Need some serious help

[Wolfie]

Hey there seducer brothers. I was wondering if any of you could help me out, I am confused as fuck.

I am a 22 year old soon gonna turn 23, been studying GC articles and female psychology for the past 2 years ever since lockdown was imposed.

I kept telling myself that once I graduate I am gonna get a job and start my seduction career.

I know the thing that I need to do is take action and approach some ladies. Here's the problem though.

I am jobless, completely lost and I never had masculine guidance, my father is more of a nice guy person, never had any friends, my mom is extremely protective of me. I feel like I am gonna have a really shitty life, I live with my parents (which is normal in the place I live). I have been really pampered all my life and I want to get rid of this shitty life, I wanna start approaching ladies, I don't want to be a wimpy nice guy.

I feel really lost, should I leave seduction? Been working only on my fundamentals (my voice, posture, slow motion etc). Or a better question should be is this the right time to learn seduction, learning about seduction somehow made my other aspects better. But I don't know how I am gonna proceed with my life. I just need some sort of guidance. I am a kid trapped in a 22 year old guys body. I NEED TO KILL THIS KID. Please help me out. Or how should I go about learning s eduction.

 

[DarkKnight]

Friend, you are just a kid and have tons of time in front of you and you are clearly aware of your problems. So this is not the time to despair and give up as you have a good 60 years before you, or even more, this is the time to be persistent and agressive.

Your frustration is a good thing, use it as fuel. You are lucky enough to have stumbled on the most elite information anywhere about how to be a man. I kindly invite you to the chat as well, I am certain our shenenigans will rub off on you.

Giving up now means you will already have lost for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Starboy]

Hey there seducer brothers. I was wondering if any of you could help me out, I am confused as fuck.

I am a 22 year old soon gonna turn 23, been studying GC articles and female psychology for the past 2 years ever since lockdown was imposed.

I kept telling myself that once I graduate I am gonna get a job and start my seduction career.

I know the thing that I need to do is take action and approach some ladies. Here's the problem though.

I am jobless, completely lost and I never had masculine guidance, my father is more of a nice guy person, never had any friends, my mom is extremely protective of me. I feel like I am gonna have a really shitty life, I live with my parents (which is normal in the place I live). I have been really pampered all my life and I want to get rid of this shitty life, I wanna start approaching ladies, I don't want to be a wimpy nice guy.

I feel really lost, should I leave seduction? Been working only on my fundamentals (my voice, posture, slow motion etc). Or a better question should be is this the right time to learn seduction, learning about seduction somehow made my other aspects better. But I don't know how I am gonna proceed with my life. I just need some sort of guidance. I am a kid trapped in a 22 year old guys body. I NEED TO KILL THIS KID. Please help me out. Or how should I go about learning s eduction.

listen man you're a young guy and it's easy to stress about this kind of thing. I had these same worries when I was your age and looking back if I had approached girls while I was still in college I would've been further ahead than I am now. I was too worried about if I was ready,should I do this,what if I embarass myself and had all these worries. I live with my parents too,but that doesn't mean I can't practice seduction.

My father never taught me anything about masculinity either it was just get good grades and a government job so i'm playing catchup myself. Pickup is just talking to girls it doesn't cost anything other than time and maybe a little bit of cash. You don't have to take girls out to expensive dinners(even if girls say they do). You're starting at a social deficit so don't feel pressure to succeed right away and start going on dates and banging girls. You won't know if your fundamentals are good unless you're actively talking to girls and seeing how they respond.

You should have some friends that's the bare minimum a young man should have and later on you can be more choosy of who you want. Learn basic social skills so you have some basic social intuition and awareness. Understand what other people like to talk about,how they socialize,what they like to do.

Look into some fun college clubs or any interesting activities and try to talk to other people and socialize as much as you can. You should also get a job so you can feel some independence and purpose. Preferably where you're around other young people and girls like a summer camp or a retail store.

The country you're from can provide some context as well if you're comfortable sharing.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Small wins.

Wake up at 9am as a start? Small win
Ask a girl if she knows where is the cereal lane? Small win

Selling something for a few bucks because you need money and you no longer need the item?

Small win.

Take a jog and sweat it out? Small win

People underestimate 'Small wins'.


z@c+

 

[DarkKnight]

@ZacAdam totally agreed. A lot of people who are down in their life do not understand how to create momentum and how essential this really is. Hell just after a good night of sleep I need to open people to get more warm and social again, everything is momentum.

 

[Will_V]

Hey there seducer brothers. I was wondering if any of you could help me out, I am confused as fuck.

I am a 22 year old soon gonna turn 23, been studying GC articles and female psychology for the past 2 years ever since lockdown was imposed.

