It seems that many of us are describing the same thing from different point of view, and with different intention.
What is 9 out of 10 for one guy might be different for another. 10 is just an ideal, such woman would have all possible characteristics. IMO 10 doesn't exist in real life. There are very classy women, perhaps 9, who have many good characteristics including amazing looks, great personality, intelligence, good and rich family, high education, great income, good morals, excellent social skills, positive feminine energy, ... She is hard working on being successful yet still humble and relatable, and who knows what else. Can you imagine, woman like that would talk to you, make you feel important, vibe with you, even raise your ego by showing submission to you? You will loose your mind, many guys do. I did. But be careful, she has very clear picture in her mind of her ideal man, and there is a high chance that you don't fit it. In other words, she is a true human goddess, but even she still have some incomplete traits.
I agree with Drexel, those 9 mostly don't even go to the bars. Thus scale must be adjusted, depending where you stand with your qualities and success, you might want to aim 1-2 even 3 numbers lower as the most achievable female for you. She might be 9 on your achievable scale, and 5-7 on ideal scale.
Many good looking women learned to fake to be 9 so they can find good providers, the same way like many men fake to be successful men so they can fuck classy pussy. And there are many providers who will gladly take care of classy pussy. You could call most of them rich guys, but that is not entirely true either.
Those men are also classy, from her point of view they have as many positive characteristics as humanly possible (as described above), they might be more alpha-ish than most men, more successful and so on.
She is not looking for only one thing (muscle, money, looks, dominance, ...) rather the whole picture: nice looking + great personality + dominance + rich + physically fit + educated and so on. While for men is mostly important female looks, she always looks at men from different views, different dimensions.
She has a long list of characteristics and values in her head and the one who gets the most points will win. He can be her happy provider, he will be allowed to take her on a private jet to an exotic island and romantically fuck her. Of course there isn't only one list, each person values little bit different things, the items on the list might have different importance at different stages of life and so on. The closer you want to get to these classy girls as a provider the higher on the classy scale you must be yourself.
When she's younger, in early twenties, she might be looking just for something more exciting, more fun, experience, not necessary a provider. But her biological clock is ticking, and as she is getting closer to age 30 she will have to re-adjust her list and scale of her most achievable man. She might still be thinking big, but she has to eliminate some items on her list to find some good provider. She knows that most providers are stable and thus quite boring, but as she is getting older she is looking for more stability rather than fun.
Remember, she is hot and always with many men around, so everybody assumes that the older she gets the more miles she has on, and many times it is true. The problem is, that many good, nice and successful guys want low mileage, the older she is getting the less chances she has to find good provider. So the pressure is always there even when she is younger.
Either way you look at it, you will always have higher chances to be her lover and especially provider if you increase your own value by having good fundamentals, good education, good physique, good income, good personality and so on. The list is long.
For example, only by having a good education and good income you will get a regular access to places where these classy women go. Otherwise you might not get a chance at all, she just won't go to regular bars and regular places. Once you are there, you will still have have lots of competition - there always are other guys who are interested. Many of them can be both potential lovers and providers - same like you.
So say there are three other guys who are good looking like you, have the same education like you, have the same income like you, know the same PUA skills like you. Have same intelligence like you. All are are the same height, and all of you want to talk to her, all want to be her lovers.
Just say that these guys are skinny, while you have some mass because you lift weights. You weigh 30-40 pounds more, and it is not all fat. By default you are projecting physical dominance because you are working out. The other guys will clear up your space and unless they are insane they will not challenge you. They just won't, they don't have balls for it, you are projecting real physical confidence because you are stronger. They don't really get a chance to show her their characteristic, they don't get a chance to fool her with great PUA skills because you are in their way. Never mind that she knows it, it is encoded in her primitive brain to go out with guy who is physically bigger and stronger. She simply feels safer. The second she sees all four of you, you already have a tremendous advantage because you are projecting natural physical dominance over the other guys. She is already subconsciously more attracted to you because of your mass, even though she might be consciously claiming she is looking for ripped skinny guy. What a BS is this "being ripped", unbelievable propaganda. Imagine, you beat these guys and win this 9 only because you are lifting stupid weights!
So it is not just one thing that gives you more chances, it is a combination of different things. If you want classy good women, you need good fundamentals, you need good education, you need physical fitness, you need finances, social circles, and so on. You need to build your own class. The more you can pile up on the list, the better chances you have to nail classy woman, and the easier it is to nail good average girls too. They too know your value, they too are not stupid. In addition, they are actually willing to work hard to get you, invest into you - and not the other way.
Think about it, lots of men are looking to get this one hot looking 9, all of them want to break their back to provide for her and to be her lover. She needs to reject 9 out 10 of them, most will be hurt one way or another. At the same time, most of these guys are overlooking great women with looks 5-7 because they want 9.
Now, just imagine that you build a classy man out of yourself, but you reject all these 9's and focus only on 5-7's. You will have no competition, they will fight for you, they will want seduce you. All you have to do is to be there, be around them and allow them to seduce you. Imagine that you meet 9 but you are not interested in her, you don't pay any attention to her, and rather you spent all your of time with 5-7's. She will be shocked, no one has ever ignored and rejected her. She might even start chasing you just because she knows all the other women want you. But be realistic, she has so many good men around that most likely she won't.
In stead of spending all the time on learning seduction skills how to get the highest female on your scale, build your life. Become classy yourself. You be the one high on their scale! Get a good education, be physically fit, learn to have positive views, get lots of friends, find hobbies, work on fundamentals... Build long list of your qualities, build class. All these will add to your real value, all these will give you better chances without much worrying and knowing about women. By reading GC you already know ten thousand times more about them then average guys...
