Most girls won't cheat and are trustworthy

[ProblemSolving]

I absolutely agree that most women are trustworthy and won't cheat. However, it is very crucial to understand the type of woman you're dealing with and the environment in which you meet them. Talk to a guy that does primarily night game or online game and he will tell you the exact opposite - women WILL cheat and can't be trusted. It's like a guy that only fishes in muddy ponds saying all fish are catfish. Do some daygame and you can find super sexy women that will treat you like gold. It's like fishing in the ocean - you catch tons of different kinds of fish.

I don't believe young girls or girls that dress sexy or wear a lot of make up are high risk. In fact, the only girls that I consider for LTRs are these kinds of girls haha. If you keep a girl chasing there is nothing to worry about. This is where the majority of guys screw up. Over time scarcity kicks in and they chase, and instead of pulling back and making her invest more, they keep chasing until his sweet princess cheats on him. In that case, the guy shares some of the blame for not paying attention to the health of the realationship. As a man you have to be the captain and course correct when it's needed.

 

[ray_zorse]

If you keep a girl chasing there is nothing to worry about.

This. There's also the small matter of being dominant and bossing her around (i.e. remaining attractive), and making sure she gets a lot of orgasms (no incentive to cheat). I believe Franco nailed it in this post, specifically the following quotes:

What you're missing here is the element of you -- women always have a solid level of abundance, but they always feel like they are lacking absolute abundance. Essentially, you're downplaying how much of an amazing man she sees you as.

Don't devalue the man this website teaches you to become. It's part of the reason we often tell guys to not hurt girls here -- we know that we are the best out there. =)

Not something I would have anticipated if you'd told me about it a year ago, haha.
Ray

 

[trashKENNUT]

radeng,

Very hard to say really. I believe a 30/70. but my opinion is just another. So yea, 30/70 ration with long term 40/60.

Zac

 

[Drck]

It is definitely interesting topic, and it is probably more complex that it seems.

How do I know whether she cheats - if she doesn't sleep with me? She may sleep with somebody else, I just have no clue... At the same time, she may not cheat at all... She just wouldn't say...

Personally I don't believe that girls who are dressed to kill, have lots of make up, respond strongly to teasing, is very talkative with strangers and so fort is more open to cheating. It would make perfect sense because it is logical, true, but the experience suggest otherwise. There is lots of girls like that who only crave the attention, who are looking for a good time, some teasing and fun - but really have no intention to sleep with you... Which is really quite frustrating, because she is just a big teaser, attention wh*re... My impression is that many of these girls are looking for Reactions, not Results...

On the other hand, there are girls that dress more casually and appear rather more conservative, yet they are giving you clear signs of interest. You'll obviously miss it if you are not looking for these windows and are confused about the 'casual' appearance...

Girls also have 'multiple personalities', so to speak. Not in a bad way but rather they change their behavior based on their mood, and also depending where they are at that time...

Example: Met a hotty at work a while ago, suggested that I am interested. Was totally blown off, just negative responses, total brick wall. She was very nice but totally closed off, she appeared as one of those nice, naive, happy/silly girl who is just looking for a great BF/Husband. Oh well, not a chance. Haven't seen her couple of months, then I go see my friend, and she joins us as she was rather his really good friend. You wouldn't believe this girl, it was just total opposite. Sex this and sex that, I don't mean just little hints, she was literally talking full blown sex for minutes. I have no doubt she would be open to group sex, what can I tell you, 180 degree in opposite direction, like a total nympho... I wouldn't say that I was shocked, but it was a jaw dropping experience... Two totally opposite behaviors in one girl, just different place and different mood...

You know, what is also happening is, she is keeping you as a friend on her FB. You are just a guy, just a face in her stupid book. Then she meets a guy who fits her BF image, so she starts dating him. However, before she adds him as a BF to FB - she deletes every potential male competition from her FB. The guy (current BF) doesn't even have a clue that she had previous male friends, and I'm not even talking about lovers... With little bit of smiles and sweet words, she could easily make it seem that she is a virgin... I'm telling you, you just can't even make that sh*t up...

Another pretty girl, totally conservative for years. I know her from years ago, tried to date her when I was younger, needless to say I was rejected. I also know from my friends who tried to get her that she wasn't sleeping around with anyone, she was pretty faithful. So I met her again, but this time my skills are upgraded like way above skills of average guy. I destroyed that conservatism, opened her up, she even told me that she no longer wants to be honest... HUH?