I kept telling myself that once I graduate I am gonna get a job and start my seduction career.

I know the thing that I need to do is take action and approach some ladies. Here's the problem though.

I am jobless, completely lost and I never had masculine guidance, my father is more of a nice guy person, never had any friends, my mom is extremely protective of me. I feel like I am gonna have a really shitty life, I live with my parents (which is normal in the place I live). I have been really pampered all my life and I want to get rid of this shitty life, I wanna start approaching ladies, I don't want to be a wimpy nice guy.

I feel really lost, should I leave seduction? Been working only on my fundamentals (my voice, posture, slow motion etc). Or a better question should be is this the right time to learn seduction, learning about seduction somehow made my other aspects better. But I don't know how I am gonna proceed with my life. I just need some sort of guidance. I am a kid trapped in a 22 year old guys body. I NEED TO KILL THIS KID. Please help me out. Or how should I go about learning s eduction.

Of course you shouldn't 'give up' on seduction, it's probably going to help you change, but it's not a cure all.

If you want to develop and grow as a man, it's very simple. You need to put yourself in situations where success and failure are the only two options. Where pain or shame is the result of losing, and winning has clear rewards.

In my honest opinion, every man should escape his parents house like it's the plague as soon as he can, and establish a somewhat distant but friendly relationship with them as he develops in adulthood. Otherwise, I don't think it's possible to grow very well. The deep psychological bonds, the protective familiarity, the easy 'death' of comfortable existence just ruin him from the inside out. He never develops the hard, sharp mind of the fighter who has taken blows, or the ambition of a man who has snatched some inconceivable win from the jaws of defeat.

Parents are like a launching pad for a rocket. They are absolutely necessary to hold it up as it is prepared for launch, but at a certain point their hold must be removed, or the rocket never gets off the ground.

So my first suggestion is simple: move out.

 

[ElderPrice]

Hell yeah brother. GOOD FOR YOU wanting to change and improve your life. Many others would settle for the hand they were dealt. You're taking another path!

Honestly, I suspect you're just overthinking.

So you don't have a job, masculine guidance, etc. So what? Either way, you want to be a fearless man that approaches beautiful women. So just go be that man. You don't have to lie or cover up things about you or anything like that. Just go be that man.

Maybe 50%-75% of all of seduction is just walking up and saying hi. As long as you don't look like a slob and have your mission for moving along in life (which it sounds like you do), you have everything you need to get started.

 

[Wolfie]

Friend, you are just a kid and have tons of time in front of you and you are clearly aware of your problems. So this is not the time to despair and give up as you have a good 60 years before you, or even more, this is the time to be persistent and agressive.

Your frustration is a good thing, use it as fuel. You are lucky enough to have stumbled on the most elite information anywhere about how to be a man. I kindly invite you to the chat as well, I am certain our shenenigans will rub off on you.

Giving up now means you will already have lost for all the wrong reasons.

Hey thank you so much for replying quickly I know as man I came across a little whining bitch, I should not have done that, I am just in love

Friend, you are just a kid and have tons of time in front of you and you are clearly aware of your problems. So this is not the time to despair and give up as you have a good 60 years before you, or even more, this is the time to be persistent and agressive.

Your frustration is a good thing, use it as fuel. You are lucky enough to have stumbled on the most elite information anywhere about how to be a man. I kindly invite you to the chat as well, I am certain our shenenigans will rub off on you.

Giving up now means you will already have lost for all the wrong reasons.

Thank you so much for your kind words, I feel like I wasted my 22 years of life, I always feel like I don't have enough time to do the things I want to. I know as a man we aren't allowed to whine and appear weak, and I feel like one right now

 

[Wolfie]

listen man you're a young guy and it's easy to stress about this kind of thing. I had these same worries when I was your age and looking back if I had approached girls while I was still in college I would've been further ahead than I am now. I was too worried about if I was ready,should I do this,what if I embarass myself and had all these worries. I live with my parents too,but that doesn't mean I can't practice seduction.

My father never taught me anything about masculinity either it was just get good grades and a government job so i'm playing catchup myself. Pickup is just talking to girls it doesn't cost anything other than time and maybe a little bit of cash. You don't have to take girls out to expensive dinners(even if girls say they do). You're starting at a social deficit so don't feel pressure to succeed right away and start going on dates and banging girls. You won't know if your fundamentals are good unless you're actively talking to girls and seeing how they respond.

You should have some friends that's the bare minimum a young man should have and later on you can be more choosy of who you want. Learn basic social skills so you have some basic social intuition and awareness. Understand what other people like to talk about,how they socialize,what they like to do.

Look into some fun college clubs or any interesting activities and try to talk to other people and socialize as much as you can. You should also get a job so you can feel some independence and purpose. Preferably where you're around other young people and girls like a summer camp or a retail store.

