My post break up journey

[HeartOfChaos]

Yeah. Yet once again my experiences confirm what the real world is vs the pua lala land many guys here seem to operate in.

Just got a number of a 27 year old. Again got “how old are you” question. I said 35 - I am already forced to lie to quite few women. She said “you are almost at the limit, I don’t like too big of a difference “.

That’s the reality in the western world with western chicks.

 

[HeartOfChaos]

Yeah. Yet once again my experiences confirm what the real world is vs the pua lala land many guys here seem to operate in.

Just got a number of a 27 year old. Again got “how old are you” question. I said 35 - I am already forced to lie to quite few women. She said “you are almost at the limit, I don’t like too big of a difference “.

That’s the reality in the western world with western chicks.

P.S. and she wasn’t even that cute.

 

[HeartOfChaos]

P.S. and she wasn’t even that cute.

Contrast these responses with , say ,girls of Middle Eastern origins who are more than happy to date much older guys, from my direct experience.

 

[KnownUniverse]

Middle East is very conservative it’s probably still considered normal over there to date a much older man. The uk is hyper feminist progressive - old men are considered the patriarchal enemy of society.

 

[HeartOfChaos]

Look, you find those other girls hot you say. But what do you actually look for in a partner then. I can tell you right away that to me, here, you don't seem to sincerely know what you would value in a prospective partner. What do you want out of life? A friend? A statussymbol? Obviously not mindblowing sex because then the hot would outweight the ethnicity thing.

So you would choose a woman for a potential serious relationship only based on how hot she is?

I often see many women are objectively hot. I see less women who are "hot" to me subjectively. For example, many men find blonde scandinavian or baltic types hot. I don't like them, and so don't often approach such types, but I can see that many of them are hot by average society standards.

Subjectively or objectively hot, though, doesn't mean that I want to be with them long term. And "hot" is not strictly 100% directly correlated with mindblowing sex" either.

 

[KnownUniverse]

The only time i get anywhere with younger women is during night game at bars. With day game the numbers go nowhere. Too much thinking i suspect.

 

[HeartOfChaos]

The only time i get anywhere with younger women is during night game at bars. With day game the numbers go nowhere. Too much thinking i suspect.

As I wrote here time and time again, all my experience points to two things as to why daygame numbers often tend to go nowhere with younger women:

1. Lack of raw animalistic attraction on their part
2. They usually have many other safer / better / more socially acceptable options

And this is the killer for a typical guy who tries daygame.

I've come across maybe 10 or so guys in real life who tried daygame. None of them got good results, as far as I know, except perhaps one guy, unless they went for "easier" options - i.e. a white guy hitting on a girl of far eastern origin, or a tourist looking for some short term fling, etc. It really is a case of SMV playing out.

And what's interesting is that quite a lot of these guys had some degree of assburgers (quite noticeable with a few of them, which clearly affected their results I imagine). It seems assburgers and pua go hand in hand. Lol. I got better results overall than all of them, not least because I was taller, better dressed and actually normal.

I'd say only one of the 10 I met was completely "normal" guy - and he was a pretty heavy poster on the pua-zone, I met him back in 2014. He had nearly a hundred lays from online, bars, clubs and social circle. He tried daygame in London one summer, and got nowhere.

Funnily he said to me "congratulations, you are the only normal guy I ever met from pua forums" - seems he also ran into the assburgers phenomenon time and time again...

Then I met another guy from pua-zone. He was relatively normal, but obsessed as fuck with "frame control" to the extent that when I went to get a coffee with him upon meeting, when I offered to buy him a coffee he was almost indignant like "no no, I can get it myself" - I was thinking "wtf man, are you so obsessed with this"

 

[Skills]

As I wrote here time and time again, all my experience points to two things as to why daygame numbers often tend to go nowhere with younger women:

1. Lack of raw animalistic attraction on their part
2. They usually have many other safer / better / more socially acceptable options

And this is the killer for a typical guy who tries daygame.

I've come across maybe 10 or so guys in real life who tried daygame. None of them got good results, as far as I know, except perhaps one guy, unless they went for "easier" options - i.e. a white guy hitting on a girl of far eastern origin, or a tourist looking for some short term fling, etc. It really is a case of SMV playing out.

And what's interesting is that quite a lot of these guys had some degree of assburgers (quite noticeable with a few of them, which clearly affected their results I imagine). It seems assburgers and pua go hand in hand. Lol. I got better results overall than all of them, not least because I was taller, better dressed and actually normal.

I'd say only one of the 10 I met was completely "normal" guy - and he was a pretty heavy poster on the pua-zone, I met him back in 2014. He had nearly a hundred lays from online, bars, clubs and social circle. He tried daygame in London one summer, and got nowhere.

Funnily he said to me "congratulations, you are the only normal guy I ever met from pua forums" - seems he also ran into the assburgers phenomenon time and time again...

Interesting all pua guys i met real life are cool...i never met the Asperger's type... Even one i met claimed to have Asperger's was cool and normal, just complained a bit..

 

[HeartOfChaos]

Interesting all pua giys i met resl life are cool...i never met the Asperger's type... Even one i met claimed to have Asperger's was cool and normal, just completed a bit..

Maybe just my luck. Several of them clearly had visible signs that something was "off" with them - strange mannerisms, eye contact, some other behaviour patterns that I cannot quite describe...Not strong signs, no, but certainly noticeable to a degree....

 

[KJ Francis]

Are you doing night game at all?

You are an approach machine... can you record audio and run it through speech-to-text?

There's got to be something to tweak... I'm still guessing the vibe is "I like you, do you like me?"