My Hero’s Journey

[Kingkong]

Sitting here in my car, I'm realizing I don’t have any solid options right now. Had to cut off two girls in one week because they didn’t meet my standards and were draining me. Honestly, they were decent, but I settled because I had no other choices. I’m really at my breaking point; I’m tired of not having attractive women I can hit up when I want. No more complaining — starting tomorrow,.
The night before starting daygame.
listening to my favorite spiritual teacher on YouTube and read street hustle by Tom Torreo. I will only listen to subliminals overnight to help with my confidence. My only focus tomorrow is to approach 5 women between the hours of 11 and 1 pm.
I will keep everyone posted.

 

[Kingkong]

My new work location is way farther from downtown compared to my old spot, which was right in the heart of it. That means my only option for daygame now has to be somewhere nearby. There’s a decent target about 15 minutes away, plus a shopping plaza around the same distance. Not a lot of choices on workdays. My other option? Drive 30 minutes to one of the biggest malls in the country.

No matter what, I need to sit down tonight and map out a real schedule for my daygame. Between mortgage payments and raising a kid, life stress can cloud my mind. I was watching a Tom Torero video on financial freedom, and it got me thinking about starting a business. So yeah, my mind is all over the place, I don’t have all the answers yet. But as crazy as it sounds, I feel like daygame will help me focus and set my priorities... or could it do the opposite? Either way, I’m stepping into the hero’s journey.

 

[Kingkong]

Goals for the Week of March 3, 2025​

1. Get Comfortable Approaching Women Anytime, Anywhere
   I struggle to approach women before and after work. After reflecting, I realize it’s likely a state issue or maybe I don’t feel solid in my fundamentals. To fix the state issue, I’ll keep reminding myself where my dating life will be in 10 years if I don’t take this seriously. As for fundamentals, I’ll wear my "game clothes" while doing daygame and bring my work clothes to change into afterward.
2. Commit to Daygame Hours
   • At least 1 hour on workdays
   • At least 2 hours on non-workdays
3. Follow a Structured Approach (London Daygame Model)
   I usually freestyle, but let’s be real—it’s not getting me the results I want. I’ll give the London Daygame Model a shot. What do you think of this model? @bkw Are there better options for a beginner?

That’s it for this week. The main goal is just getting back into the field. I’m sure next week, I’ll have more to focus on, like text game, follow-ups, etc.

Thoughts?

 

[bkw]

Goals for the Week of March 3, 2025​

1. Get Comfortable Approaching Women Anytime, Anywhere
   I struggle to approach women before and after work. After reflecting, I realize it’s likely a state issue or maybe I don’t feel solid in my fundamentals. To fix the state issue, I’ll keep reminding myself where my dating life will be in 10 years if I don’t take this seriously. As for fundamentals, I’ll wear my "game clothes" while doing daygame and bring my work clothes to change into afterward.
2. Commit to Daygame Hours
   • At least 1 hour on workdays
   • At least 2 hours on non-workdays
3. Follow a Structured Approach (London Daygame Model)
   I usually freestyle, but let’s be real—it’s not getting me the results I want. I’ll give the London Daygame Model a shot. What do you think of this model? @bkw Are there better options for a beginner?

That’s it for this week. The main goal is just getting back into the field. I’m sure next week, I’ll have more to focus on, like text game, follow-ups, etc.

Thoughts?

If you feel you need structure, then follow the LDM. That's what it's there for. At least it'll get you approaching, getting into conversations, and learning how to close. It goes into specifics like what to say, etc., so you can fall back on something. Once you get comfortable talking to women in general, you can freestyle if you can hold decent conversations, and then close. GL!

If you don't like the LDM, then try something else. I personally don't think it's the holy grail, but it'll get you approaching and into conversations and learning how to converse. That's the point. You'll have to take note of what you can do better along the way and then learn to close

 

[Kingkong]

Hit up Target today and wandered around a bit. Didn’t make any approaches in the morning, but I did squeeze one in during lunch. Ended up chatting with a below average woman, not exactly my dream girl, but right now, I’m just focused on stacking positive references.

My opening was solid, and she actually offered her number. Tried to roll with a handcuff joke I referenced in person over text, but it flopped. @Skills , feel free to weigh in.

Game plan for tomorrow stays the same—hit the streets for an hour and approach as many as possible. Noticed my mindset shifted after coffee this morning—got jittery and stuck in my head, which probably killed my momentum despite seeing plenty of solo shoppers worth talking to.

Goals for tomorrow:

1. One hour of daygame—minimum of four approaches.
2. Switch to decaf.

 

[Kingkong]

https://imgur.com/a/ld6iK9f

 

[Skills]

Hit up Target today and wandered around a bit. Didn’t make any approaches in the morning, but I did squeeze one in during lunch. Ended up chatting with a below average woman, not exactly my dream girl, but right now, I’m just focused on stacking positive references.

My opening was solid, and she actually offered her number. Tried to roll with a handcuff joke I referenced in person over text, but it flopped. @Skills , feel free to weigh in.