The country you're from can provide some context as well if you're comfortable sharing.

You sound exactly like me, I too was only asked to get good grades. I am from India, so things here are really different. Thank you so much for your time and efforts

 

[Wolfie]

Small wins.

Wake up at 9am as a start? Small win
Ask a girl if she knows where is the cereal lane? Small win

Selling something for a few bucks because you need money and you no longer need the item?

Small win.

Take a jog and sweat it out? Small win

People underestimate 'Small wins'.


z@c+

This gave me hope thank you so much simple and practical, something I can practise

 

[Wolfie]

If you want to develop and grow as a man, it's very simple. You need to put yourself in situations where success and failure are the only two options. Where pain or shame is the result of losing, and winning has clear rewards.

Shane and pain, thank you for reminding me again, guess that's how a man only grows through pain. Thank you for reminding me seems like I have been avoiding it. I think I need to face it

 

[Wolfie]

In my honest opinion, every man should escape his parents house like it's the plague as soon as he can, and establish a somewhat distant but friendly relationship with them as he develops in adulthood. Otherwise, I don't think it's possible to grow very well. The deep psychological bonds, the protective familiarity, the easy 'death' of comfortable existence just ruin him from the inside out. He never develops the hard, sharp mind of the fighter who has taken blows, or the ambition of a man who has snatched some inconceivable win from the jaws of defeat

I totally agree with you looks like I need to go ahead in my career and only then maybe I can get away from them

Get money ------> get a nice place ------> start approaching

What do you think? Is it right mindset?

 

[Wolfie]

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Hell yeah brother. GOOD FOR YOU wanting to change and improve your life. Many others would settle for the hand they were dealt. You're taking another path!

Honestly, I suspect you're just overthinking.

So you don't have a job, masculine guidance, etc. So what? Either way, you want to be a fearless man that approaches beautiful women. So just go be that man. You don't have to lie or cover up things about you or anything like that. Just go be that man.

Maybe 50%-75% of all of seduction is just walking up and saying hi. As long as you don't look like a slob and have your mission for moving along in life (which it sounds like you do), you have everything you need to get started.

Thank you so much for your inspiring words. Thank you

 

[Wolfie]

I would still appreciate if some of you could just give me small practical steps that I can practise daily, maybe saying hi or smiling at girl passing by could get me started?

 

[James D]

@Wolfie,

I feel you man. I was living with my parents until age 20 (recently moved out for college).

But from ages 19-20, I slept with 17 girls (not much I know but it was still something)

It started with a major depression at 19 when I realised I might die a virgin (looking back, this was so exaggerated)

I'll tell you what, though. Learning seduction with a handicap (in your case, no job and no logistics) only makes you get better.

So, first, fix that mindset. Would it be better to have a job or have had a strong masculine presence to look up to when growing up? Hell yes. But if don't have them, you can still work with what you've got.

So, don't look at your weaknesses, look at your strengths. You mentioned fundamentals, so that's good.

Now, make a list of the places you can meet women. Anywhere works. Literally.

Go to those places and start approaching women.

Your goal? Get a number to get a date.

On the date, apply what you learnt and turn her on (the article "How To Turn a Girl On" is your friend here)

Then escalate. Kiss her, touch her, fuck her.

Rinse and repeat.

You'll make many mistakes but you'll learn tons as well.

You want practical steps, so here they are again:

1.Make a list of places you can meet women.
2. Approach them and get a date
3. Take them somewhere you can escalate.

Another thing, focus on sexiness. This will make everything easier.

As a finishing note, the first time I had sex was in the parking lot of a popular shopping mall. I decided I wanted it, so the girl I was on a date with (who had fucked like 6 guys in the past) just followed my lead, I acted confident, already had my condom, did not know how to put it on until she helped me, bended her over and fucked her.

It was her first public sex experience and she thinks of it fondly, not knowing it was with a then virgin.

One last note Wolfie: Follow your dick. Literally, let it guide you. Don't get arrested or anything but if you can get half hard when you see a girl, it'll give you that extra boost of sexual energy.

Btw, if that helps, here were my "handicaps" when starting out:

1. Living with parents.
2. No money to buy clothes and revamp my fashion
3. Jobless
4. Indian decent, which was quite hard as the default is that I'm gonna be weird.
5. No social skills whatsoever (conservative parents wouldn't allow me to go to parties)

So, I focussed on developing my strengths:

1. Got a Kinobody program and started working out.
2. Got a great hairstyle.
3. Watched hours of footage of Damon Salvatore and learnt his sexy facial expressions.
4. Used Hector's video on voice to change mine.
5. Walked like Daniel Craig in Casino Royale.
6. Got a pair of tight jeans and a black t-shirt- that was my only outfit and I look quite good given that my physique was great.

