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Mystery vs Ross Jeffries “debate”

Bill

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So Mystery and Ross Jeffries did a “debate” just now


My thoughts are:

- it’s nice to see them have a friendly discussion given back in their commercial peak they constantly sniped at each other (mostly from Ross tbh)

- a lot of the disagreement boils down to Ross saying seduction is an emotional process the woman goes through that doesn’t have a set order, but Mystery insisting it is a specific sequence. This is one reason I appreciate the VAC model because it models the main components to produce a result but isn’t tied to a rigid sequence.

- Ross doesn’t seem to understand the concept of value. He basically says that we can‘t detect what genes have more survivability accurately. I don’t know why Mystery didn‘y point out that its our own evolved mechanism for attraction is precisely this. He should have said for the same reason Ross would be interested in a supermodel vs a 900 lb woman with a beard, even if he doesn’t logically know which genes are actually better he is still primed to be drawn to certain traits, the same goes for a woman detecting value in a man.
 

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What is the vac model??... They are both right, both too dogmatic, and set up in their ways... Most people end up doing a bit of both of their methods in successful seductions, even if they don't follow either one...
 
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Jan

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I only watched few minutes but it's pretty boring from Ross' side. It seems like his main intention for this discussion is promoting his own method and attacking Mystery's. It's especially annoying because he is not even trying to understand Mystery, just spitting his points why he thinks Mystery is wrong and his method is best.
 

Bill

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What is the vac model??... They are both right, both too dogmatic, and set up in their ways... Most people end up doing a bit of both of their methods in successful seductions, even if they don't follow either one...
 
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