FR My first field report

[Bigjo]

Alright so you can call it as my first infield report( sorry if I be dramatic)


So this hot chick I was talking about sexualising and all she gave me iois again she was playful with the staff and then I kinda stalked her into smoking lounge and she stared at me. And hey fuck I was getting lots of iois, even from a lady who was probably in her late 30s cause when I saw her staring at me (right in front of the bf) she looked down (guess that's a sign of attraction).

Next I got kinda drunk and as she was exiting she smiled and kept looking in my direction.

Gave myself time and when I exited I told her hey it was awesome had a great time here.she smiled


Went down literally sat there for 45 mins, the club was in a mall, then Hector's famous words "when in doubt follow the dick"


The dick led me there I was waiting there for her, people were staring at me like what the hell he is doing her, she came out of the club.


I said excuse can I talk to you for a minute, and a staff came so I asked her to follow me "can I talk to you for a minute here, she followed, isolated her from the staff".

Then I told her hey I was back there on my way home getting in the car but I came back up just to tell you you have an amazing fashion sense


She said "thank you I am actually a fashion model" and was smiling ear to ear all the time.


She kind of distanced herself from me and I let her do that (comfort being Priorty)

I told her I came in the other day and I noticed you had tattoos and you wore that black dress, dare I say you looked fucking hot ( I couldn't stop myself)


I told her this twice "look if I am making you uncomfortable, I will leave". But I don't wanna have any regrets or anything so I said to myself Fuck it let's do it

She sensed the nervousness and said don't be nervous I am not gonna pounce on you

She kept saying thank you then what she said next was fucking awesome


She said, her words "you know I work here all day, people state at me all the time but no one has the guts to come here and talk to me like that"


Then we rolled on to what she does, she gave me her hand and said her name, I shook it and we talked for a while about her job, complimented on how well she managed the staff


Parted her goodbye saying, see you soon (her name) take care bye,

And walked away

 

[mist]

Good work brody.

- Some people may fault you for not getting her number, but seeing as you frequent the place that might actually come to benefit you if you keep your vibe up and build preselection.

I personally find chicks I see over and over again in venues or SC more compliant and it likely for me to isolate them when I don’t get their contact.

Straight cold approach grab contact info if you don’t have time for more. If you do…push for more.

- One thing you should look into is sexual vs social vibes…in your report I’m not too sure how much of that was her just being nice with mild interest perhaps or actual sexual vibing.

I mean she does work there…from what I surmise it seems to have leaned social but it doesn’t read like there was no vibe and you were simply a customer, plus the eye contact might’ve been a little juicier…not sure just guesses. Worth knowing especially with women working. Also you seemed to make things a bit sexual. Not sure on this one…

But yeah other than that nothing too specific or any tech. Keep working on your AA and just getting in the game and out of practicing in a vacuum.

nice one Bigjo

- Mist

 

[Bigjo]

Good work brody.

- Some people may fault you for not getting her number, but seeing as you frequent the place that might actually come to benefit you if you keep your vibe up and build preselection.

I personally find chicks I see over and over again in venues or SC more compliant and it likely for me to isolate them when I don’t get their contact.

Straight cold approach grab contact info if you don’t have time for more. If you do…push for more.

- One thing you should look into is sexual vs social vibes…in your report I’m not too sure how much of that was her just being nice with mild interest perhaps or actual sexual vibing.

I mean she does work there…from what I surmise it seems to have leaned social but it doesn’t read like there was no vibe and you were simply a customer, plus the eye contact might’ve been a little juicier…not sure just guesses. Worth knowing especially with women working. Also you seemed to make things a bit sexual. Not sure on this one…

But yeah other than that nothing too specific or any tech. Keep working on your AA and just getting in the game and out of practicing in a vacuum.

nice one Bigjo

- Mist

Alright I will be visiting there after a week, what should I do with her next? Yes she works there

 

[mist]

Alright I will be visiting there after a week, what should I do with her next? Yes she works there

Idk bro…talk to her, practice the basics of interacting with a chick, start learning her logistics, go for a close… idk whatever you’d like ig

Next step overall is to meet some other women too. This can easily become oneitis. You’re dealing with AA which means your scarcity is doubled.

Imo do whatever you want can regarding her. Idk nor do I care how this one woman goes. This is super early in your journey and even more than getting this specific chick you have things to learn regarding getting chicks in general and managing your AA.

Maybe someone else has specific shiz for you or do a search on google brody.