The very peculiar thing is, that she mentioned several times that she considered sex as her duty. Simply like a 'job' that you have to do in order to keep the relationship running. HUH? She simply didn't enjoy sex at all. I'm mentioning this because I've noticed this behavior on more females, they simply do not enjoy much of the physical act of sex, they prefer more of emotional connection (love). We obviously know that the physical act can be improved with skills, but it just shows us that there is lots of women out there who just sleep with their BF's and husband for the sake of being together, not because they like sex. This also explains (sort of) why there is less and less sex in marriage. Husband could fuck several times per week with no problem, yet she is rather pulling away - as she doesn't really enjoy it that much...

I also met beautiful Latino girl, she was all as described above: Flirty, hot, teasing, talkative with strangers and so fort... She wanted sex, I just know. You would think that it would be relatively easy lay. Fuck no. This and that, more teasing, more denial, she wanted more and more love (and reactions)... Then she simply told me pretty much the same - that she doesn't really enjoy sex. HUH??? Latina doesn't enjoy sex???


So, IMO it is really difficult to say, there is lots of generalization... IMO just because girl acts sexy and appears to be open to it, it doesn't really mean that she wants sex. At the same time, casual/conservative girl who may not signal any sex at all, might prove you to be nympho you would never guessed...

 

[Rage]

My experience aligns with yours Radeng, and I look up to the guys who have traversed the whole pickup lifestyle into later years who are 30s 40s 50s and older who settled down at some point, but who more importantly in talking with them: have nothing to say about women but good things. THey'll say there are good women and bad women out there just as there are all sorts of people in the world who do good or bads things; but they hold no bitterness against women, have no hositlity or resentment in their hearts against women. They only have love, warmth and a bundle of cherished memories with women that either stuck around for a long time, or that were there for a night of great sex and gone with the wind, consequently after.

Number of factors probably go into whether guys see girls negatively or positively, as generally untrustowrthy or generally truthworthy (personal biochemistry, upbringing and devlopmental psychology, experiences with the type of women they have pursued, what their own game has been like and how theyve developed that... and many other things I'm sure). Because of this i reckon that the perspectives on the topic will be across the board potentially, and sure: every person is entitled to have his opinions and believe whatever he decides to believe/feel the way he chooses to feel.

I choose to have a healthier paradigm about women, and find and follow the footsteps of mentors who have the same; being healthy in my mind and heart I'll search for and tend to run into women who are the same. Will I get fucked over or cheated on in my lifetime? Perhaps; but that doesnt have to (and I don't predict that it will) change how I feel now about women. I can choose how I feel about that, along every step of the way...

Rage

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hi DrexelScott,

Karma is real,

That's like saying my dick is bigger than yours. Anyway, this is the self coming out from me. You say karma is real but you are now a different point in your life. You were in the abyss and now you come out of it. Just like me, here is me trying to better than you by saying this. Anyway...

p.s: I realize that i clash with Chase when we are talking and we thread on knowing vs walking the path. The key here is acknowledging this two sides, which is a funny thing people never talk often.

We should explore this area.

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

DrexelScott,

when you are the guy with all the right moves and the right vibe with some other guy's girlfriend or wife...and you try to get a girlfriend or wife later on...trust me, you will notice all the guys with the right moves and the right vibe talking to your girl, and you will know how quickly things can happen. It can leave you in a state of constant paranoia. It is best just to stick to single girls, though I am being hypocritical at the moment because all of my favorite flings were with "taken" women. Women in open relationships make the best lovers by far, IMO.

Yea..

"Right moves, Right vibe, Right time, Right location". And being hypocritical. but just to share what i share in the other post. I banging my head against the wall because people will never understand.

Will i touch married or women in relationships? I probably will, now. Here's why
Postby ZacAdam » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:42 pm

The title can draw a lot of personal morals.

But here's one thing for certain. I believe just as similarly as what Chase noted in his "Girl has a boyfriend, 3 things to do, 7 things not to do".

People from outside, those who probably haven't been meeting lots of girls and only see a small amount of experiences, will come up and say "Zac, you a homewreck", "Zac, you a motherfucker". Here's the thing, People who don't know, talk a lot, and People who like to speak on their own behalf and turn on their words when sex is represent in front of them.

