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Smiling_Stray

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Tonight I caught up with a woman I was previously in a serious relationship with (she's unavailable but we like to keep in touch, so we talk once a month or slightly longer) and I heard something that pisses me off. It's caused by something that's plagued me for a while. When we parted ways, I moved on to build a new social circle (as the old one was one I never got involved with much and she started going out with another guy in it a while after we split). However, I've learned that the old social circle pokes fun at her for having been with me before the new guy. He tells them to cut it out but they still do it whenever he's not around. This leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth for a variety of reasons.

Honestly, me and the new guy don't like each other for obvious reasons but we both want the best for her (although I don't see him going so far as to stand up for a guy that is neither present nor liked by him). Don't get the wrong idea, I'm not waiting on her. I know better than orbiting, it's the reason I keep myself so distanced from her (regardless of our social ties, extending as far as our family members). However, I'll be damned if I let something about me cause a woman I've been with grief after being with her. I want to have nothing but a profound effect on their life (aside from this, I believe that I have as far I can tell).

So I believe the problem is simple enough as it's familiar to me. I've always just been more in favor of hanging out with few people rather than large crowds or multiple groups so I never really did anything about it. But I'm tired of being looked at like I'm low in social standing, I want people be proud to have even stood next to me when I walk in a room. With me about to run off to university, this seems like the perfect time to nail this sort of thing. So, time to get a bit more popular.

So enough with backstory, here's what you need to know:


My style is very much a Brooder, although sometimes I can adapt a more talkative seduction style if I'm able to get myself in the right mood. So I tend to be more quiet day to day and follow sprezzatura religiously. My social circles (both previous and current) mainly connect and show off through social media (Instagram, if it matters), however I suck at remembering to take photos for social proof or preselection (I get very caught up in the moment) and my page doubles as my personal and professional page (I'm a writer, most of my content is significantly relevant to my personal life. I live almost as an open book). One or two of my old social circle follow my account but I don't know that it matters since it's public. Would there be any sort of posts that would serve me best in any way?

As per in person, I only spent one or two nights with the full old social circle at small college parties. As you would imagine, I was pretty quiet and kept to myself and the friends I knew somewhat better (go figure, approach anxiety plagued me during my relationship). When I did talk to the other guys it was mostly surface level shit. I later learned that my friend who originally invited me to this party (my childhood best friend) had been going to these parties since middle school and never once invited me until I got into a relationship. He apparently never even mentioned me once during that entire time to these guys (I don't consider him a close friend anymore). Anything I can do to be seen in a better light without having to do much? Again, sprezzatura is one of my best strengths. To violate it would often seem really incongruent with my actual personality.

To grossly underexplain: I'm asking what I can do to become significantly more popular and gain more fame among peers when I'm starting from a place that's less than ideal in terms of popularity?

I don't care if everyone likes me or not, I do think that having that value would be both cool and beneficial to myself and the people I choose to surround myself with though. Plus, who doesn't love to embarrass a jay crew catalog that doesn't know when to shut up every so often? Let's blow em' away and make em' turn red for talking shit. What do ya say guys? ;)

Edit: As I write this I'm currently pulling an all nighter for a college course. So if anything's unclear or makes no sense, just ask.
 
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Smiling_Stray

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Why would you possibly care what they think about you? Nothing could be a bigger waste of time. Spoiler alert: You're only going to end up with 1-4 close friends anyway, like we all do. There's people I spent 100s of nights out with in college I haven't thought about in 15 years, that's life.
Spoiler alert: I don't. That's why I said this:
I don't care if everyone likes me or not, I do think that having that value would be both cool and beneficial to myself and the people I choose to surround myself with though. Plus, who doesn't love to embarrass a jay crew catalog that doesn't know when to shut up every so often?
Popularity is not something that's ignored by the main site either. I've found some articles there on it on my own but it's always good to get advice from people who've been there, done it, and known how to do it.
 

ulrich

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I find that popularity is highly underrated.
By the time you leave college, all social dynamics change.

In any case, for a long term strategy… loose up on the sprezzatura and try to open strangers and make them feel welcome.
If you are the guy that can talk to everyone at a party, you have pretty much won at the popularity game.
 

trashKENNUT

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I have a different take on this, given how society has change dramatically and will be.

TikTok is not real life but TikTok/any platform can change anyone's perception dramatically.

It comes down to this
- Perception of
- Culture of
- The Platform that you own

You need to be the guy that can talk to anyone and be "normal" with "low value people". That's one. Distinction versus Discrimination. Two different things.

That above point is 'Perception of'.

Then you need to create culture. If i can make white people defend me as a brown guy, I have won. That's the manipulation. That's what Black lifes Matter are doing. Cultural. Manipulative. Power. Disingenuous.

That above point is culture.

Lastly, Do I own Girlschase? Do I own TikTok? Not that I own a channel. That is not enough. Do I own my.website, my own hosting, and then, do I own my property.

Can I buy off companies, politicians, because ultimately government is the authority and the stupid people are the enforcers.