Game plan for tomorrow stays the same—hit the streets for an hour and approach as many as possible. Noticed my mindset shifted after coffee this morning—got jittery and stuck in my head, which probably killed my momentum despite seeing plenty of solo shoppers worth talking to.

Goals for tomorrow:

1. One hour of daygame—minimum of four approaches.
2. Switch to decaf.

Just take approaching as a win.... As long as you approach is a win for now... what is a handcuff joke?? you did not post the text

 

[Skills]

https://imgur.com/a/ld6iK9f

this opening was good...where is the rest?

 

[Kingkong]

Field Report: Lessons from Three Approaches at Target


Went to Target and made some approaches. Didn’t go as planned, but there were some takeaways. Here’s how it went down:


Approach #1: Target Employee


Asked a girl working at Target where the salad was. She told me. I followed up by asking her name, and she hit me with a cold, "I'm working." Conversation dead on arrival.


Approach #2: The Instant Eject


Saw a girl, thought she was cute, and went up to say hi. Before I could get anything out, she immediately said, "I'm a minor." I asked how old—she said 16. That was my cue to abort mission immediately.


Approach #3: Girl with the Dog


Saw a girl in Target carrying a small dog. Asked what kind it was, then if I could pet it. While petting the dog, I talked about my past dogs and joked that she looked like she came for one thing but was about to leave with way more. She laughed and admitted she was actually confused about what to get for her dog since it was her first time shopping for it.


This was my perfect chance to step up, show some knowledge, and lead the conversation—but instead, I basically told her, "You're on your own." Energy dropped, she lost interest, but I still went for the close. She said she was married. I pointed out the missing ring, and she said she rushed out and forgot it. I asked if she had room for friends—she said no.


Takeaways:


• Biggest issue? I wasn’t comfortable in any of these interactions. Felt like I was being watched, which made me hesitant.


• Left opportunities on the table because I was too in my head.


• Positives: I actually went out and made approaches. That’s progress.


• Negatives: Need to be more comfortable, take control, and lead the interaction. Women pick up on that energy fast.


• The girl with the dog was a perfect opportunity to lead, and I bailed. Lesson learned.


Moral of the story: Confidence and leadership matter. Gotta stop overthinking and own the moment.

 

[Kingkong]

Saw a girl, thought she was cute, and went up to say hi. Before I could get anything out, she immediately said, "I'm a minor." I asked how old—she said 16. That was my cue to abort mission immediately

What’s a playful response to not feel awkward in situations like this?

 

[OldGuy]

"You act very mature."

 

[Kingkong]

Anyone interested in. Check out my blog.

Field Report: Target run

Field Report: Lessons from Three Approaches at Target Went to Target and made some approaches. Didn’t go as planned, but there were some ta...

urban-grind.blogspot.com

 

[Kingkong]

Nothing major since my last update. In the past two days, I made 7 or 8 approaches, 2 total blowouts, 5 actual conversations, and 1 number that ended up flaking.

On the bright side, I’m settling into the routine of approaching and rolling with whatever happens, so I’ll give myself some credit for that. I forgot how much effort and volume it really takes to get sharp at this again, but hey, that’s the game.

For a deeper dive into the interactions, check out my blog link below.

Shaking Off the Rust: Getting Back Into the Game

Getting back out there again, and wow—forgot how much work it actually takes to start conversations with random strangers. Still, I’m enjoyi...

urban-grind.blogspot.com

 

[Kingkong]

Just take approaching as a win.... As long as you approach is a win for now... what is a handcuff joke?? you did not post the text

Yes I absolutely agree with viewing approaching as a win it’s makes it a lot easier.

While we were talking, we spotted some cops, and I jokingly brought up handcuffs, asking her what color she preferred. She hesitated to answer in the moment, but as she was leaving, I still got her number. When I texted her later, I tried to keep the joke going.

 

[Kingkong]

We met up later in the night and had a great connection. I used some playful teasing, close proximity, and strong eye contact. I asked her about her plans, and she mentioned she was heading home from work and had to work the next morning. I then took her phone and texted myself (below). She seemed interested. I did a soft close but wasn’t sure if I should’ve done some banter first??. Here’s how it went:

Her: Hey, this is [her name].
Me: Hey, this is [my name]. Lock me in!
(She hearts the message and replies an hour later.)
Her: How’s your night going?
Me: Good, just getting home. What about you?
Her: It was good, I just got home not too long ago.
Me: Oh, okay. You should take a break from being bored and meet up with your future favorite person.
Her: Maybe later this week, I have work tomorrow.
Me: Alright, I’ll be busy most of the week, but maybe Thursday?

 

[Kingkong]

Her: Hey, this is [her name].
Me: Hey, this is [my name]. Lock me in!
(She hearts the message and replies an hour later.)
Her: How’s your night going?
Me: Good, just getting home. What about you?
Her: It was good, I just got home not too long ago.
Me: Oh, okay. You should take a break from being bored and meet up with your future favorite person.
Her: Maybe later this week, I have work tomorrow.
Me: Alright, I’ll be busy most of the week, but maybe Thursday?