Don't believe me? I see "religious" friends turn back their words on me. I have friends who are so up on their own ass on moral superiority. Guess what? They do otherwise.

So many times, i have had countless opportunities to cheat with girls in relationships, even those you think are in love with their partner. and i let it pass, only to see the girl hook up with someone else, on the same night, days later, or weeks later. She breaks up with the boyfriend. For me, my own personal reason, i want to cheat with girls who are in relationships. Because unlike other guys, i have the knowledge to know what i am getting into. I cannot say it is an absolute that i can enter any situations and come out on top ("Come out on top" means handling the situation well), but i know i have the knowledge. You might say "Oh, you just making excuse".

Exactly, It is an "excuse", because it really is an "excuse". Unlike most guys, whom preach morals and then found themselves with another women. Let me end this here. "I might as well sleep with the girl before you do!"

"Morals" on a definition level are varying, are the hardest part to accept. Just like religious people try to scare an atheist into his own ideology by using the reasoning that he doesn't have a proper burial place. It's the same thing with people. We all have our own ideology, and we preach it, but when the actual day or the actual sex is presented in front of you, My question to all of humanity....

Will you walk away? If you do, Good. If you don't, It's all good too.

Zac

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

DrexelScott,

Do let me know what you are saying. If i am not mistaken, You are telling me that

1)it is best to avoid married girls or girls in relationships.
2)You are hypocritical
3)I am justifying an opportunity.
4)People have to go through the journey

I have girls who have boyfriends, boyfriends who are my acquaintances before, who liked me, or girls whom i know loved their boyfriends. Like i said in my previous post, they want to fuck. I have cousins who want to fuck, too just so you know. It is not always opportunistic where i chase down the girl, and you are at a different point in your life but i am here, looking at the thing itself. So do i disappoint her or do i disappoint the boyfriends, the relatives if they ever found i fuck my cousins...? This are things people will always see at surface level and they will let their emotions run wild but i am glad you noted the hypocrisy you did and we agreed that we have to go through a journey.

I want to tell you that people lie. People lie while they date married women/women with relationships. People deny their 'adventurous self' but The idea is They go for what is beneficial to them, almost every time.

Take the Syrian refugees for example, or any Middle East, or the recent news on Arab Prince who assaulted women in Los Angeles. They just fleeing to US and Europe to get opportunities. They just getting what they want. Middle East guys/foreigners in general... are party animals? date white girls? I noted this among internet commenters. There is an element of truth in statement.

You noted that it can bite you in the ass later. I understand that.

However, this is like a child saying "God will punish for your crimes" while he is powerless. Again, like my previous post that noted, I am justifying an opportunistic fuck, but given the fact i have dismiss countless opportunities, it would be unfair to me to dismiss more. This is what my ego says although my actions don't reflect it, even today. Maybe because of my past religious nice guy background..

I hope that you have an eye to pull the brakes and not judge them sometimes.

Zac

 

[Franco]

Zac,

You noted that it can bite you in the ass later. I understand that.

However, this is like a child saying "God will pay for your crimes" while he is powerless. Again, like my previous post that noted, I am justifying an opportunistic fuck, but given the fact i have dismiss countless opportunities, it would be unfair to me to dismiss more. This is what my ego says although my actions don't reflect it, even today. Maybe because of my past religious nice guy background..

I believe he's pointing more at the fact that, if you involve yourself in sleeping with "taken" girls on a regular basis, then you yourself will become jaded by the idea of being monogamous with a girl. Since you've helped so many women cheat on men, you'll begin to think that women themselves are "evil" creatures, and you'll never believe that a monogamous relationship with them is possible because they will always want to cheat. This is where it "bites" you in the ass because it will blind you from realizing that, as a man who can lead, you can have much more control over the relationship than you might realize. It's just a matter of understanding what women are looking for out of a man in a monogamous relationship, and then being able to become that man.

- Franco

 

[trashKENNUT]

Franco,

if you involve yourself in sleeping with "taken" girls on a regular basis, then you yourself will become jaded by the idea of being monogamous with a girl. Since you've helped so many women cheat on men, you'll begin to think that women themselves are "evil" creatures, and you'll never believe that a monogamous relationship with them is possible because they will always want to cheat. This is where it "bites" you in the ass because it will blind you from realizing that, as a man who can lead, you can have much more control over the relationship than you might realize. It's just a matter of understanding what women are looking for out of a man in a monogamous relationship, and then being able to become that man.

