Moving fast...and ACTUALLY Closing?

[monsterslimjim]

I have been reading posts on Girls Chase for a while and implemented some of the tools and techniques I read about. For example, I changed certain things about my eye contact, my posture, and other non-verbals. These tips helped tremendously. I was getting numbers and meeting girls left and right. My face-to-face verbal skills are pretty quality so I could maintain conversation and command fairly easily. But when I try to take things to the next level, it gets bumpy.

Overcoming the anxiety to go in for a kiss was fairly difficult, but I got over it after a few awkward tries. But I find myself in some great situations where I have a girl alone and I go in for the spontaneous or romantic kiss, and the girls eat it up. They kiss me like crazy and then our alone time gets interrupted after a while. But that is the problem. I am JUST kissing. I am missing the opportunity to move things farther faster.

But now I need to figure out how to move things farther faster. I want more, but I just cant seem to figure out the right way to transition from kissing to anything else.

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated as I am open to trying any new techniques.

Thanks,
Monsterslimjim

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hi Monsterslimjim,

I read that you want to move fast with women. This will help.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/book-excerpts-mastering-sexual-touch

Chase wrote a few excerpts from his book.

Zac

 

[monsterslimjim]

Thanks Zac! I guess it's hard for women to resist when you are kissing more than just their lips haha. I am definitely going to try this out next time.

-Monsterslimjim

 

[AFCnoob]

Turns out kissing a girl outside of a "seduction location" or when you can't get to one quickly greatly hurts your chances of closing with her. I used to think I was golden if I could get a girl to kiss me, but it turns out it's just the opposite. I went through a short period where I was kissing girls left and right, it got to the point where we'd be kissing within 5 minutes of starting to talk, we'd be all over each other--really sensual stuff, and then nothing would happen (lol).

It seems like kissing is pretty passionate/exciting for girls, and they can "fill up" on it, especially if you're not able to escalate further at whatever location you happen to be in. Sometimes girls misunderstand, and think you---just like to kiss, especially if we're talking about prolonged "making out", which is a slippery slope into long-term/BF land. Not only this, but it strengthens the frame that you are "chasing" the girl if you initiate the kiss. I won't be initiating kisses with girls in public venues anymore (if I ever start interactions again...) unless it is to start escalation toward a close.

This may not be useful, but I sometimes have to remind myself when I go out:

My ultimate objective is not to meet a girl.
My ultimate objective is not to get good reactions from a girl.
My ultimate objective is not to get a girl's number.
My ultimate objective is not to move a girl to a different venue/location.
My ultimate objective is not to kiss a girl.
My ultimate objective is not to take a girl home.
All of those things may be critical steps toward my ultimate objective, but that objective is to close with this girl, as soon as I can possibly bring that about.

It seemed silly, but I sometimes lose focus of that ultimate objective, and start putting a lot of effort into those other things (even when I didn't have to!), or focusing on them and losing sight of the ultimate end. Reminding myself of that ultimate end helps a lot.

Also, on a technical game/logistics note: it seems like it's not really advantageous to be seen kissing a girl in a public venue, especially if you frequent it (oops, I've done this a lot too).

 

[trashKENNUT]

I used to think I was golden if I could get a girl to kiss me, but it turns out it's just the opposite.

i think this is where everyone dies here before, just like in an arcade game. HAHAHA!

It seemed silly, but I sometimes lose focus of that ultimate objective,

Yeap, i can agree i have that. Let work on it people.

