Hey seducer bros,
Would love to hear your feedback on my progress! Chase, Colt, anyone!
I originally posted this on comments on Chase articles, so disregard the wordings! You're all great influence and smart people!
Thanks for all your advice bro.
Really helped me up my efficiency as I go out doing more approaches and shrug off at
responses (negative or positive) and keep doing what's needed to be done. I've been doing 3
approaches each day in weeks.
What number of approaches should we do each week/day?
Is there a plan you can lay out for number of approaches and when to increase it?
I don't want to get burnt out as you said in a post somewhere to do 3 each day so we don't get burnt out. But in some posts such as Natural vs. PUA, you say, progress varies for everyone, and so some who approaches 20 to 30 a day will definitely progress faster than 1 or 2. Which seems difficult to me in daygame. Night game, we all know what's the deal and can easily move to the next in a packed venue. Tons there, tons to approach. But daygame, all of them are scattered. We can't mass approach that easily since it's broad daylight and everyone can see and perhaps be affected before we even approach them. (Since I only do day game right now, because I don't like loud music and not much of an energetic person). Approaching 20 30 women on street, transit, or coffee shop seems a bit off in these small social environments. Correct me if I'm wrong and I'll just go with it and see. But I've encountered some scenarios such as the girl who I approached earlier sees me approaching another for example or moving to the next girl on the same subway in front of the current one I'm interacting who isn't interested. If I approach one girl walking down the street, and then she rejects me and I immediately approach the one behind her and repeat...Feels like something off. What do you think Chase?
Oh and how do we deal with group dynamics when a girl isn't alone?
I tried approaching before, either girls exchanged eye contact with each other, with no particular look, (Probably the girl I approached was seeing how her friend reacts, but her friend just looks at me and then looks at her phone). Or when there are guys surrounding her, should I engage the guys or just the girl? If I do engage the guys too, how do I make sure the girl knows I'm interested and not just being social?
Hey Chase,
Have been taking time recently and reflecting on how I'm doing and why I'm not getting more leads to dates.
<strong>Trouble-shooting</strong>
How should I set my routine?
Before my goal was, "I'm gonna approach 3 girls and say hi at least every time I'm out (When I was out due to having something to attend to that is)."
But then I got unsatisfied. I wanted to engage them in conversation. So every time I approached 3, I would try to start conversation. Most of them lit on fire (in a bad way) but it was great for a couple weeks.
I got even more greedy. I remember telling myself, "I won't approach today. I have a busy day and I'm sick" Yet, I found myself talking to someone, saying hi to people who pass by me, and engaging girls I just happen to come across in chat.
Then it became a natural thing I would do, albeit a painful one for the majority. See a girl I like, approach. I stopped counting and didn't realize I was approaching 5-8 girls until I wrote every entry in my log report.
<strong>And then I did some reflection. </strong>
Sure, I managed to deep dive, test a few things, have short conversations (dies very quickly when she gives nothing much to keep it going and I can't think of things to keep it going) . But it didn't go anywhere, no numbers. (either I didn't make the hook point or it was SO CLOSE!! The one that got away!).
Or she was being polite and was uninterested.
Now I hesitate to approach again, because I want to figure out how to refine my approach... And thinking = Not shooting first, asking later...
<strong> When to jump ship? </strong>
Generally, I approach. Ask how her day is, deep dive if she gives me anything to work on; if she's giving me her attention or quickly away (ex. at her phone); and whether she's asking me questions and trying to keep up the conversation.
When it's no to 2/3, usually I don't know what else to do and just sit there. I want to jump ship but would it be too early? Perhaps something else I could do instead to make her more receptive and open, put more to keep conversation going, or even chase? (Can only think of intrigue, but I hardly can pull intrigue out of thin air at this point of interaction. I tried!)
Bidding good bye after a girl isn't that hot about you?
And approach the next one right in front of her in the same place (ex. bus) or venue (ex. function, day event or nightclub)? Is this ok at all times or at some situations or not at all?
Note: What about the player vibe we give off from this?
Goal setting.
In my trouble shooting, you see how I progressed (a big thanks to you and all your writers). But in terms of goals, any feedback? I feel there's so much to improve, and so little time. I want to improve more! It feels conversation is my sticky point.
Hair and fashion
I think hair is one of the things keeping me back. You mentioned about "attractively messy" in a comment somewhere. What does that look like? Do I need to gel? I usually don't have time so I just comb it and head out. As for fashion, how do we refine it so we're top sexy (letting our fundamentals do the work) and developing an eye for good clothes matching for a good look(without being too expensive)?
