Nearing subscription date

Brentwoodbam

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This question is for Chase in particular, and it is in reference to the recent post that there will be subscription fees for blog reading. Without making the question too elaborate: Will there be any incentive for your long-time readers? I saw a figure of 20 bucks a month to read blogs, which for a college student who pays all of his own bills sounds a bit tough, especially when in the back of my mind I will tell myself that I have gotten enough from the site to move on with pick-up, even though I find myself referencing and going back over posts every single day.

With all that being said, are there any plans for a one-time offer of a discount to continue reading the blogs (maybe 10 or 15 bucks a month, i know this is pinching pennies)? Maybe through exclusive the exclusive e-mail list to really get through to the dedicated readers? All this is simply because I would hate to have this site limited to me because of financial issues.

Thanks much,
Brentwood
 

Verisimilitude

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Another thing that I am wondering is if this forum will follow those same rules. I would still like to interact with all of you, but I never have been able to do the whole monthly subscription thing. (I understand completely and wish you the best of luck though). I will still visit the site regularly and recommend it to other people as well.
 

Chase

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Hey fellas,

We're still probably a good month or so off at least. Some technical difficulties getting the paywall up... apparently the non-giant paywall companies that exist out there (TinyPass, Cleeng, etc.) have zero customer support. I talked to one of the big companies and was horrified at their pricing, but the representative said they were worth it because they had "customer support." I was like, "Pssh, EVERYONE has customer support! You can't get customers without customer support, especially in a business where you're managing other business's entire income streams! Businesses won't USE you if you don't!" Well... apparently that's why the smaller companies don't have any customers. Can't exactly say I understand the business strategy there... anyway, I'm having a custom solution built now, which is more hassle, and takes a bit longer, but at least we won't have to have an important part of the business reliant on a party that won't communicate at all with you (really, really dangerous in the event of anything weird or bad ever happening, ever).

@ Brent,

Brentwoodbam said:
Will there be any incentive for your long-time readers? I saw a figure of 20 bucks a month to read blogs, which for a college student who pays all of his own bills sounds a bit tough, especially when in the back of my mind I will tell myself that I have gotten enough from the site to move on with pick-up, even though I find myself referencing and going back over posts every single day.

With all that being said, are there any plans for a one-time offer of a discount to continue reading the blogs (maybe 10 or 15 bucks a month, i know this is pinching pennies)? Maybe through exclusive the exclusive e-mail list to really get through to the dedicated readers? All this is simply because I would hate to have this site limited to me because of financial issues.

Yeah, I understand... pretty tough when you're paying your own bills and you've really got to scrimp and save and cut expenses. I've put it down as something to explore building into the system later on some way of checking for .edu email addresses to offer a student discount of some kind, but right now the business just don't have the manpower or the funding to tackle the overhead of expanding the project in a whole lot of different directions from the get-go. For now, it's get things up and running, and see where the pieces fall.

It sounds like you might even be at a point where you don't need the site all that much anymore, or that it isn't worth it for you at 20 bucks a month, which, yeah, plenty of people it won't be worth it, I'm sure. There are a lot of ways you can spend $20, and the articles on here might not be the best of those ways. If there were a way of instituting some kind of "pay what you like / pay what you can afford" system and have it realistically fund the business to reasonable levels, I'd do it, but those systems really don't work. I've tried things like that before... even tried out donations a while back. Brought in a grand total of zero dollars.

The one discount we may have (it's not certain though, so don't hold me to it) is for product owners who want to subscribe. So if you've bought the book or videos or package, you might have a discounted rate for a certain number of months, depending on the product purchased... but, nothing's promised there yet. I'm not sure if that's technically feasible for right away; have to talk to the developer.

@ Runner,

cccrunner said:
Another thing that I am wondering is if this forum will follow those same rules. I would still like to interact with all of you, but I never have been able to do the whole monthly subscription thing. (I understand completely and wish you the best of luck though). I will still visit the site regularly and recommend it to other people as well.

Nope, the forum has absolutely nothing to do with articles or metered access. I understand on the subscription preferences, and you have my appreciation for any recommendations!

Chase
 

PinotNoir

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*bump*

A couple of ideas I had.

1.) Could subscribers get articles a little earlier? For example, there are a lot of sites where if you pay for a subscription, you get the article 1 day earlier. I guess what they're actually doing is suppressing the public release 1 day, so people may not like this idea, but it could be an incentive to purchase the subscription. Anything over 3 days is probably way too much and would cause some resentment/anger.