Zac

 

[The Tool]

From personal experience I find It easy to get past kissing while you are making out on your bed, couch, wherever you can be on top of her to place your knee right up against her vaginal area with firm pressure this gets her excited and primed, I then go for body touching not going for over the shirt or under the shirt first but the legs and her inner thighs caressing them and rubbing them then going for vaginal stimulation outside the pants then going in with my hands. if she says "behave" or makes a noise that shes not ready for that take a step back and go to just making out, then start the process again and see if she takes. (this is stated in one of chases posts on the website but im short of time and dont want to post the link, but this works wonders for getting past making out)

Cheers, The Tool

 

[monsterslimjim]

if she says "behave" or makes a noise that shes not ready for that take a step back

This actually happens to me a lot. Where I will get a somewhat conservative girl that is OK with kissing, but seems like kissing is all shes comfortable with at the moment. And Im not usually on the couch or on a bed when Im going for the spontaneous kiss; Im usually somewhere more public. But when I lead a girl to a bathroom or a stairwell, I still cant seem to take things farther.

-Monsterslimjim

 

[The Tool]

hmm bathroom or stairwell. personally I rarely try to physically escalate anywhere other than mine or the womans place or our vehicals. I do not even kiss a woman before bringing her to one of those locations for It is much easier to escalate further in private then places where people can walk by or spy in. How many women would honestly have sex in a stairwell or a bathroom? nymps perhaps or a girl with an extremely kinky side?(im sure chase has some stories where hes escalated in odd public places but generally it just doesnt happen). What I would do is try to get the two of you togeather at one or the others homes before escalting unless you know "ITS ON" because once you kiss her before bringing her home she knows what you are after.

Thats my insight, realatively new to the game but in 8 months I have advanced quite drastically (more than most people would). cant wait to get some years on me so I can run into situations like this.

 

[monsterslimjim]

As far as bathrooms and stairwells are concerned, that is mainly for a more public approach. Im also the kind of guy that wants it then and there. I dont like to beat around the bush(no pun intended) and I like to know whether it is on or not. Because if Im not going to get anywhere with that particular girl, why should I waste my time on her when I can find someone who will give me what Im looking for. And on a side note: Who doesnt like a nympho or a girl with an extremely kinky side?? (; haha

-Monsterslimjim

 

[The Tool]

Lol your statements are extremely valid. cant argue with you there lol. I guess its better then and there, just important to note most women are not up for it in public without getting past those walls which would be extremely tough to get through or past in public.

 

[monsterslimjim]

just important to note most women are not up for it in public without getting past those walls which would be extremely tough to get through or past in public.

I'll agree with you on that one for sure. While I am someone that likes the immediate gratification, Im not a huge fan of the public sexual escalation; but that is usually what I end up resorting to because I am still trying to refine my skills for other pickups. I always go to nightclubs (which I now hate) because 95% of the girls dancing are only there to look pretty and get hit on. It took me all the way up until the last few days to realize that. My chances of getting laid from a club girl are slim to none because she isnt there for that, she just wants the social validation that she looks hot. This would also explain why Im having a hard time getting much more than an extreme makeout session from a girl thats not trying to be brought home.

 

[Chase]

Jim-

I'll agree with you on that one for sure. While I am someone that likes the immediate gratification, Im not a huge fan of the public sexual escalation; but that is usually what I end up resorting to because I am still trying to refine my skills for other pickups. I always go to nightclubs (which I now hate) because 95% of the girls dancing are only there to look pretty and get hit on. It took me all the way up until the last few days to realize that. My chances of getting laid from a club girl are slim to none because she isnt there for that, she just wants the social validation that she looks hot. This would also explain why Im having a hard time getting much more than an extreme makeout session from a girl thats not trying to be brought home.

You CAN pull from nightclubs, they're just a difficult beast to master. Nightclubs were pretty much the only place I picked up at for my first couple of years in the game. I was also very frustrated at first, and everyone kept telling me, "Dude, do bars and do day game! You're pretty smooth once you're in conversation... bars and day game seem like they'd be the perfect environment for you!" But I got it in my head that I really, really wanted to get nightclubs down, so I did it until I had them down well enough.

Whatever game you use elsewhere, just put that on steroids in the club.

As far as girls dancing in clubs... well, think of it like this: she isn't going to dance the ENTIRE time she's at the club. Let the other guys give her dance floor validation... you just meet her when she takes a break and steps off the dance floor.

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

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