Yours,
Lawliet
Would love to hear your feedback on my progress! Chase, Colt, anyone!
I originally posted this on comments on Chase articles, so disregard the wordings! You're all great influence and smart people!
Thanks for all your advice bro.
Really helped me up my efficiency as I go out doing more approaches and shrug off at
responses (negative or positive) and keep doing what's needed to be done. I've been doing 3
approaches each day in weeks.
What number of approaches should we do each week/day?
Is there a plan you can lay out for number of approaches and when to increase it?
I don't want to get burnt out as you said in a post somewhere to do 3 each day so we don't get burnt out. But in some posts such as Natural vs. PUA, you say, progress varies for everyone, and so some who approaches 20 to 30 a day will definitely progress faster than 1 or 2. Which seems difficult to me in daygame. Night game, we all know what's the deal and can easily move to the next in a packed venue. Tons there, tons to approach. But daygame, all of them are scattered. We can't mass approach that easily since it's broad daylight and everyone can see and perhaps be affected before we even approach them. (Since I only do day game right now, because I don't like loud music and not much of an energetic person). Approaching 20 30 women on street, transit, or coffee shop seems a bit off in these small social environments. Correct me if I'm wrong and I'll just go with it and see. But I've encountered some scenarios such as the girl who I approached earlier sees me approaching another for example or moving to the next girl on the same subway in front of the current one I'm interacting who isn't interested. If I approach one girl walking down the street, and then she rejects me and I immediately approach the one behind her and repeat...Feels like something off. What do you think Chase?
Oh and how do we deal with group dynamics when a girl isn't alone?
I tried approaching before, either girls exchanged eye contact with each other, with no particular look, (Probably the girl I approached was seeing how her friend reacts, but her friend just looks at me and then looks at her phone). Or when there are guys surrounding her, should I engage the guys or just the girl? If I do engage the guys too, how do I make sure the girl knows I'm interested and not just being social?
Hey Chase,
Have been taking time recently and reflecting on how I'm doing and why I'm not getting more leads to dates.
<strong>Trouble-shooting</strong>
How should I set my routine?
Before my goal was, "I'm gonna approach 3 girls and say hi at least every time I'm out (When I was out due to having something to attend to that is)."
But then I got unsatisfied. I wanted to engage them in conversation. So every time I approached 3, I would try to start conversation. Most of them lit on fire (in a bad way) but it was great for a couple weeks.
I got even more greedy. I remember telling myself, "I won't approach today. I have a busy day and I'm sick" Yet, I found myself talking to someone, saying hi to people who pass by me, and engaging girls I just happen to come across in chat.
Then it became a natural thing I would do, albeit a painful one for the majority. See a girl I like, approach. I stopped counting and didn't realize I was approaching 5-8 girls until I wrote every entry in my log report.
<strong>And then I did some reflection. </strong>
Sure, I managed to deep dive, test a few things, have short conversations (dies very quickly when she gives nothing much to keep it going and I can't think of things to keep it going) . But it didn't go anywhere, no numbers. (either I didn't make the hook point or it was SO CLOSE!! The one that got away!).
Or she was being polite and was uninterested.
Now I hesitate to approach again, because I want to figure out how to refine my approach... And thinking = Not shooting first, asking later...
<strong> When to jump ship? </strong>
Generally, I approach. Ask how her day is, deep dive if she gives me anything to work on; if she's giving me her attention or quickly away (ex. at her phone); and whether she's asking me questions and trying to keep up the conversation.
When it's no to 2/3, usually I don't know what else to do and just sit there. I want to jump ship but would it be too early? Perhaps something else I could do instead to make her more receptive and open, put more to keep conversation going, or even chase? (Can only think of intrigue, but I hardly can pull intrigue out of thin air at this point of interaction. I tried!)
Bidding good bye after a girl isn't that hot about you?
And approach the next one right in front of her in the same place (ex. bus) or venue (ex. function, day event or nightclub)? Is this ok at all times or at some situations or not at all?
Note: What about the player vibe we give off from this?
Goal setting.
In my trouble shooting, you see how I progressed (a big thanks to you and all your writers). But in terms of goals, any feedback? I feel there's so much to improve, and so little time. I want to improve more! It feels conversation is my sticky point.
Hair and fashion
I think hair is one of the things keeping me back. You mentioned about "attractively messy" in a comment somewhere. What does that look like? Do I need to gel? I usually don't have time so I just comb it and head out. As for fashion, how do we refine it so we're top sexy (letting our fundamentals do the work) and developing an eye for good clothes matching for a good look(without being too expensive)?
Yours,
Lawliet