TL;DR Idk and imo you learning the basics of interacting with a close in mind and managing your AA is more important than this specific chick.

Update: AH one thing that can help you

What do you think you could’ve done better, what you did well, and what do you think you’ll do next?

Add reflections at the end of your reports. Good for your development and our clarity on what your approach looked like.

 

[StrayDog]

Bigjo stepping into the game ya'll! With a strong field report, nonetheless.

Here are some considerations if you want to continue to game this chick
-Like Mist said, don't get oneitus. Game other girls. Make this your primary objective, instead of getting this one girl.
-If you intend to frequent this spot consider A: how you gaming this woman might affect you gaming in the venue and B: how you gaming in the venue will affect how she perceives you. Personally, I follow a pretty firm "don't shit where you eat" policy when it comes to flirting with staff at my most frequented spots. I am open to crossing that line, but really only if the vibe is firing on all cylinders.
-Be aware that she is at work and that an uncalibrated approach can put her in a weird spot. Like if you are just hanging around waiting for her (especially now that you have expressed interest) she may feel cornered. So go to the venue with the primary intention of going out, and only make connecting with her a thing is the moment presents itself in a smooth way.

Here are a few successful approaches I have had in this sort of scenario (where I have made it clear that I am interested in a staff member at a venue, and return at a later date for a second approach).

Direct (you are there to see her specifically)
In this scenario you go to the venue early, before they are hit with their first big wave.

This can go a couple ways
-If she is clearly very busy you go straight up to her (granted the moment presents itself. You don't want to just be hanging around waiting for her) Hand her your number and confidently say something like "Text me, we're gonna get a drink sometime." If the moment calls for it have a bit of brief banter
Her: Oh thanks
You: Totally. how've you been?
Her: Oh, you know pretty busy
You: Well, yeah. You have a pretty tight ship to run her. We'll catch each other soon captain. (then as you are walking away reiterate, in a firm and non-needy way. Good solid eye contact) Text me.
Now Leave. It is important to keep this brief (don't be so brief that she doesn't have the opportunity to feel your presence though). Walk in with cool confidence, take the time necessary to do the job well, and leave the same way you came in.

-If she is not too busy and has a moment to chat (if she is tending bar and the place is dead, you are golden), you use the opportunity to build a bit more rapport. When you hit a high point you grab her number and suggest a date idea. You don't want to corner her here though. A false time constraint can work well. Like saying you are about to go meet someone up the street but you wanted to stop in and say hello.

Both of these approaches are strong cards on the table approach, which can really land either way. Done well and she will appreciate the directness. But if you didn't make a strong enough first impression or there is not enough rapport, your goose is cooked. If you don't hear from her, just pretend it never happened. Focus your energy and attention elsewhere when you are at the venue and just let her do her job (okay to be polite and brief with her of course). You never know, she sees you with enough social proof and she may come around. You two might have a moment down the line where you two hit it off one night and you can get her to commit to connecting for real. Understand though that if you rub her the wrong way, she could be a real thorn in your side when trying to game there again.

Indirect

This approach is a little different and has a greater chance of success when done well. That said, it requires you to be fairly solid with your game. It is more of a "I'm just out on the town tonight, and you happen to be the lucky lady I am most interested in" approach.

You go into the venue and work the room a bit. Get comfortable. If you cross paths just acknowledge her in a confident manner like "Hey Carla, good to see ya" (solid eye contact), and keep moving. Get some social momentum going. Let her see you with some solid social proof. Give the moment some time to build. Now, when a smooth and natural opportunity presents itself (like when you are ordering a drink, or when she is walking past where you are sitting) say something like "Find me when you get a moment. I am going to grab your number and we can get a drink sometime when you're not working" (good eye contact, solid confident body language). This gives her a low-pressure opportunity. If she is not interested she has an easy out. If she is busy at the moment she has the chance to find you when she is less in the weeds.

If she is interested and has a moment she will just get you her number right away. Don't leave the venue right away after this. That could come across as low value. Like whoopee I got her number now I can leave. Game just a bit longer so she can see you being a boss a bit longer. Building a little intrigue in her mind. Leave the venue on a high point. If you cross paths on the way out smile and with confident eye contact say something like "catch each other soon, Carla" (or something more creative perhaps, whatever feels right).

