So two questions...
There is a girl that I went out on a date with. We met at a cafe near her house, talked for about half an hour, then I moved her to my car and drove her to my house. She didn't even ask where we were going, she just complied when I said, "we should get out of here." So, we get to my house and we begin to physically escalate. I tried to pull down her bra like 5 times but she stopped me every time. She said, "I don't even know you." In response, I said, "But you do, I'm me".
Ealier, I read the article, "how to get laid," and it said that if a girl says this, then you have already failed because you failed on the date. I think I failed because I didn't tell her much about myself! Haha sounds silly, I know, most guys end up talking only about themselves... But me, I turned everything back to her, and I feel thats where I went wrong. For example, she asked me what I do in my free time, to which I responded, "I'm not sure I should tell you that, there are people around." She gave me sort of a confused look, maybe my voice wasn't sexy enough because she didn't seem to get it, so I continued, "You said you like drawing, what do you like about it?" (Sexual framing & turning it back to her & deep dive)
So, what do you guys think? Should I have talked more about myself? I mean, I did talk a bit about myself, maybe like 5-10% of the conversation but I feel like I should've said more?
Also, another thing she said while I tried to get her bra off was, "I have morals, you know." I responded, "Well, just to let you know, I think slut is a word that was made up by girls to make fun of each other." She responded, "Yeah, so?" And I didn't really know what to say to that so I just kept on making out. Now that I think of it, I should've said something like, "What morals? Your morals or societies' stupid rules?" That way I could have gotten an idea if it was an external or internal frame. What do you guys think? What other objections could I have used? And do you think that her morals are internal or external? I feel that I had already failed when she said, "I don't even know you," and im guessing this is true to a certain extent...
Anyways, after a while of making out, she got up and said she had to go to school (not a lie, she actually had to go). But I feel like I lost a lot of power by allowing her to end the interaction... I also made another mistake by saying, "We should do this again sometime." To which she said, "Yeah deffinately". (Robs mystery?)
So, I drove her to school and along the way I said something like, "Yeah, so you asked about me, and I would have to say that most guys don't know what they want in life, but I do."
"Whats that, she said?"
"I want to become a journalist."
"Oh, so you do like English class!" (where we met)
"Yeah."
I dunno, I felt I had to say that because she would know me as someone with goals and a heart, not someone who only cares about her... but anyways...I dropped her off and she said, "Give me a text sometime."
So now, the million dollar question...
What do I do?
I read Chase's article today, "3 second date strategies," and it said that the best way to get her back was to use social proof & pre-selection. This is too hard for me because I never know of any parties, so its a no go. So now I feel I have two options...
1. In the article, "How to use the sexual frame to turn women on," Chase mentions that if she has internal frames, then maybe a second, no phyiscal contact date would be good, followed by a third date with another close attempt.
2. This contradicts with a comment he wrote on the second dates advice article, where he said that if he escalated physically then failed, then the best thing when pre-selection cannot be used is to invite the girl directly over to the house for the second date.
Either way, I have to wait 7-14 days before texting her again so her emotions can "cool off"
Because, now, she's probably feeling that she made the right decision by not putting out.
It's weird though because she said, "text me sometime." So, she wants someone to make out with or something? Or she wants to get to know me more and then fuck? Or she's just saying that but inside, she knows shes never going to see me again? Proabably the last one? I won't know until I text her again but the question is, do I take action 1 or 2? I was thinking action 2 of course hahahaha. What do you guys think? Action 1 makes me seem less shallow but then again, I'm losing more attractiveness every time I see her.
Now the second question...
There's this girl who I've known for a few months now. If I found this site earlier, I would have asked her out but instead, I delayed and delayed. When I finally asked her out on a high note, she said yes. Then she texts me the night before, saying she just realized she had a doctors appointment. "No worries," I said.
So a week later, I ask her again, if she wants to go out for lunch after next class. She says, "I can't I have so much studying to do." I responded, "well, you can study after." She said, "Okay."
But when class ends that day, "She says, "I'm in a time crunch right now, can't go out for lunch."
I say, "So, maybe another time?"
She says, "Hey listen, I'm actually seeing someone right now."
I say, "I'm not looking for a relationship. I'm not that kind of person. I didn't mean to give you the wrong impression."
She says, "Okay, well we can definately be friends then"
(At that moment, I felt like slamming my head against the wall. because THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT EITHER hahaha)
So she proceeds to say, "what do you say we hang out friday? After we finish the final exam? We can celebrate."
If my parents weren't home on friday, i would've said yes, but they are, so I just said, "I'm busy on friday, but i have your number, so i'll give you a text sometime"
So...what do you guys think? Chase her? Or drop her? Chase would say drop her but I dunno, I want to at least try and fail, rather than not even try...
But do you guys think its even worth it to try? She doesn't seem into me and shes ready to put me in the "friends" zone.
It would be great to meet her at a cafe, then try to move her back to mine. I mean, I have nothing to lose, but what are my chances? I dunnooooo, I can't really think of anything else at the moment other than these two girls....fuck....fuck....fuck....fuck....fuck...
