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!!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more successful

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Space Monkey
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I've seen a few posts about late bloomers and how the guys feel like they are worth less than those who get laid. So I want to make you feel better by giving you another perspective.

It's true, men who are bad with women do better with money.

It was even stated by Chase in one of the articles. I remember him talking about how men in Brazil start getting girls at 12-13 years old and how men in other countries spend their time getting richer or gaining status.


And it is the truth. The guys who've been getting laid since highschool most of the times are losers in live or average. You won't hear much about the highschool playboy, becoming a billionaire and starting an empire. It's always the nerd who didn't get girls(except the case where the young playboy had daddy with lots of money to inherit).

The guys who get laid don't need to be successful. They don't need to work on their intellectual side. Same as with people with good looks don't have to be smart. Also those guys spend time going out, having girlfriends, having sex with girls(which will take up time and energy). And you won't have the motivation to become super successful.

This is the reason at 21 I drive a Maserati quatroporte, Porsche 911 and I just bought a Ferrari 458 Italia, my company got evaluated at 140$ recently and I'm working on getting it to 1 billion in a few years, because I'm bad with girls and am still a virgin at 21. The guys like Chase have spend their times feeling good and being with girls. They don't have the same level of motivation and time.
This is how I succeeded, the past 3 years: I've been working 16-17 hours a day. My day consists of going to the gym for 1 hours, eating 1 meal per day, sleep 6-7 hours and all the rest of the time I've spent on a laptop/pc working on my company and software. Some times I go literally 72 hours with no sleep - by drinking 10+ cans of red bull/shark/monster. Some weeks I sleep 1-2 hours per night.
I also get lots of testosterone and hate and anger build up - this is a great motivator when you channel it the right way. I spent every waking minute working on becoming rich and successful. I've always though this was the only way to even get a girl to notice me - be rich and drive cars that most people only can dream about. The irony is that now I have the money and cars but I don't want to show them off - I feel awkward being the center of attention.

All that time I spent hating myself and thinking about suicide every single day - I just never had the balls to do it. Every time I looked at the mirror I hated the person I saw and wanted to punch myself. Money and success was the only thing I had. Some guys were good looking, other are good at sports, some were good at school and university, or good with music or art, or good with girls, or had girlfriends.

I had nothing, not even a date with a girl or my first kiss, still a virgin, no friends. NOTHING! So I started working as hard as it was humanly possible on my company and on building a great body and looks. I'm working super hard and being super rich, because I have nothing else in this world. I have absolutely nothing except my company and money. No friend, no girls nothing. This the reason that I use the boards to spill my heart - I use you guys as a therapist to just say what on my mind.
People who have friends, girls, will never have the same motivation to succeed. They won't work super hard like me, to prove to everybody how I'm not a loser and how they are the ones beneath my level.
I actually felt like I don't deserve to have sex before I'm a billionaire. I don't feel I should deserve any happiness while I'm ordinary. And I feel that anything below 1 billion evaluation is a failure for me. I have never been good at anything and finally I'm good a business, so I have to be one the best in the world.

Also since I was young I've been working on my intelligence and learning as much as I can about business and technology and science. The guys who were smooth from the age of 13 spent their time going out with girls and friends and at bars and clubs. They'll never have to be smart or rich to be happy.
I've spend a lot of time hating other people who have had sex. I've worked hard to prove to myself that i"m not a loser, just because I haven't put my dick inside a girl.

And it's weird - I'm 21 and worth 200 million leva in a country with average annual salary of 6000$. And I feel beneath every loser guy who has had sex at least 1 time. I have expensive cars and lots of money, I work on projects that you can't believe. I'll become a billionaire in a few years(there is no way I won't do it) I'll change the world and the lives of millions of people and I feel miles beneath some ugly guy with the intelligence of a french toast, who took home a drunk girl and put his dick inside her.
And probably most people will evaluate me the same way.


It's not easy and is really lonely but some of you know how it feels.


I would've never got to where I am if I was every a bit good with girls. That's also why the guys who are good will work in the public service sector or some low paid job. While the nerds will be the rich and powerful.

So don't feel bad about not being experienced.