That above point is 'platforms you own'.

TLDR: A lot of things I want to share but it's quite 'evil' because you literally controlling minds after a certain point in time


As I start working with more "successful" people.......



z@c+
 

Gaturro

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I think this should be a niche question.

How you can become popular in high school is different to how you can become popular in nightclubs, which is different to how you can become popular in your social circle, etc.

For example for nightclubs you should talk to everyone: befriend bouncers, bartenders, PRs, women of course, men too (only high value), you get the idea. Become a regular with good fundamentals and you’ll escalate the social ladder for sure.

As for social circle, you mentioned some parties. You can start from there. Who are the hottest girls in your college? What parties do they go to? Who hosts those parties? Can you do something for the hosts? What can they give you in exchange for that? If you own the host you own the party (kinda). Try to befriend them. At parties: Mingle, mingle, mingle.

Universities are different where I live so I can’t help you with that. But figure out who the most popular guys are and try to copy them a little bit. Remember this is for becoming popular in a niche, so there’s always a prototype of guy who is popular in every niche.

And remember, nothing you do to become popular in your niche will matter in the long term. Only a few stick around.

As for becoming popular everywhere, you can try to become a social media “influencer” or something like that. But it can backfire though.
 

trashKENNUT

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And remember, nothing you do to become popular in your niche will matter in the long term. Only a few stick around.

Yeap. Niche will get lost in the long term. So What is the difference a great marketer and a normal marketer? That you can always move out of any niche and into another niche, seamlessly.

3 Categories of Customers

- The Masses (Buys the $7 book)
- The Believers (Buys the $2000 webinar course)
- The Practitioners (Buys the subscription model/high ticket)


The Masses obeys the Rolls Royce, Rolex, Money.
The Believers obeys the posts. They share. They liked. They comment. They buy the memberships. They buy the products.
The Practitioners are the ones that enforce/non profit donation/dakwah/burn down cities.

See what i just did *points above*?

To be effective, you need to layer it properly.
To make it simple, i want you to look at any ad around you right now. Here's the layers.


"Make Money Online/Get Girls number in 5 min" = The Masses
"By Using This Facebook Ads Offer " = The Believers
"For Real Estate Agents Who are looking to get Condo leads" = The Practitioners

See what i mean?
That's how we retire our parents 20 years earlier. That's how you make half of America, believe in crazy things :)
COnsider this advice from an Asian, I just dismantle how everyone gets influexced.

z@c+
p.s: there's hyperbole in this post.
 

TomInHo

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Want to be popular?

Become exceptional at something and make sure everyone sees it.

Could be talking to strangers, playing the piano, shooting a basketball, picking up girls, selling oranges

Honestly get good at something and find ways to show your talents in front of others, and you'll become known as "THAT GUY"

Now is popularity even worth it? That's another story
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

trashKENNUT

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Now is popularity even worth it? That's another story

Hard to disagree.

The Bad side.



The Good side.

"I never once desired to have a lot of fame. But to be honest, the ideas change when it comes to a particular aspect. I now know that I need to be famous in order to bring the type of high quality that we want."

— Taeyang


p.s: I personally lean on the 'Good side' because i am forced to. I need it for a bigger reason.

z@c+
 

Smiling_Stray

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Damn, I stepped out for a few days and came back to a short story of advice. I'm gonna need a minute to get back to all ya but I did a bit of research on my own and have returned with questions.

So, it seems preselection and social proof are one and the same. This leaves me to ask does having a great amount of male friends and connections do anything for you at all? I mean, women are social creatures and obviously being popular with them is by far the best thing to aim for but I'm curious if maintaining connections with other men is really worth it. And if so, why? I mean, why not just surround yourself with just women? Can't believe it's taken me this long to ask that but I'm suddenly finding myself interacting with more women than male friends and wondering why I should even devote any energy to doing so anymore.
 

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Damn, I stepped out for a few days and came back to a short story of advice. I'm gonna need a minute to get back to all ya but I did a bit of research on my own and have returned with questions.

So, it seems preselection and social proof are one and the same. This leaves me to ask does having a great amount of male friends and connections do anything for you at all? I mean, women are social creatures and obviously being popular with them is by far the best thing to aim for but I'm curious if maintaining connections with other men is really worth it. And if so, why? I mean, why not just surround yourself with just women? Can't believe it's taken me this long to ask that but I'm suddenly finding myself interacting with more women than male friends and wondering why I should even devote any energy to doing so anymore.
Circles of men can be highly useful for professional and vocational connections. Look at this forum for example, the knowledge traded and the resulting value that provides for us. Such circles around other interests can be built offline too and can be equally valuable, if not more so. Good luck finding that in circles made up entirely of women..
 
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Smiling_Stray

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Connections with other men can be highly useful for professional and vocational connections. Look at this forum for example, the knowledge traded and the resulting value that provides for us. Such circles around other interests can be built offline too and can be equally valuable, if not more so. Good luck finding that in circles made up entirely of women..
Point taken lol Allies are good to have
 
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