If she doesn't give you her number right away and says she will find you, game the venue. Make sure you aren't caught by her at a low point though. Like you just wandering around looking like you have no place to be and are having trouble connecting with people. You have to be generating social proof. If she seems to be giving you vibes across the room, feel free send those vibes back a bit (Some solid eye contact across the room, especially when you are chatting with another babe, can do wonders.) just be sure not to over do it. She will find you and you two can have a quick moment of banter (she may also just hand you her number on a paper in passing. if she is still super busy). Don't be too gamey, or over-eager to snatch her digits. Just have a natural conversation with a bit of solid flirtation. Grab her number on a high point in the convo. Get some logistical info (like when she is typically off of work. If she is more into cocktails, or beers. That sort of thing. You might even be able to plant the idea you two meet up when she is off of work that night. But that is a bit of a hail mary and her mood can change when she is done with work). Don't linger. she has to get back to work, after all. Get those digits and tell her you will be in touch. In this case, you are probably pretty clear to leave the venue (granted that is where your vibe is at. Also, you don't want to be seen gaming to many other women too hard at this point. Unless you feel confident you can walk out with one of them, of course. A worthy trade-off ). Since it is not like she gave you her number right away, you have already been hanging around enough (especially if it is later in the evening. You leaving can be a good, subtle, way of showing her that you are sincere in your interest in her and not just running games). Take the time to wrap up any other business you might have of course (like saying by to a few cool people you met). But no need to linger.

If for whatever reason she doesn't seem to be biting. Don't just hang around the venue waiting for her. Be a bit scarce and mysterious. The next time you are at the venue, be way more aloof and unavailable. You might be surprised. Sure she didn't toss you her digits that first night, but now that the groundwork has been set she could very well jump on the opportunity to get you her contact the next time you are around.

Either of the above approaches have worked for me. I have found that if I long game this sort of thing with staff at a venue, it tends to veer more into a social circle style game (or just fizzle out). So if you really want to game her it is probably best to do it sooner than later, in a calibrated smooth manner, with a bit of gusto. Keep in mind that if you bang this woman it could limit the amount of gaming you can do in that venue (for a number of reasons). But then again, if you are a total mack maybe she will hit you with the occasional assist while you are out gaming.

And just to reiterate. Keep gaming other women.

Well done bro. Welcome to the game

 

[Bigjo]

Bigjo stepping into the game ya'll! With a strong field report, nonetheless.

Here are some considerations if you want to continue to game this chick
-Like Mist said, don't get oneitus. Game other girls. Make this your primary objective, instead of getting this one girl.
-If you intend to frequent this spot consider A: how you gaming this woman might affect you gaming in the venue and B: how you gaming in the venue will affect how she perceives you. Personally, I follow a pretty firm "don't shit where you eat" policy when it comes to flirting with staff at my most frequented spots. I am open to crossing that line, but really only if the vibe is firing on all cylinders.
-Be aware that she is at work and that an uncalibrated approach can put her in a weird spot. Like if you are just hanging around waiting for her (especially now that you have expressed interest) she may feel cornered. So go to the venue with the primary intention of going out, and only make connecting with her a thing is the moment presents itself in a smooth way.

Here are a few successful approaches I have had in this sort of scenario (where I have made it clear that I am interested in a staff member at a venue, and return at a later date for a second approach).

Direct (you are there to see her specifically)
In this scenario you go to the venue early, before they are hit with their first big wave.

This can go a couple ways
-If she is clearly very busy you go straight up to her (granted the moment presents itself. You don't want to just be hanging around waiting for her) Hand her your number and confidently say something like "Text me, we're gonna get a drink sometime." If the moment calls for it have a bit of brief banter
Her: Oh thanks
You: Totally. how've you been?
Her: Oh, you know pretty busy
You: Well, yeah. You have a pretty tight ship to run her. We'll catch each other soon captain. (then as you are walking away reiterate, in a firm and non-needy way. Good solid eye contact) Text me.
Now Leave. It is important to keep this brief (don't be so brief that she doesn't have the opportunity to feel your presence though). Walk in with cool confidence, take the time necessary to do the job well, and leave the same way you came in.

-If she is not too busy and has a moment to chat (if she is tending bar and the place is dead, you are golden), you use the opportunity to build a bit more rapport. When you hit a high point you grab her number and suggest a date idea. You don't want to corner her here though. A false time constraint can work well. Like saying you are about to go meet someone up the street but you wanted to stop in and say hello.