What is 9 out of 10 for one guy might be different for another. 10 is just an ideal, such woman would have all possible characteristics. IMO 10 doesn't exist in real life. There are very classy women, perhaps 9, who have many good characteristics including amazing looks, great personality, intelligence, good and rich family, high education, great income, good morals, excellent social skills, positive feminine energy, ... She is hard working on being successful yet still humble and relatable, and who knows what else. Can you imagine, woman like that would talk to you, make you feel important, vibe with you, even raise your ego by showing submission to you? You will loose your mind, many guys do. I did. But be careful, she has very clear picture in her mind of her ideal man, and there is a high chance that you don't fit it. In other words, she is a true human goddess, but even she still have some incomplete traits.
I agree with Drexel, those 9 mostly don't even go to the bars. Thus scale must be adjusted, depending where you stand with your qualities and success, you might want to aim 1-2 even 3 numbers lower as the most achievable female for you. She might be 9 on your achievable scale, and 5-7 on ideal scale.
Many good looking women learned to fake to be 9 so they can find good providers, the same way like many men fake to be successful men so they can fuck classy pussy. And there are many providers who will gladly take care of classy pussy. You could call most of them rich guys, but that is not entirely true either.
Those men are also classy, from her point of view they have as many positive characteristics as humanly possible (as described above), they might be more alpha-ish than most men, more successful and so on.
She is not looking for only one thing (muscle, money, looks, dominance, ...) rather the whole picture: nice looking + great personality + dominance + rich + physically fit + educated and so on. While for men is mostly important female looks, she always looks at men from different views, different dimensions.
She has a long list of characteristics and values in her head and the one who gets the most points will win. He can be her happy provider, he will be allowed to take her on a private jet to an exotic island and romantically fuck her. Of course there isn't only one list, each person values little bit different things, the items on the list might have different importance at different stages of life and so on. The closer you want to get to these classy girls as a provider the higher on the classy scale you must be yourself.
When she's younger, in early twenties, she might be looking just for something more exciting, more fun, experience, not necessary a provider. But her biological clock is ticking, and as she is getting closer to age 30 she will have to re-adjust her list and scale of her most achievable man. She might still be thinking big, but she has to eliminate some items on her list to find some good provider. She knows that most providers are stable and thus quite boring, but as she is getting older she is looking for more stability rather than fun.
Remember, she is hot and always with many men around, so everybody assumes that the older she gets the more miles she has on, and many times it is true. The problem is, that many good, nice and successful guys want low mileage, the older she is getting the less chances she has to find good provider. So the pressure is always there even when she is younger.
Either way you look at it, you will always have higher chances to be her lover and especially provider if you increase your own value by having good fundamentals, good education, good physique, good income, good personality and so on. The list is long.
For example, only by having a good education and good income you will get a regular access to places where these classy women go. Otherwise you might not get a chance at all, she just won't go to regular bars and regular places. Once you are there, you will still have have lots of competition - there always are other guys who are interested. Many of them can be both potential lovers and providers - same like you.
So say there are three other guys who are good looking like you, have the same education like you, have the same income like you, know the same PUA skills like you. Have same intelligence like you. All are are the same height, and all of you want to talk to her, all want to be her lovers.
Just say that these guys are skinny, while you have some mass because you lift weights. You weigh 30-40 pounds more, and it is not all fat. By default you are projecting physical dominance because you are working out. The other guys will clear up your space and unless they are insane they will not challenge you. They just won't, they don't have balls for it, you are projecting real physical confidence because you are stronger. They don't really get a chance to show her their characteristic, they don't get a chance to fool her with great PUA skills because you are in their way. Never mind that she knows it, it is encoded in her primitive brain to go out with guy who is physically bigger and stronger. She simply feels safer. The second she sees all four of you, you already have a tremendous advantage because you are projecting natural physical dominance over the other guys. She is already subconsciously more attracted to you because of your mass, even though she might be consciously claiming she is looking for ripped skinny guy. What a BS is this "being ripped", unbelievable propaganda. Imagine, you beat these guys and win this 9 only because you are lifting stupid weights!
So it is not just one thing that gives you more chances, it is a combination of different things. If you want classy good women, you need good fundamentals, you need good education, you need physical fitness, you need finances, social circles, and so on. You need to build your own class. The more you can pile up on the list, the better chances you have to nail classy woman, and the easier it is to nail good average girls too. They too know your value, they too are not stupid. In addition, they are actually willing to work hard to get you, invest into you - and not the other way.
Think about it, lots of men are looking to get this one hot looking 9, all of them want to break their back to provide for her and to be her lover. She needs to reject 9 out 10 of them, most will be hurt one way or another. At the same time, most of these guys are overlooking great women with looks 5-7 because they want 9.
Now, just imagine that you build a classy man out of yourself, but you reject all these 9's and focus only on 5-7's. You will have no competition, they will fight for you, they will want seduce you. All you have to do is to be there, be around them and allow them to seduce you. Imagine that you meet 9 but you are not interested in her, you don't pay any attention to her, and rather you spent all your of time with 5-7's. She will be shocked, no one has ever ignored and rejected her. She might even start chasing you just because she knows all the other women want you. But be realistic, she has so many good men around that most likely she won't.
In stead of spending all the time on learning seduction skills how to get the highest female on your scale, build your life. Become classy yourself. You be the one high on their scale! Get a good education, be physically fit, learn to have positive views, get lots of friends, find hobbies, work on fundamentals... Build long list of your qualities, build class. All these will add to your real value, all these will give you better chances without much worrying and knowing about women. By reading GC you already know ten thousand times more about them then average guys...