2.) Subscribers submit questions. Then once a month you create an article answering a random assortment of these questions. It's not guaranteed that you'll question will be answered -- because this would be hard if have 1000+ subscribers unless you queued it. I know this is what the forum is for, but these questions would get a lot more detail to the answer. I know you also do this a lot with current articles where it's based off one user question. The forum and that way would still exist, but this would just be an added thing on top of this.
 

Altimeter

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Here's my opinion. Lets train the guys that have been on the girls chase boards for a while so we have 2 sorts of forum users.
The Advanced, that writes a lot of great articles around and increases the forum's quality
The Newbies, they want the attention and the knowledge of the advanced and they're ready to pay for it.

THe problem I've noticed on the forum is that there is a lack of people with good experience compared to the newbies.

Eventually most posts are directed as beginners questions such as, I did this this this, I might lose her, please help I need her etc.


If the board and the GC crew gets more staff, the guys that pay 20$ gets to ask a number of questions to Chase or the other instructors, depending on the number of subscribers. They also have Skype option, which may cost like 180$ dollars for 1:30 minutes first call or a long term plan that works on handling fundamentals and being good with women in general.

Instructors are made like celebrities, we give them traits like "hopeless romantic, believes in true love, long term specialist"- whatever, this guy will refer to questions coming from guys with 0 experience who are set on one girl.

Then there's your bad boy, goes out each night, screws girls left and right. We put some videos of him in action, he will answer the questions of guys who want to get laid regularly and aren't set on a single girl, etc.


The staff may be selected from the best posters on GC forums. There may also be competitions to determine who gets to spend a week with Chase in Vegas or some other cool place like L.A. picking up women and partying. Chosen after a number of points each guy gets for writing great material on the forum. Winner must pay for his own transportation


Not to mention the site along with the people representing it must be ALWAYS down to earth. Since this isn't a sleazy PUA site, this is to help REAL guys, get REAL women.
 

PinotNoir

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Altimeter said:
They also have Skype option, which may cost like 180$ dollars for 1:30 minutes first call or a long term plan that works on handling fundamentals and being good with women in general.

I can't see anyone ever paying that, but that may just be me. I'd never pay that personally. Forums are just as good as a Skype call IMO.

There may also be competitions to determine who gets to spend a week with Chase in Vegas or some other cool place like L.A. picking up women and partying. Chosen after a number of points each guy gets for writing great material on the forum. Winner must pay for his own transportation

I like the idea of spending a vacation week with Chase or Franco (or Ricardus, but never see him on here) -- no homo haha. I'd be fine with a group too as opposed to solo. 5 guys spend a week with Chase/Franco (guys would live in separate hotel rooms, not actually with Chase/Franco). Chase lives in China I think though, so would be quite pricey. Then they meet up before going out for Chase/Franco to go over stuff. Then go out to club/bar/etc.

I'm sure the 2 of them are really busy though, and this would have to have money involved. I can't see this as a "you won a free week with Chase/Franco!' thing -- even though that'd be awesome. If they work during the day, they wouldn't even have to take vacation off if just do after work only. And during the day, you get to spend time in a city you've never been in before.

As for your other ideas, I'm not a big fan, no offense. You may hate my ideas also. I think it's good throwing ideas out there though to brainstorm, etc., so not trying to discourage.
 

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I am outraged and wil now make fun of your reply and will start calling you names


Really I think forums should be the place discuss and realize new techniques while searching for potential new prodigies. Instead of constantly whining about unnecessary matters. Kinda like an online science lab.

Because asking questions like, "duh should I look at her? or if i say her name will she fuck me?" are lowering quality. So, the more the talented people posting on forums= more interest in the forums
(I know 2-3 forums like that, that got fucked up because of its retarded content)


Chase may be busy, the point is to have a reward for either being loyal to the forum or posting good content and a punishment for posting needy unnecessary content, etc.
Again the reward may be anything, Skype call with the team, whatever. All good pua sites need youtube videos, It's great publicity and it increases believability. I'd recommend with giving normal advice to actual men as a site theme. For one it disses the Sleazy PUA stuff and competition and its relatable


I've seen a few other sites that do Skype coaching, I think it's a brilliant technique to go over your fundamentals and other issues with your success over women
 
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