Plus you can always start learning seduction and working on your fundamentals. You can become better with girls - I'm learning and developing and hope to have a success soon. This is the thing a nerd can become a seducer - but a seducer can't become super successful and have hundreds of millions. They just don't have the motivation and hate towards the world to do it. If they feel bad - they just go and get laid 30 minutes later. When I feel bad I start working on a new project to make more millions and to try and not feel like a loser.

But I am working on seduction and have become really attractive. Just have to work on my game and process.



The only small problem is that I was diagnosed a psychopath. It's not severe and I'm working it out in therapy. But more on it in this thread https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6022
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

at first i thought troll
still not sure
but youll be getting laid with girls in no time i feel like
worst comes to worst hire an escort willing to have sex
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

Great point. You are working hard, are motivated, intelligent, making good money, yet you can't get laid. Some lazy dumb smuck with half intelligence and no money is getting laid all the time. And that is the unfortunate truth.

You have very high anxiety because you are trying to "prove" yourself to others, you feel inferior to others thus you are trying to overcompensate it with hard work, money and so on. If it doesn't work out you get angry, pissed. You care too much, intelligence and being rich is too important to you.

Don't make me wrong, having money and work on something hard is great, being intelligent is great, but understand something - "Bad Boys" don't care much and thus they have nothing to prove, they are not so smart so they don't care about IQ. They simply have fun. This "Fun" is exciting to women, especially young ones.

What you are doing, your job, the way you express yourself and things you do, all it is like unspoken language. Women are very good at reading this language. By hard working, making and saving money (getting education and so on) you are categorizing yourself into being a provider, nice guy. Having label "Nice Guy" puts you in category "Boring", and boring is simply opposite of "Fun".

Try to see it this way:

When she is young, around 20's, she wants to have "fun". She ALWAYS says she wants "nice guy", guy who cares, gets education, makes and saves money, buys her things, is intelligent, gentle and so on. Yet she goes and sleeps with "Bad Boy", the exact opposite. This is a guy who is an asshole, beats her up, ravishes her, doesn't care about her, has no money nor desire to take care of her, guy who fucks females left and right, and perhaps just drinks and using drugs. He is a guy who doesn't wait for her, who leaves her anytime he feels like to. He doesn't date, all he wants is fuck, and fucking is fun. So she talks about Angels, have good time with Angels - but sleeps with Devils. Devils are so exciting, and Angels are boring. At young age all she wants is to have fun. In her mind she deserves to have fun, the more fun she has the more she deserves.

But time goes on, she is getting to her 30's. She has miles on that many "bad boys" put on her. Now she feels biological pressure, now she wants to saddle down and have family, children. Bad Boy has no money nor desire to take care of her, he only wants to fuck, so who is left? It is our classical Nice Guy, intelligent with good behavior, stable, guy who can buy her things because he makes and saves money. He is nice, doesn't swear and drinks only socially. He is a guy who "protects" her and saves her from bad boys. Now she needs him, she needs someone who will pay for her and her kids. Maybe it is not even his kids, but again, he simply doesn't have to find out, never. He is so good that he doesn't even ask. Now she deserves to be protected from bad boys and she deserves someone who takes care of her kids. For kids, marriage and high miles, Nice Guy is great. Now she deserves Nice Guy.

So she goes out and dates. Nice Guys date, Bad Boys don't. She lets those Nice Guys wait, the longer they wait for sex the more they want her, the more they are hooked on those good feelings of this sweet girl. All she has to do is smile little bit, flirt here and there, play hot and cold, makes him feel so good about himself, and show up on another date (after she cancels) - and the poor guy looses his mind over her, chases her, brings her flowers, pays for her, can't sleep because of her, does everything above and beyond just to be with her. Now she deserves to have this Nice Guy, she deserves his love and protection. She deserves to have everything this Nice Guy gives her.

And she knows she can reject him any time she wants, and she knows he is so fucking weak that he can't take it. He begs her to stay with him, he orbits around her, gets envious at other guys, he's thinking about her for months and years - even while she is fucking someone else. She knows he can't take the rejection and that he will do anything to avoid it. She then has sex with him because she deserves to settle down, but this sex is so boring because he has no experience, he is afraid to fuck her like a real man, but he is just in seventh heaven. So she at least pretends that she has an orgasm so he feels good about himself. And if he doesn't comply with her wishes after a while, all she has to do is to withdraw sex, the poor guy then melts and submit again and again.

