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ElChe

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Fellas... this is a bit off topic, but you gotta show me some of your drawings. I draw too and ya'll got me curious lol.

Also, I've drawn girls before, and when you do focused and detailed drawings, where you're really enjoying yourself and putting effort, the effect is magical... One time I drew a girl like this and afterwards she was doing everything I told her to (and touching me, flirting, etc)...
It's like you take in all of her beauty, and the drawing communicates this, so she sees it and gets all like :oops:. It also ups their confidence, which helps attainability.
 

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Super congrats man! A few months ago, I also decided to renounce the apps in favor of Cold Approach Day Game. And reading your LR brought a real smile to my face.

I've now finally reached the point where I am not interested in apps anymore (whereas previously I did Day Game, knowing it was harder, and hoping and waiting for the point where my results are good enough to fully renounce the apps). I hope you can find the success you're looking for in day game too.

I'm curious, did you really get your first lay from day game after trying it for the first time 4 days ago? Or does this post hide weeks or months of tentative attempts to try day game? If the former, that's super impressive. I'm pretty slow at this, so it took me like 4 months from first day game approach to first day game lay.

The problem though, was that we were an hour away from my place by train, i had cycled down, and my place was a mess.
Ahhh I got worried when reading this part. After having these lays slip out of my hands enough times, every time I leave my apartment, I make the bed, pull up the shades, tidy up, etc. so I know my logistics are ready for any potential day game interaction.
Sketchbook=chick crack. Don't leave home without the former and you won't go home without the later!
I love this. I confess I'm not much of an artist. But after reading this success, I'm going to start carrying a sketchbook with me to see how I could fit this in.
 

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I'm curious, did you really get your first lay from day game after trying it for the first time 4 days ago? Or does this post hide weeks or months of tentative attempts to try day game? If the former, that's super impressive. I'm pretty slow at this, so it took me like 4 months from first day game approach to first day game lay.
It was an anomaly, I’ve probably approached a sum total of 40 times in my life. The last time I approached was last october and resulted in a same day blowjob. Before that several numbers and one date, with a chick that still reaches out every now and again..

Not to toot my own horn but I’m good at recognizing interest in a woman and capitalizing on it.

Or it’s just luck I don’t know. I have a lot of experience with dates and moving fast from online etc. which i’m probably applying to daygame somehow, not sure..

What I have noticed is a lot of my results have come from women who have signalled me first. Either initially or by me following a subtle and indirect seduction a la @Teevster’s method.

Ahhh I got worried when reading this part. After having these lays slip out of my hands enough times, every time I leave my apartment, I make the bed, pull up the shades, tidy up, etc. so I know my logistics are ready for any potential day game interaction.
Yeah again seems i got lucky here, i’ll be making sure i’m prepared from now on, fundamentals wise and logistics wise.
 

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Yeah again seems i got lucky here, i’ll be making sure i’m prepared from now on, fundamentals wise and logistics wise.

The longer I am in the game the more I become aware of how crucial logistic management is and how much having your logistics down pat gives you an edge.

The seduction process in terms of logistics is a process of going from a wide spectrum of variables at the beginning of the approach and narrowing the variables down to a manageable few, all of which are most conducive to closing. By having as many bases covered prior to approaching you are coming in with the great advantage of being able to A: have a large palette of solutions you can pick from, and plug and play in a spontaneous manner that is calibrated to the needs of the moment, and B: streamline the whole process by having clear targets to hit (That is to say, knowing precisely what spots you can pull to in the vicinity and already having somewhat of an understanding of steps a b an c when it comes to pulling there, gives you a clear target to hit and sense of how to hit that target)

This is precisely why eliminating as many variables as you can before the jump, is crucial. Having your house clean of course is one of those variables you have control over. Can you bring a girl to a total mess and fuck her? Sure maybe. It happens. But will it happen every time? No, and often times bringing her into a mess will throw up unnecessary friction in the seduction process. Having your place on lock streamlines the whole thing. Furthermore, knowing that you do (or do not) have this basic logistic covered actually affects what you are bringing to the game before you even are close to getting this woman to your place. It affects what you are bringing to the game before you even approach. Knowing you have this covered allows you to consider the more nuanced aspects of the process cause you are not going "oh shit how do I work around the roadblock" and instead are coming in with an "I have so many bases covered" kind of energy.

I have recently come to realize that even beyond having my house decent, there are ways to streamline it for seduction even more. Your house is sort of a microcosm of logistics. Out in the field, you are thinking how do I move her 4 miles from the cafe to my house (a wide spectrum of variables)? At your house, you are thinking how do I move her from the living room to the bedroom (or from sharing an intimate moment, to sharing an even more intimate moment)? The variables are narrower than out in the field, but still a factor. With this in mind you can set up your living quarters in a way that accommodates all the variables at play, and then some. For example, having your love seat in just the right place can allow you to close the gap of distance in a streamlined manner, instead of having to aim to get her all the way from that one chair over there across the room onto your couch, and so on. Of course, this isn't always necessary as sometimes she is coming through your front door practically ripping your clothes off already. But if you have this base covered, just in case, you are all the better off because of it.

Furthermore, if you consider the tone and mood of your place, as well as stimulating touches of flair, you can confidently move energy along towards seduction. What books are on your shelf? (a few stimulating books that can lead to sexual gambits are conveniently and tastefully on display. Don't go overboard). A piece of erotic art could be a good call (again, tasteful. Not clubbing anyone over the head with the suggestive nature). Have solid mood lighting ready to go. Sensual experiences. Exotic scents. Stimulating things to touch. Cozy pillows have a small menu of refreshing specialty beverages, etc, etc. In this way, not only are you covering your logistics but you are also offering a unique curated experience. This experience is baked into the logistics. You being able to manage the logistics in a dynamic way that is aware of her experience, is all part of the experience. Then you can approach her with even more gusto out in the field knowing you have her covered on multiple levels.

