Need to change my direct opener style

[BarryS1]

I've been going through a phase on my vibe and need an opener that suits me. I gave off a sweet vibe the first 6mo. of approaching, then turned more charming, and recently transformed to dominating.

In my charming stage, I used to revel in openers using complex compliments like this:

I saw you walking there, and I just had to say you have the most...(pregnant pause) stylish jogging outfit I've seen all day.

That style has given me great results, but it seems so fake when I do it now. I don't mean it at all, I just wanna bust through and shake her up. It's more of a mentality shift in the way I view women now. The "Are you single" line is great, but I wanna experiment with other stuff too.

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Volpino]

You might want to try to let yourself be attracted, genuinely enjoy something about the girl - or force yourself, I'm not so sure. Then you can go up to her and say "Hello. I couldn't help but notice your dress etc.". Now if you want to bull your way through it, I don't know if it's the best alternative, but you can resort to more sexual compliments and use touch earlier and in a more direct way. (Or even better: "Hi. I wanna f*** you"!!)

 

[PinotNoir]

Touch her lightly on the back/arm, or stand right next to her (for example, if staring at drinks in the grocery store) and look right at her and say,
"Hey, you're a beautiful woman."

How many guys do you think have the balls for that?

One that I've been working on is getting compliance right off the bat. Read ANY of NJ's reports. They're solid gold. My favorite right now is telling a woman to wait when she's walking:
"Hey, wait." (Said with emphasis, clarity, and confidence.)
(If you say it right and towards her, 99% of women will stop.)
(Walk up to her with this kind of silent tension.)
(Stop next to her.)
"You are gorgeous."

I still like elaborate, specific compliments because a lot of women think, "Why did this guy come up to me out of all of these other beautiful women? What makes me stand out?" So I tell them.

But, there's something just intriguing and provocative about a really short compliment with a REALLY strong vibe behind it. Like there's this raw sexual energy hiding behind it.

Other great compliance ones from NJ come to mind, like when shopping and you tell a woman to come over and help you pick out some clothes or do the same thing at a food buffet. He's got some really strong, sexy, awesome compliance examples. I'm kissing his butt too much right now, but no doubt, try some of his openers.

 

[BarryS1]

You might want to try to let yourself be attracted, genuinely enjoy something about the girl - or force yourself, I'm not so sure. Then you can go up to her and say "Hello. I couldn't help but notice your dress etc.". Now if you want to bull your way through it, I don't know if it's the best alternative, but you can resort to more sexual compliments and use touch earlier and in a more direct way. (Or even better: "Hi. I wanna f*** you"!!)

Hi Volpino, the first suggestion is the route I'm going through now. A direct compliment tailored to the girl with over-the top adjectives. I always incorporate touch on the elbow pre-opening then kinos when doing direct in high-traffic areas. I have always thought about swearing at the girl in my direct opener like Sasha Daygame. "Hey!....WOW you are f---ing gorgeous. I'm Barry!"

Touch her lightly on the back/arm, or stand right next to her (for example, if staring at drinks in the grocery store) and look right at her and say,
"Hey, you're a beautiful woman."

How many guys do you think have the balls for that?

One that I've been working on is getting compliance right off the bat. Read ANY of NJ's reports. They're solid gold. My favorite right now is telling a woman to wait when she's walking:
"Hey, wait." (Said with emphasis, clarity, and confidence.)
(If you say it right and towards her, 99% of women will stop.)
(Walk up to her with this kind of silent tension.)
(Stop next to her.)
"You are gorgeous."

Pinot, I think that's what I'm looking for. A direct opener with more oomph. For the compliance, I'll have to use that for my verbal pre-opening. I've been saying things like, "Hey red shirt" and have the girl turn around, but keep walking. I'd have to run up to them and do my opener after that. This seems badass. I'll try it out!

I still like elaborate, specific compliments because a lot of women think, "Why did this guy come up to me out of all of these other beautiful women? What makes me stand out?" So I tell them.

But, there's something just intriguing and provocative about a really short compliment with a REALLY strong vibe behind it. Like there's this raw sexual energy hiding behind it.

Other great compliance ones from NJ come to mind, like when shopping and you tell a woman to come over and help you pick out some clothes or do the same thing at a food buffet. He's got some really strong, sexy, awesome compliance examples. I'm kissing his butt too much right now, but no doubt, try some of his openers.

I'm beginning to wonder if elaborate, specific compliments works better in situations than others. For example, when I switched from using the "Are you single?" line to elaborate, specific compliments, older women (30yo-45ish) didn't blow me off as much. I was 22 and used to wear business professional clothing. Even better they stopped asking me about my age and didn't screen as hard. I think it comes across as more sophisticated. I even changed things up again and used the specific compliment, but with simple words and got bad reactions - not as bad as the "Are you single" line? I used to say cute, hot, and pretty to the older girls and they didn't like it as much as a better compliment like "trendy and sophisticated jogging outfit". What have you experienced with the elaborate, specific compliment.

Thanks Pinot, I'll definitely read NJ's reports. I love experimenting with new material. I haven't done anything that different since the beginning of summer

 

[BarryS1]

Dude, Pinot. I tried the new direct opener and it was a lot of fun. It feels better to me than the specific compliment I was using before!