Just so he feels even more miserable about himself, and she can feel much better about herself, now she's gonna start with some feminist shit - let the fool cook, wash dishes and clothes, go shopping with her, take care of her kids. She tells him what to do, and he does it. Now, now she is not just woman - now she is equal to men. Now she deserves to be equal.

Time goes on, now she's around 40. What, marriage is too boring? Not a big deal. She finds another fool, perhaps he has more money, or he is simply more fun. Its always about fun. So she lets the first fool pay for her kids and she'll also take his house. We have so many good laws, and so many good lawyers, there are so many great protectors and saviors of those poor women. Let's fuck with the second fool in "her" house, and let him take care of her children, let him pay for them too. She just deserves that. She deserves to have house that the first fool paid for, she deserves money from him for her kids, and she deserves to have fun in her house with another fool as well.

Ok, it is little bit inflated, not every girl is exactly like that, but you know what I mean, it explains a lot. I met good girls who would 'never' sleep with bad boys (meaning she would never admit that she would do it). They were just raised differently. But I realized that they do have the same desire as those girls that do. On one hand she has this huge desire for nasty sex, pure fuck, and on the other she is so afraid of it she would deny existence of her nose between her eyes. She wants it, she craves it, but because of the society pressure that would view her as a slut she would never do it.

Unfortunately, most guys in this society are Nice Guys. These guys are providers and protectors, they are 'saviors' of women. They work hard, they care, they put titles after they names so everyone can see how intelligent they are. And true, they are great providers and saviors. The only problem they have is that they can't get laid because they are so fucking boring.

So, don't be this Nice Guy. Don't try to impress her. Work hard, but only for yourself, make money, but only for you. Give her nothing, don't be her provider, don't be her protector. Don't care about her, don't care about her life. She doesn't really care about your IQ, your money and your title - not unless she considers you as a great provider. All she cares about is fuck. All she cares about is if you can deliver a good fuck - without being pussy like every Nice Guy is...
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

^^^Sad but true^^^
 
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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

Drck, you've got me wrong.

making and saving money (getting education and so on) you are categorizing yourself into being a provider, nice guy. Having label "Nice Guy" puts you in category "Boring", and boring is simply opposite of "Fun".

First i hate education, I'm 21 but I don't go to university(what would you choose being really rich or having a diploma?). I've always thought that education is for low or average intelligent people that can succeed, so they need education to get an average job. Sorry if I've offended some of you, but that's what I believe.

Next yes I have lots of money and expensive cars, I love em. I'm having a custom made RX7 Veilside Fortune and I'm super excited for the next 5-6 months till they make it and ship it from Japan. I want to buy a Keonigsseg Agera - I just can't seem to give 4-5 million for a car, when I get a couple of hundred mil more I'll buy it. But I don't show this at all to people I know and girls. But I don't save money at all I buy all kinds of expensive sh#t and go to casinos. I just don't splash it in clubs and bars.

When I approached girls and a couple of them asked me where I studied, I said I didn't study cause I don't believe education is gonna help me realize my dreams, So I took a big risk an dropped out the first month.
Then one of them asked me what I did for money and a job. I said I was sitting in front of a laptop most of the day at a tech company. It's not a lie just not the whole truth :). I make it seem like I'm a loser with no future and no ambition.

And I'm actually getting a Kawasaki motorcycle to drive instead of my cars. It looks awesome and is so bad ass.

I'm also working on being a bad boy. And some times I seem a bit to edgy, when I'm serious and lost in thoughts. And I won't say I'm nice - most of the time I don't act nice towards people. I just don't care about most people - a few weeks ago I saw and old lady trip and fall and It was so funny that I almost laughed out loud and some guy helped her up while I was chuckling.
And I'm doing lots of direct approaches and looking for just sex right now. So I'll disqualify myself from boyfriend candidate. I'm working on being simply a lover with nothing more, no provider or relationship potential at all.
That's one of the reasons why I don't get fast success. If I'd roll with my flashy Ferrary 458 Italia, dressed expensively I bet lots of girls would want to give me their numbers and go on a date. But I don't want to do that, so I'm doing like all you guys - starting with lots of rejections to learn how to be only a lover.