There is a girl that I went out on a date with. We met at a cafe near her house, talked for about half an hour, then I moved her to my car and drove her to my house. She didn't even ask where we were going, she just complied when I said, "we should get out of here." So, we get to my house and we begin to physically escalate. I tried to pull down her bra like 5 times but she stopped me every time. She said, "I don't even know you." In response, I said, "But you do, I'm me".
Ealier, I read the article, "how to get laid," and it said that if a girl says this, then you have already failed because you failed on the date. I think I failed because I didn't tell her much about myself! Haha sounds silly, I know, most guys end up talking only about themselves... But me, I turned everything back to her, and I feel thats where I went wrong. For example, she asked me what I do in my free time, to which I responded, "I'm not sure I should tell you that, there are people around." She gave me sort of a confused look, maybe my voice wasn't sexy enough because she didn't seem to get it, so I continued, "You said you like drawing, what do you like about it?" (Sexual framing & turning it back to her & deep dive)
So, what do you guys think? Should I have talked more about myself? I mean, I did talk a bit about myself, maybe like 5-10% of the conversation but I feel like I should've said more?
Also, another thing she said while I tried to get her bra off was, "I have morals, you know." I responded, "Well, just to let you know, I think slut is a word that was made up by girls to make fun of each other." She responded, "Yeah, so?" And I didn't really know what to say to that so I just kept on making out. Now that I think of it, I should've said something like, "What morals? Your morals or societies' stupid rules?" That way I could have gotten an idea if it was an external or internal frame. What do you guys think? What other objections could I have used? And do you think that her morals are internal or external? I feel that I had already failed when she said, "I don't even know you," and im guessing this is true to a certain extent...
Anyways, after a while of making out, she got up and said she had to go to school (not a lie, she actually had to go). But I feel like I lost a lot of power by allowing her to end the interaction... I also made another mistake by saying, "We should do this again sometime." To which she said, "Yeah deffinately". (Robs mystery?)
So, I drove her to school and along the way I said something like, "Yeah, so you asked about me, and I would have to say that most guys don't know what they want in life, but I do."
"Whats that, she said?"
"I want to become a journalist."
"Oh, so you do like English class!" (where we met)
"Yeah."
I dunno, I felt I had to say that because she would know me as someone with goals and a heart, not someone who only cares about her... but anyways...I dropped her off and she said, "Give me a text sometime."
So now, the million dollar question...
What do I do?
I read Chase's article today, "3 second date strategies," and it said that the best way to get her back was to use social proof & pre-selection. This is too hard for me because I never know of any parties, so its a no go. So now I feel I have two options...
1. In the article, "How to use the sexual frame to turn women on," Chase mentions that if she has internal frames, then maybe a second, no phyiscal contact date would be good, followed by a third date with another close attempt.
2. This contradicts with a comment he wrote on the second dates advice article, where he said that if he escalated physically then failed, then the best thing when pre-selection cannot be used is to invite the girl directly over to the house for the second date.
Either way, I have to wait 7-14 days before texting her again so her emotions can "cool off"
Because, now, she's probably feeling that she made the right decision by not putting out.
It's weird though because she said, "text me sometime." So, she wants someone to make out with or something? Or she wants to get to know me more and then fuck? Or she's just saying that but inside, she knows shes never going to see me again? Proabably the last one? I won't know until I text her again but the question is, do I take action 1 or 2? I was thinking action 2 of course hahahaha. What do you guys think? Action 1 makes me seem less shallow but then again, I'm losing more attractiveness every time I see her.
Now the second question...
There's this girl who I've known for a few months now. If I found this site earlier, I would have asked her out but instead, I delayed and delayed. When I finally asked her out on a high note, she said yes. Then she texts me the night before, saying she just realized she had a doctors appointment. "No worries," I said.
So a week later, I ask her again, if she wants to go out for lunch after next class. She says, "I can't I have so much studying to do." I responded, "well, you can study after." She said, "Okay."
But when class ends that day, "She says, "I'm in a time crunch right now, can't go out for lunch."
I say, "So, maybe another time?"
She says, "Hey listen, I'm actually seeing someone right now."
I say, "I'm not looking for a relationship. I'm not that kind of person. I didn't mean to give you the wrong impression."
She says, "Okay, well we can definately be friends then"
(At that moment, I felt like slamming my head against the wall. because THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT EITHER hahaha)
So she proceeds to say, "what do you say we hang out friday? After we finish the final exam? We can celebrate."
If my parents weren't home on friday, i would've said yes, but they are, so I just said, "I'm busy on friday, but i have your number, so i'll give you a text sometime"
So...what do you guys think? Chase her? Or drop her? Chase would say drop her but I dunno, I want to at least try and fail, rather than not even try...
But do you guys think its even worth it to try? She doesn't seem into me and shes ready to put me in the "friends" zone.
It would be great to meet her at a cafe, then try to move her back to mine. I mean, I have nothing to lose, but what are my chances? I dunnooooo, I can't really think of anything else at the moment other than these two girls....fuck....fuck....fuck....fuck....fuck...