I believe i can be jaded too.

But i just want to note the article from Chase "Girl Has a Boyfriend? 3 Things to Do, and 7 Things NOT to", and he himself noted on people he knew who give married women sex because their husbands is just playing the provider role.

I only see "cheating" in early stages for those married women.
sidenote for boyfriend, not husband: some even openly checking me out when their boyfriends looks away!

- Women who hold their daughters hand and checking me out way before i notice them.
- Some of them even openly checking me out with their daughters beside them
- Women don't mention their boyfriends/husbands with me as much when we first meet

I firmly believe screening and learn what your girlfriend is looking for in a relationship, as you said, is highly important. Partner counts, too. but i will not be surprised, at all if cheating ever happens in my relationships. I am not paranoid, although i am annoyed that things always mess up. I know how things work and in the back of my head, i get that we all just want to win.

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

DrexelScott,

The lie i mean here isn't exactly the definition.. It is denying.

But i'm glad we share that everyone has to walk through a journey.

Other than that, we are mutual. that's normal

Zac

 

[Drck]

Some girls are prettier, others are uglier... Some cheat and sleep with many guys, others are very faithful, they will never cheat even with the sexiest guy... Some will never care about you no matter what you do, others will love you - should you give them the opportunity... It is what it is regardless what we think about it and what are our rigid believes...

We are not machines, we are humans. There are no magic buttons to press that would make girls fall in love with us, there are no magic formulas that would make her chase us, sleep with us... You feel great about her and she feels great about you, well, that is simply Love. So don't fuck it up. You feel great but she doesn't care at all - oh well, what you going to do, you can't do anything, you can't press button and make her like you more...

Sometimes you can be the best seducer she's ever met, and she won't even look at you because she's simply thinking about other things. Other times you can be just an average Joe, with no skills at all, and the girl will fall madly in love with you... Magic happened, just because you were at the right place at the right time...

Sometimes you can memorize 10,000 GC pages and still no success... Other times all you do is smile, say Hi - and simply fall in Love...

We are humans, and many times we get stuck in Victim mentality... in a steel Cage of Believes that was partially built by others... and partially by ourselves... We get bitter, we do passive aggressive things while denying it... we believe we deserve more than we worked for, we think we know much better than others, we even seek furious vengeance while pretending to be cool...

Sometimes we can feel tremendous guilt for things we've never done... we can feel Hate towards things that don't fit into our minds... other times we have high expectations that others fail to fulfil in our eyes, as they simply see the World under different colors than the ours... Another times we are get angry, mad, just because we don't do as well as we think we deserve...

And we feel sorry for ourselves, we play the "Poor Me, I am so Unique that Nobody can understand Me, I am so special" role over and over, we are convincing ourselves that we are so different than the others... or we try to teach those we should be learning from...

Another times we try to fit the whole World into "My Box", while we don't realize that "My Box" is simply way too small, much smaller than our Great Mind... Maybe our Ego is way above our Heads, maybe we just think we are way smarter than we really are, we think that we can fool Nature... Can we really? Maybe we are just hoping that we deserve things we did nothing for...

There are two ways to practice with girls: One way is to fake smile thousands of times before you learn it, and the other is to simply smile. Guess which one is much better...

And That is Life, at times it just sucks... But you know, it can be better than that. We don't have to play Victims. We don't have to fuck somebody else GF just to feel satisfied, because somebody else screwed with our Life. We don't have to play the "Poor Me, I deserve much better" mantra... We deserve sh*t, nobody owes us anything... And there is always plenty of space to Respect other guys, and their girls no matter how they are, what they do, who they sleep with and how many times... if not because of our own morals, perhaps just because we don't want them to do the same onto us... after all, we are all just humans...

Life is huge, Life happened to us... and it doesn't always have to fit into "My Box"...

 

[trashKENNUT]

Just in case,

I do not play the victim and i do not expect Drexel to understand. I want to show life as it is. I want to play the devil's advocate, although i have decline women in relationships in the past and recent... But life is consciousness that needs an expression. Thus, people feel so angry when i tell them as it is.

Because if you left with as it is, where is the consciousness going to?

But forget the BS above. I get my notes. That's bonus... although you can say my consciousness needs to express through that 'bonus' of having notes that i just made because i feel nothing more to express and feeling annoyed is just the sum equation of how human work.

Thought + Love/Hate

Zac