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My first field report - Harsh Criticism encouraged, will do anything to improve

willord

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Goals for tonight:
1) Write a detailed field report at the end of the night and break down all my interactions
2) Do more targeted approaches instead of spam approaching everything in sight and make mental notes of the girl’s actual reception versus my expected outcome

The night started out on a good note. I went to a local bar with a dance floor on the lower level, got down there and started letting loose. Not 2 seconds later, a hot girl came over and started dancing with me. Guess I had a good vibe from meditating 20 min before heading out. Unfortunately, when I danced with her, it felt stiff and it wasn’t as fluid as it should have been and I wasn’t exactly warmed up so I didn’t even engage her in conversation. Not to mention, she was the one leading me in the dance, doing spins and shit instead of the other way around. She left, came back, grabbed her friends, and danced with them instead. Next, I had my worst interaction all night. I approached a group of 3 Asian girls and two of them told me to leave. I got in their face and said, “Or what? What are you going to do?” and one of them shoved me in the face. I could see them getting really pissed off and they started yelling at me, so I ejected before security came. Next, I approached 2 older women sitting down on a couch but that went poorly, I stayed in set too long since they just never hooked in the first place. I approached another older woman who said she’s married but the vibe was good and she seemed to like me.

The second venue consisted of a local bar with a game room downstairs. Went in, approached a girl who was standing up among a group of 2 friends and introduced myself. She was friendly but based on the vibe it didn’t seem like she was going to abandon her friends for me, so I asked her to wing for me, which she did an excellent job of, walked with me to two chicks and introduced me as her best friend since middle school. I pretty much only spoke to one of them the entire time, she was French, teased her about French culture and shit but when I tried to move her towards the bar, I got a hard no. I asked again twice in different ways after further conversation, but I didn’t really get anywhere. Maybe I should have persisted in moving her but with her friend there, who didn’t seem to like me when I introduced myself, I decided to bounce instead. Upstairs, I met a Brazilian girl who looked like she was all alone. When I approached her, she was mediocre receptive, says all her friends are at another bar. I did compliment her blonde hair a lot and I think gave her too many compliments in general so she didn’t really comply when I tried to move her to grab a drink. In fact, she went really cold and actually ended up leaving after I kept pushing her to buy her a drink. I approached 2 girls after that including a hot Russian Blonde and got blown out by them as well since it was obvious they were having a girls’ night out. Next, I walked up and sat down on a couch next to a mixed set where it seemed like a guy was gaming a girl and her friend was just on her phone. I approached the friend and while the initial opener was good, it seemed like the vibe got ruined when I tried to guess her country of origin and kept failing. The other guy also left and completely killed the vibe since the girl was upset about something he had done and started pressuring her friend to leave.

Next, I approached a super cool girl on the street from South Africa. I opened her by telling her how she walked with a swagger and how I had to see if she was actually that confident. We had a really long conversation about some pretty deep topics like history, cultures, etc and she responded well to all my kino. Then, her male friend showed up and ruined the vibe. It felt like now she was being judged so she wasn’t as open as before. What a cockblock. I figured there was little to no chance of further escalation with this girl even though she’s exactly my type that I allowed her to leave after she headed back into some bar instead of following.

In the next bar, I immediately approached the hottest girl there who was sitting with her friends but she told her she had a boyfriend. Next, I approached a 40 something woman who responded warmly but kept resisting every time I tried to escalate. She was like “You could be my son”. I held her hand the entire time and even went for the kiss twice but after getting rejected from every escalation, I decided the age gap was simply too much for her and bounced.

Next, I hit the street again and approached a few girls who were walking alone. None of the approaches went well, I find that girls who are walking somewhere are some of the toughest to open in general so no surprise there. This is where things got crazy. Those 3 Asian girls from the first venue I went to who blew me out hard and told me to fuck off were all sitting down and eating. They told me to come over and asked me what my name was. I gave them a fake name because I was sure they might report me to the police but they were actually pretty friendly. They said that the way I approached them at the club was creepy because I kept persisting even when they told me to go away. They also said my dance moves were really weird looking and that I should take dance lessons from their black friend. I told them that I appreciate the advice and opened up about putting in a lot of effort into getting better with girls. The girl who shoved my face apologized and said I’m not a bad looking guy, I’m just too aggressive and need to tone it down to not be creepy. Next, their black friends came and after initial introductions, I asked them if they could mentor me. They were not down, didn’t seem to like me very much. Oh well, onto the next set.