Both of these approaches are strong cards on the table approach, which can really land either way. Done well and she will appreciate the directness. But if you didn't make a strong enough first impression or there is not enough rapport, your goose is cooked. If you don't hear from her, just pretend it never happened. Focus your energy and attention elsewhere when you are at the venue and just let her do her job (okay to be polite and brief with her of course). You never know, she sees you with enough social proof and she may come around. You two might have a moment down the line where you two hit it off one night and you can get her to commit to connecting for real. Understand though that if you rub her the wrong way, she could be a real thorn in your side when trying to game there again.

Indirect

This approach is a little different and has a greater chance of success when done well. That said, it requires you to be fairly solid with your game. It is more of a "I'm just out on the town tonight, and you happen to be the lucky lady I am most interested in" approach.

You go into the venue and work the room a bit. Get comfortable. If you cross paths just acknowledge her in a confident manner like "Hey Carla, good to see ya" (solid eye contact), and keep moving. Get some social momentum going. Let her see you with some solid social proof. Give the moment some time to build. Now, when a smooth and natural opportunity presents itself (like when you are ordering a drink, or when she is walking past where you are sitting) say something like "Find me when you get a moment. I am going to grab your number and we can get a drink sometime when you're not working" (good eye contact, solid confident body language). This gives her a low-pressure opportunity. If she is not interested she has an easy out. If she is busy at the moment she has the chance to find you when she is less in the weeds.

If she is interested and has a moment she will just get you her number right away. Don't leave the venue right away after this. That could come across as low value. Like whoopee I got her number now I can leave. Game just a bit longer so she can see you being a boss a bit longer. Building a little intrigue in her mind. Leave the venue on a high point. If you cross paths on the way out smile and with confident eye contact say something like "catch each other soon, Carla" (or something more creative perhaps, whatever feels right).

If she doesn't give you her number right away and says she will find you, game the venue. Make sure you aren't caught by her at a low point though. Like you just wandering around looking like you have no place to be and are having trouble connecting with people. You have to be generating social proof. If she seems to be giving you vibes across the room, feel free send those vibes back a bit (Some solid eye contact across the room, especially when you are chatting with another babe, can do wonders.) just be sure not to over do it. She will find you and you two can have a quick moment of banter (she may also just hand you her number on a paper in passing. if she is still super busy). Don't be too gamey, or over-eager to snatch her digits. Just have a natural conversation with a bit of solid flirtation. Grab her number on a high point in the convo. Get some logistical info (like when she is typically off of work. If she is more into cocktails, or beers. That sort of thing. You might even be able to plant the idea you two meet up when she is off of work that night. But that is a bit of a hail mary and her mood can change when she is done with work). Don't linger. she has to get back to work, after all. Get those digits and tell her you will be in touch. In this case, you are probably pretty clear to leave the venue (granted that is where your vibe is at. Also, you don't want to be seen gaming to many other women too hard at this point. Unless you feel confident you can walk out with one of them, of course. A worthy trade-off ). Since it is not like she gave you her number right away, you have already been hanging around enough (especially if it is later in the evening. You leaving can be a good, subtle, way of showing her that you are sincere in your interest in her and not just running games). Take the time to wrap up any other business you might have of course (like saying by to a few cool people you met). But no need to linger.

If for whatever reason she doesn't seem to be biting. Don't just hang around the venue waiting for her. Be a bit scarce and mysterious. The next time you are at the venue, be way more aloof and unavailable. You might be surprised. Sure she didn't toss you her digits that first night, but now that the groundwork has been set she could very well jump on the opportunity to get you her contact the next time you are around.

Either of the above approaches have worked for me. I have found that if I long game this sort of thing with staff at a venue, it tends to veer more into a social circle style game (or just fizzle out). So if you really want to game her it is probably best to do it sooner than later, in a calibrated smooth manner, with a bit of gusto. Keep in mind that if you bang this woman it could limit the amount of gaming you can do in that venue (for a number of reasons). But then again, if you are a total mack maybe she will hit you with the occasional assist while you are out gaming.

And just to reiterate. Keep gaming other women.

Well done bro. Welcome to the game

Thank you so much for such a detailed response

 

[Beck Bass]

she looked down (guess that's a sign of attraction).

It is, she's looking down to show she's no treat, in hope that you're going to approach her.

Nice one, both @StrayDog and @Mist22 gave you some nice intel. I like how you're following your instincts and not second guessing yourself too much, but I also think you stalled a bit on the opener, like you just kept complimenting her, which is great, but then you have to take that somewhere... I know it's hard, but you gotta try harder to close next time, maybe Stray strats are the way to go (I don't have much experience approaching hired guns, tbh, gonna try those soon if I can).

Good luck