better approaches

If I were you, I'd really be testing my boundaries (I'm not referring to this specific FR, but seduction in general). The advantage you have here is that you don't need to approach as many girls as normal fellas do (e.g. instead of having to approach 50 girls to find one that's interested to sleep with you quickly, you may only need to approach 15; which you could do in one day).

Never really occurred to me before! But definitely makes a ton of sense. I feel like my approaches feel way too routine - approaching, deep-diving, trying to amp up sexual tension, and exchanging numbers. To be honest, it feels kinda stale now, as if something's missing. Definitely would be interested in stretching those boundaries, but I'm not sure how to do that. Any words of wisdom?

So here's an assignment that I think would really aid in your learning curve: start going for same day lays. Generally, these are going to be girls who are staying in a hotel in the city, just like the girl you had here. If you're going out for a round of day game, just grab numbers from the chicks who don't have good logistics so you can arrange something later, and focus on trying to find a girl that day who has good logistics.

Definitely need to try this sometime, particularly with gals where the sexual chemistry is oozing. Usually I just mention grabbing coffee sometime in the following week, and we exchange contact information. Was thinking that I should try figuring out her schedule for the rest of the day - maybe try an instant then and there while the chemistry is still fresh.

A few cool benefits:

1. Mathematically, you'll have more escalations, making you more comfortable and skilled in closing
2. You get the added benefit of racked up compliance that you don't keep when there's a break between meeting and a date.
3. Same day lays are EASIER to get laid by than going on a "date" first; there's probably a few reasons for this, but one of them definitely have to do with the context that a date has, which is putting you in 'boyfriend' territory.

Seems spot on Nick!

- Jeff