And I've sworn that I will never be that nice guy! If a girl tries to act like she can control me - I tell get "bitch get the fuck out" .



But I am happy that I'm still happy that I haven't had success with girls yet. I will learn all this and get good with girls, and I'll also have lots of money and success. So I guess it's all for the best. If I have had success in high school and had gone out with and slept with girls - I would've never been the man I am now.
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

I put the education to parenthesis for reason, it doesn't pertain to you but to many other guys. You got some arrogance issues, as well as other issues, but hey, to some girls it may be quite attractive and there is no one here to judge. You don't really need help, you can do all of it on your own. I just see the superficiality that you are expressing and the anger, so all I can repeat is old saying from our grandmas: hey, although it is much better to have them than not, in long term money (and IQ, education, fucking many girls, ...) won't really make you happy, these are only short term satisfactions.
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

There's some degree of "where you put your energies" into, and it's often true that the men who get laid often are lacking in motivation to build something great. On the flip side, there are also plenty of men who have made major contributions to science or built billion-dollar businesses who were also highly sexed and did quite well with women. Albert Einstein, Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, etc. Just as there are mountains and mountains of men who are both zeroes with money/business and zeroes with women.

Remember that not all people are "equal" - because someone's born with a low IQ doesn't necessarily mean he'll also be endowed with enormous muscles or a warrior's heart; there are some people who are born with nothing and some born with everything. There are others who are highly driven and systematically go about accomplishing everything they want to accomplish. You may have business success plus no success with women now, but fast forward a few years and you may have business success AND be talented with women. People change (and you're still quite young - you'll find as you age that certainty is inversely related to years on Earth and experience here).

Violent fantasies aren't too unusual - most men fantasize about killing the baddies to save the girl or save the world. Violent thoughts about people you randomly run into (or about those close to you, or even yourself) are known as intrusive thoughts - most people get these, but will tend to silence them quickly when empathy/sympathy/guilt kicks in... low/no empathy individuals, lacking all of those but sympathy, won't silence them unless the individual is one they feel sympathetic to, but will take pleasure in them for individuals they feel no sympathy for. Personally, I used to find myself silencing a lot of these thoughts when I was young, felt like a victim, and pissed off at the world... once I started getting laid, yes, those thoughts all but vanished. This will likely be the case for you, though there have been plenty of psychopaths who did very well with women and went on to killing anyway as the "next thrill", so probably worth monitoring to see if there's a change either way after.

Anyway, I'd probably stay away from labeling myself "psychopath", because that sort of cements your status as an outsider and entrenches you further into victim mentality. I'd just refer to myself as "low/no empathy" and leave it at that. The low empathy individuals who end up acting on their violent urges tend across the board to have difficulty with emotion regulation and impulse control, and I'd be very surprised if that's you if you were able to build a successful business and then not go spend all the money you made on it immediately. The low empathy individual with poor impulse control does not think of long-term consequences, so he goes and executes a few people for the thrill of it, until he's found out by the state and the state executes him in turn. The low empathy individual with better impulse control checks those urges because he knows where they probably lead, and there are better things he can do with his time.

Another thing, for perspective: in an uncaring world, perhaps it doesn't matter what you do to others, unless you are caught... but if that's true, it also means it doesn't matter what others do to you, as well. If you feel at all upset about not having what you want in your life, that displays a rift of cognitive dissonance: a belief that you should be free to do whatever you want to whomever you want to, cohabiting with a belief that others should do whatever you want and give you whatever you want, regardless of whether they want to. This can feel good to think emotionally, but doesn't stand up to reason; it's a cheat. Either it doesn't matter what you do to others and it doesn't matter what they do to you, or it matters what they do to you and matters what you do to them.