All the girls I banged were supposedly out of my league (white, high society chicks). When I asked them why they went for me, despite not going for brown guys (they call me their first brownie lol), they always say something like "your confidence", "Your voice" and one only said "your physique" (makes me realise i could have skipped the working out part but oh well, extra testosterone only helps)

 

[Wolfie]

@Wolfie,

I feel you man. I was living with my parents until age 20 (recently moved out for college).

But from ages 19-20, I slept with 17 girls (not much I know but it was still something)

It started with a major depression at 19 when I realised I might die a virgin (looking back, this was so exaggerated)

I'll tell you what, though. Learning seduction with a handicap (in your case, no job and no logistics) only makes you get better.

So, first, fix that mindset. Would it be better to have a job or have had a strong masculine presence to look up to when growing up? Hell yes. But if don't have them, you can still work with what you've got.

So, don't look at your weaknesses, look at your strengths. You mentioned fundamentals, so that's good.

Now, make a list of the places you can meet women. Anywhere works. Literally.

Go to those places and start approaching women.

Your goal? Get a number to get a date.

On the date, apply what you learnt and turn her on (the article "How To Turn a Girl On" is your friend here)

Then escalate. Kiss her, touch her, fuck her.

Rinse and repeat.

You'll make many mistakes but you'll learn tons as well.

You want practical steps, so here they are again:

1.Make a list of places you can meet women.
2. Approach them and get a date
3. Take them somewhere you can escalate.

Another thing, focus on sexiness. This will make everything easier.

As a finishing note, the first time I had sex was in the parking lot of a popular shopping mall. I decided I wanted it, so the girl I was on a date with (who had fucked like 6 guys in the past) just followed my lead, I acted confident, already had my condom, did not know how to put it on until she helped me, bended her over and fucked her.

It was her first public sex experience and she thinks of it fondly, not knowing it was with a then virgin.

One last note Wolfie: Follow your dick. Literally, let it guide you. Don't get arrested or anything but if you can get half hard when you see a girl, it'll give you that extra boost of sexual energy.

Btw, if that helps, here were my "handicaps" when starting out:

1. Living with parents.
2. No money to buy clothes and revamp my fashion
3. Jobless
4. Indian decent, which was quite hard as the default is that I'm gonna be weird.
5. No social skills whatsoever (conservative parents wouldn't allow me to go to parties)

So, I focussed on developing my strengths:

1. Got a Kinobody program and started working out.
2. Got a great hairstyle.
3. Watched hours of footage of Damon Salvatore and learnt his sexy facial expressions.
4. Used Hector's video on voice to change mine.
5. Walked like Daniel Craig in Casino Royale.
6. Got a pair of tight jeans and a black t-shirt- that was my only outfit and I look quite good given that my physique was great.

All the girls I banged were supposedly out of my league (white, high society chicks). When I asked them why they went for me, despite not going for brown guys (they call me their first brownie lol), they always say something like "your confidence", "Your voice" and one only said "your physique" (makes me realise i could have skipped the working out part but oh well, extra testosterone only helps)

Thank you so much for your words, it really inspired me, interestingly the stuff you focused on such as using Hector's video to change voice, watching damon Salvatores videos, working out, is exactly what I am working on. It at least gives me the hope that I am on the right path.

A quick question when you were a virgin, did you tell the girl knew that?

 

[James D]

Thank you so much for your words, it really inspired me, interestingly the stuff you focused on such as using Hector's video to change voice, watching damon Salvatores videos, working out, is exactly what I am working on. It at least gives me the hope that I am on the right path.

A quick question when you were a virgin, did you tell the girl knew that?

Glad it inspired you mate!

And working on fundamentals and vibe is definitely the right path, keep going.

The next step is just to make moves on girls and keep pushing things forward.

Meet a cutie in a mall? Already start planning to have sex with in the bathroom and see what you can do to get there. The mindset is liberating and to be honest, quite fun.

As for your question, I did not tell the girl I was a virgin and she certainly did not think I was. My whole attitude was like Damon Salvatore, she assumed I was a womanizer from our very first meeting. Actually, before getting my first lay, I would often have girls saying things like "You must get a lot of girls" or "Damn you probably slept with more than 30 girls". In response, I'd just wink and played it off like it's not a big deal at all, exactly like what a legit womanizer would do. And that made them swoon

They said all of that while I was in fact a kissless virgin.

So I firmly believe that if you behave like an attractive man, girls subconsciously think you get pussy (and that turns them on).

 

[ElderPrice]

I would still appreciate if some of you could just give me small practical steps that I can practise daily, maybe saying hi or smiling at girl passing by could get me started?

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