Her: okay i’ll see i got work everyday this week
Me: Alright, get some rest and sweet dreams!
Her: you too
Next day:
Her: good morning
Me: Good Morning
Later in the afternoon : this is where I think I starting to messed up and the bold is where I think further went down hill
Me: hey cutie how is your day going
Her: it’s going good hbu
Me: Good wyd
Her: abt to leave work hbu
Me: At work till 10
Her: oh okay
Me: Thinking about yesterday. I really like your energy tho ( laying my cards to early?)
Her: you too thank you
Me: Even tho you was high as a kite
Her: lol
Me: Next time, you better share lol
Her: lol
Me: You probably high rn
Me: what’s the wildest thing you've done high?
Her: nothing
Me: Come on, tell me, I’m bored at work
Me: I promise I won’t judge or tell your secrets
Her:i don’t be doing nothing
Me: facts( she hearts this message)
Her:you got kids or wife or anything
Me: yeah one
Her: i’m ctfu no

Could someone diagnose my text message exchange and provide feedback

 

[bkw]

have you met this girl yet on a date? or is this a number you took from a girl you approached and this is you trying to get her out on the first date?

My honest feedback is there is too much texting going on. You're laying it on too thick, and she's not really chasing but reacting to you with not too much investment, which isn't ideal. Very little texting is needed to get a girl out, and the more you text her, especially asking her questions, etc., the more you seem desperate. Save the conversation for in-person. Use texting mainly to get her out and not so much getting-to-know-her. Also, the daily "hey how are you" stuff is too much. When you get a girl's number, you text her a few things back and forth, then you proceed to date invite. Beyond that, especially the days in-between the meetup, the more you text her the more desperate you look.

Good stuff though! Keep it up!

 

[Kingkong]

have you met this girl yet on a date? or is this a number you took from a girl you approached and this is you trying to get her out on the first date?

My honest feedback is there is too much texting going on. You're laying it on too thick, and she's not really chasing but reacting to you with not too much investment, which isn't ideal. Very little texting is needed to get a girl out, and the more you text her, especially asking her questions, etc., the more you seem desperate. Save the conversation for in-person. Use texting mainly to get her out and not so much getting-to-know-her. Also, the daily "hey how are you" stuff is too much. When you get a girl's number, you text her a few things back and forth, then you proceed to date invite. Beyond that, especially the days in-between the meetup, the more you text her the more desperate you look.

Good stuff though! Keep it up!

Yeah that’s the advice I heard going around but what about when she sends a message like this
Her: oh okay why you ain’t tm all day

 

[Kingkong]

have you met this girl yet on a date? or is this a number you took from a girl you approached and this is you trying to get her out on the first date?

Yes I’m trying to get a first date but it seem like she want to build comfort through text. I tried to set the date and she gave me maybe twice at this point I’m just going with the flow and see what happens

 

[bkw]

here's an example of the "Yes girl" I approached the other day:


Me: "Ha, random, but always cool to meet marathon runners! Jk Enjoy your coffee. You're very pretty -My name

Her: Hey [my name]! Sorry for the late reply! Hope you enjoyed your nap haha

Me: "Omg, I did! I needed it. Hope you enjoyed your cofee. Will you be bouncing off the walls for the rest of the night now? ;P"

Her: Tbh, that place didn't serve coffee so i'm having coffee now. I might stay up all night

Me: Hm, I'd love to join a pretty girl like you for cofee tonight, but unfortunately I have plans already!

Me: Are you a fan of beer/wine?

Her: Haha I'm actually with my friends too

Her: Tbh, beer haha

Me: Nice! Perhaps next week we can grab a drink in midtwon? I'll shoot you an invite soon if you're interested

Her: Sure! what abt Wednesday next week after work??

Me: That could work I'll shoot you a text soon about the details... in the meantime, GL on the cofee hangover

Her: perfect! Have a great wknd and talk to you next week!


This was all in one day. The main thing is I knew she was interested via the approach, and in her texting she seemed excited (she's investing and putting forth effort, which uninterested girls don't put much effort in), she's asking questions (investing), she offered a day for the date on her own accord (a good sign), she's using forms of emojis (another form of caring/investing, which uninterested girls don't care to do usually), she's also responsive and within respectable time limits (i'm not waiting for a day or longer to get a text back, which is a bad sign).

My first text is a slight tease to remind her of who i am and the conversation. I then clearly state my intent by saying she's very pretty (no friend-to-friend date projections going on here!). I get a little back and forth conversation so I don't jump straight into the date invite. She mentions she didn't have coffee but yet she might stay up all night (saturday), which you can take that she's open for a possible date that night or meet up (possibly). I told her I'd love "to join a pretty girl like you" but I have plans already, so i'm stating that this is no friend shit. I then probe her from the agreed coffee date to a bar date as it's more sexual venue when i ask if she's a fan of beer/wine. Great sign when she says she likes beer enthusiastically. I then do the bar date invite. She agrees by suggesting a day herself (huge sign of interest). I don't have any particular bar in mind yet, and also Wednsday is like 4 days away, so I tell her I'll shoot her a text about the details soon. Then I don't text her again until I have the date and logistics set up in my plan. I don't text her in-between those two days, not once. It would look needy and it's completely unnecessary and would make me look needy af