Also, one more thing that might help you: you seem to have a rather grandiose impression of yourself, and yet fantasize about spending your time stabbing people in the face for looking at you funny. Now try and imagine a king who spends much of his time torturing and impaling those citizens of his whom he dislikes; what greatness awaits him? He is so concerned with petty fights with trivial people that he is brought down to their level; rather than doing great things with his crown, he spends his time bathing in the blood of those around him, and even if he escapes revolution and torture by his own people himself, his children most likely won't live for long, and regardless he as well becomes a mere footnote of history.

If you fought to the death with every farm animal that butted you with its head, how much time would you have left for greatness?

You can focus on building, expansion, and greatness; or, you can focus on destruction, vengeance, and tearing down; but the more of your focus you place upon one, the less of it you have to give to the other.

Chase
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

Thanks for the post Chase. Here are some of my thoughts:

Albert Einstein, Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, etc.
Einstein didn't do any original work, he stole and copied most of his work. About the other rich men that are good with women, I always figure that the success with women came post being a billionaire.

And those violent fantasies I think are due to victim mentality.

As for the low empathy - that's it towards some people I have lots and lots of empathy. But toward those I stop perceiving as human - I have zero empathy. I think this is what you call "others" . And I won't act on those fantasies because I'm not going to jail. Everybody gets caught and I'm not stupid enough to do it. Maybe if some pandemia/apocalypse/world war comes and destroys society and law.


you seem to have a rather grandiose impression of yourself
I know I do. It's mostly overcompensating for having no success with girls. So I figured I'd have to become someone above all others to show myself that I'm not a piece of garbage simply because I haven't been with a girl yet.
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

I want to dig deeper with this thread because it talks about the status, money, and career thing. Do not buy into illusions about the bad boy biker who barely makes enough to get by sleeping with the attractive girl while the doctor or lawyer is getting average looking girls. One thing I have found among some of the rich men I have been around is that they "cover" their lays well. Now sure somewhere along the lines you had the guy who was pressured into a certain profession and feels like a slave to it which means he is frustrated and likely trying to please others. I notice this a lot among my oriental friends (Asians and Indians) who get pressured into White Collar jobs by intrusive parents and end up being depressed in life because of it.

With that said, a lot of these rich and well off guys put on the mask of a nice boyfriend material type but end up fucking so girls. A lot of these guys are in situations where promiscuity can make them lose their jobs so they have to be careful of what they say and what gets out there. Behind all the closed doors some of these men have a harem of women: bar maids, strippers, elementary school teachers (who look good), and others who are getting with these guys because of what they can provide.

When we think of bad boy we think of the guy with tattoos and loud demeanor when really the true manipulative people are those that wear the mask of innocence in public yet have more interesting lives in private.
 

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Re: !!Must read for losers!! --- Are you bad with women? -You'll be more succes

My man, you're going a little over board with the bragging. I know you're happy with what you've accomplished In life and have all of your materialistic items and money people wish to have. It's not that serious. You can't call every guy that has been good with girls a loser and every nerd successful. I get what you're saying because you envied all of the dudes that got chicks when you didn't and you want to get girls now to make up for it.

But belittling other people that probably didn't do anything to you doesn't help. If dudes played you or girls played you, I can understand. But if you're just angry because guys were getting pussy since they were in high school and did nothing to you is the wrong way to think. I know bragging makes you feel better about yourself and it's good to make positive statements about yourself. You just can't think you're better than everyone else because you have money and you have cars. Do you really want girls to like you just because if that?

In all honesty all I got from your post was that you are hurt you didn't have success early on and you're mad at the world and the guys that got laid. It's not their fault you didn't have success, it's your fault so don't think you're better than anyone because of your wealth.

And the fact your post title says "Must read for losers", shows me what you think about yourself and other guys who suck with women. You just said that guys that got girls all of their lives are losers, but you say your post is a must read for losers. So everybody is a loser?

Im not tryna bash, but you gotta know its not that serious. Chase said himself he knows dudes with a lot of cash and good careers who suck with women and vice versa. He even said you dont need expensive cars because girls dont care about that shit. They go for a ride around the block and don't care anymore, but guys love cars. All you can do now is make your money, work on your game and get some girls.

"Man made the money, money never made the man"
 
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