It was closing time for all the bars. The last girl I approached was a cute Jamaican girl who was also walking but there was an obvious approach signal in the form of a smile when she looked at me so I approached her and hugged her. She was cute in a little sister kind of way and I really digged her. Started getting a boner mid conversation and shit. Opened with standard shit: “Hey, I really shouldn’t be doing this right now but your hair is just so adorable, I really couldn’t help it, I had to meet you.” I hooked her arm and led her to her cousin and her brother, who she was delivering food to. I introduced myself briefly to both but neither of them seemed to trust me or like me very much. Perhaps I should have tried harder to win them over but I decided to just go for it with this girl so after telling her cousin that we would be right back, I led her around the block and came up to my house (my logistics are really good for nightgame where I live). I told her that I had to use the bathroom, come in quick, we’ll be right back out excuse but she absolutely refused to come in. The vibe was being ruined. I just went full aggression and kept throwing every excuse I could think of to try to get her to come in. I told her, just one drink, we’ll be right back with your friends but she said she had an early morning tomorrow and drank a lot tonight already… I ended up pulling her in for a kiss and kiss closing her before she asked to give me her number. Probably going to set something up for tomorrow or next week but man, another close one. I know that the main problem here is that her cousin kept calling her and asking her where she was so in order for me to actually pull her in, I had to overcome that somehow since she would definitely be getting judged by them if she went in with me. Hopefully when I meet her again, they won’t be there.

And that’s the end of my night. I would highly appreciate the most brutal criticism because that’s how I learn best. I’m here to get to advanced level game, and I’m ready and willing to put in extraordinary hours of effort towards getting there. My definition of advanced level game is being able to pull a hot chick on every night out if I want to. In terms of my goals, I feel like I failed goal 2 pretty hard. Very hard for me to not approach a hot girl when I see one instead of stepping back to analyze the situation and try to put myself in her shoes.
 
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willord

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Re: My first field report - Harsh Criticism encouraged, will do anything to impr

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Re: My first field report - Harsh Criticism encouraged, will do anything to impr

I think you're already improving by trying to figure out what you did wrong.

Those asian girls seems pretty stuck up lol. Seems like something in your approach just made alarms go off in their heads. Might not have anything to do as well. I would raise my eyebrows like I was incredulous, hold up my hands and say wow, chill; give a what's the deal with these crazy chicks look to someone nearby, shrugh my shoulders as if to say you get all kinds and leave. No need to be confrontational. And the whole show I described here (should last only a few secs) is just for the benefit of onlookers, in case there are any.

What happened with the older woman who was married? Why didn't you persist?

Don't try to play a girl's guessing game. It puts you on the chasing role and the girl is leading the conversation. I use the same thing with girls. I make them guess stuff when they ask questions (where appropriate). You can do like this though I'm sure there are lot of ways to spin it:
-Where are you from?
-Where do I look like I'm from?
-Hmm... Amazon, where there are no man in your tribe so your elders sent you on a mission to save the tribe.

Anything goes really, as long as you lead the conversation and not her.

History, cultures these may be good intellectual topics but they are not very seductive. Either flirt with her or get to know her asap (deepdive). If her guy friend comes and it seems like she respects him, just befriend the guy while keeping the focus on the girl.

Those asian girls seem really brutal lol. Most girls are too nice to say things like that. What they say may hold some truth but don't let anyone disrespect you like that.

Okay, specifics aside... what's your vibe like? I think you shouldn't get this many bad vibes from different people. Maybe try to be friendly first and be the man everybody finds chill and cool. Some pointers, I'm just laying it out here because I don't really know how your interactions go. Don't be overager, don't try to impress anyone. But be warm. When you open don't open from the front but open from the side. Maintain strong eye contact. Smile. Smile is a biig comfort builder. Plus it makes you feel better. Have a relaxed body language. Take up space. Basically always try to improve your fundementals.

Good luck :)
 

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Re: My first field report - Harsh Criticism encouraged, will do anything to impr

By the way, meant to write more yesterday, was just in a rush.

I find with people who don't have anxiety (including myself sometimes), they sort of BUST into the conversation instead of easing into it. People who bust into conversation can't be taken seriously as a powerful or respectable person - the other person didn't have to impress or invest in you to get your acceptance. In other words, you're violating the Law of Least Effort.

Focus on making your openings slower:
- Don't give them 100% of your body language at first, give them 10%, then 50%, then 100% as they invest in you
- Ask them something that's clearly engaging for them to answer (i.e. "you know who you look like?"), but say it nonchalantly, or as if you may just leave after (so they're forced to invest in you if they want the interaction to continue)
- Be super casual. Don't act as if the opening or meeting them is a big deal.

That article I linked yesterday expands on that first point with progressively opening your body language.

Hope that helps :)
Nick
 

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Re: My first field report - Harsh Criticism encouraged, will do anything to impr

PrettyDecent said:
By the way, meant to write more yesterday, was just in a rush.

I find with people who don't have anxiety (including myself sometimes), they sort of BUST into the conversation instead of easing into it. People who bust into conversation can't be taken seriously as a powerful or respectable person - the other person didn't have to impress or invest in you to get your acceptance. In other words, you're violating the Law of Least Effort.

Focus on making your openings slower:
- Don't give them 100% of your body language at first, give them 10%, then 50%, then 100% as they invest in you
- Ask them something that's clearly engaging for them to answer (i.e. "you know who you look like?"), but say it nonchalantly, or as if you may just leave after (so they're forced to invest in you if they want the interaction to continue)
- Be super casual. Don't act as if the opening or meeting them is a big deal.

That article I linked yesterday expands on that first point with progressively opening your body language.

Hope that helps :)
Nick

Thank you Nick, I will definitely incorporate this into my next night out
 
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