Extending this idea beyond one's house goes a long way as well. I recommend having days where you are just doing reconnaissance and building maps of logistics on the area where you game. Where are discreet places you can pull to for exciting, fun escalations (end goal targets)? What are stimulating places in between those escalation spots, that you can bounce around to as the seduction unfolds? Coffee shops, bars, galleries, parks, museums, book stores, hotel hot tubs that are easy to sneak into (those hotel hot pulls have done me wonders), so on and so on. Unique and exciting nooks and crannies. All the hidden gems in the area. Understand the tone and social implications of each of these spots. Do they offer adventure, quietude, a social experience, a mentally stimulating experience, inspiration, a sense of comfort or safety if necessary, a sense of exitment, a sensual experience, and so on? Have places where you can generate casual social proof. Get to know baristas at some coffee shops nearby, or the docents at your favorite museum. Places where they know you by name and light up when you are around. Also have places that are intimate and away from a more social gaze. Know your bus routes, and your bike route. Places to park your car (if you have one). Just like having your house set up now not only have your bases covered on basic logistical, but you are able to offer unique experiences that are tailored to the energy of the moment that you two are creating together. You have a palette of unique logistical options that you can mix and match to the situation. Do you need more time to connect? maybe an hour train ride back to your place is perfect. But maybe, the energy is ripe and you need to strike right now "I know a beautiful discreet corner of this Japanese garden."

Is all of this necessary to the seduction process? Maybe not as much as having the strong ability to just manage logistics on the fly. That's probably more fundamental all things considered. I have slapped together the scrappiest seductions with remarkably shaky logistics, but having this added layer will never go against you, and putting in this sort of work upfront can go a loooong way in maximizing your odds.

One last note, just because one has a large palette of logistics to pull from does not mean they are defacto applied well. The application is totally key here. For example, in the thread where you helped me gain perspective on my fumbling with an insta model instant date, one of my biggest mistakes was misapplying logistics. She was going to walk a friend's dog and I kind of glommed onto the notion that we would walk the dog together. I knew a trail nearby that has some good opportunities for unique and intimate escalations should the opportunity present itself. However, I may have set my sights on the wrong target. It occurred to me afterward that her friend's house (where she was going to pick up the dog) may have actually been close to my house. Maybe the move would have been to eliminate the step of getting the dog for walk altogether and suggested we just pop by my house before she goes to walk the dog. But because I failed to gather enough logistical info and was rigid in my target, a series of fumbles ensued. All this to say, logistics is really about the application, not just knowledge. Though, of course, knowledge is the first step. So having the knowledge of your surroundings is crucial, but also knowledge of where she is coming from is crucial as well. This is why I have been focusing on gathering as much logistical info I can from women. A tool that has helped me with this is fractionating logistics. Plant the seed right from the jump by a simple inquiry (maybe ask what she is up to today), then, throughout the convo, build and expound on logistical info in a natural way. Moving away from the topic and coming back to it, just like you would when fractionating sex talk or any other topic. This ultimately allows you to seed a pull that is in line with where she is at in terms of logistics. It becomes more of a collaboration that she is invested in and can get behind. Those women at the dive bar I mentioned, the ones I was playing the "psychic" color guessing game with, they were both tourists who had a flight to catch in the morning. One of them really wanted to go home and sleep (she had a job interview the next day back in her homeland) the other one really wanted to keep adventuring, and kept bringing up how if we went to the airbnb the night would just end (they were sharing a studio together, so no place for her and I to just hang out). She was really into ghosts, and ghost stories. Because of my logistical knowledge of the area I knew of a spooky unique graveyard right near where they were staying. With this knowledge and the information I had gathered from both of the women, I was able to create a win win for everybody. We would drop sleepy head off at the airbnb, then me an spooky would take a quick adventure to the graveyard right nearby (promised to bring her back quick). Me and spooky got spooky in the graveyard, the tension and momentum building, and then she blew me in my car before we headed back to the airbnb to drop her back off. There were a ton more elements at play in the whole seduction, but logistics and compelling solutions applied correctly played no small part.

I realize this post is long-winded. Lately. I have been passionately thinking about the big picture of logistics in-game, so I figured I'd share.
 
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hey_lover

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Props on the SDL man.

American girls are hands down my favourite DG target. From the 6 I've approached in the past year, I kiss closed two and laid a third. They were all super sweet and feminine. I don't know why they get such a bad rep from American men. They are much more feminine and open than British women. Although, I suppose being on holiday helps massively.
 

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Props on the SDL man.

American girls are hands down my favourite DG target. From the 6 I've approached in the past year, I kiss closed two and laid a third. They were all super sweet and feminine. I don't know why they get such a bad rep from American men. They are much more feminine and open than British women. Although, I suppose being on holiday helps massively.
cause they were TRAVELING, they go into vegas mode "what happens in vegas stays in vegas"..... They get a bad rep of dudes that don't get laid, women are women.....
 
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cause they were TRAVELING, they go into vegas mode "what happens in vegas stays in vegas"..... They get a bad rep of dudes that don't get laid, women are women.....
Yeah, that's what I said. I was referring more to their nature and attitude. I can't speak for topcat's girl, but I've been surprised by how sweet and feminine the one's I've met have been. Granted, small sample size. It helps that American girls respond very positively to a British accent.
 

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Yeah, that's what I said. I was referring more to their nature and attitude. I can't speak for topcat's girl, but I've been surprised by how sweet and feminine the one's I've met have been. Granted, small sample size. It helps that American girls respond very positively to a British accent.
From those i’ve met and banged - no more or less than brits.
 
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