New generation Krauser, Torero, Berba and RSD guys?

[Igor]

Maybe I'm just getting old but I have the impression that the PUA community was much more active and had better resources than nowadays with lads just running around with spy glasses telling women how hot she is.

Being here since 2010, went from Mystery, Krauser, RSD, Street-Attraction... but nowadays I would say last 5 years there are barely new masters and innovators in the field.

I hope this will activate people to take the lead and be the next genius.

 

[KnownUniverse]

You're right. Also i noticed the lack of content surrounding night game. Back in the day (pre-2018) half of pua was focused on how to pull girls from bars including infield videos. Now everything is based on number farming during the day. Tons of youtube PUAs (james marshall, Gus Olsen, Christian kasanova, James Tusk, Evolution daily, social stoic, etc...) posting regular infields but it's all literally the same thing: number farming during day game. No SDL. No Kiss closing. Just get the number and that's it.

I remember back in the day PUA experts were actually passionate about game. They would share stories detailaing lay reports during live seminars. Now, none of the experts want to talk in detail about their lays.

 

[Skills]

You're right. Also i noticed the lack of content surrounding night game. Back in the day (pre-2018) half of pua was focused on how to pull girls from bars including infield videos. Now everything is based on number farming during the day. Tons of youtube PUAs (james marshall, Gus Olsen, Christian kasanova, James Tusk, Evolution daily, social stoic, etc...) posting regular infields but it's all literally the same thing: number farming during day game. No SDL. No Kiss closing. Just get the number and that's it.

I remember back in the day PUA experts were actually passionate about game. They would share stories detailaing lay reports during live seminars. Now, none of the experts want to talk in detail about their lays.

cause that would get their channels deleted...

 

[KnownUniverse]

cause that would get their channels deleted...

There should be a better explanation other than "youtube censorship" for the complete abscense of night game discussion that used to exist back in the day.

 

[Skills]

There should be a better explanation other than "youtube censorship" for the complete abscense of night game discussion that used to exist back in the day.

Night game of that era s dead and they are time machiners

 

[KnownUniverse]

Night game of that era s dead and they are time machiners

Seems like it but nightclubs are still packed so there is capacity for that kind of discussion to broadly re-emerge again.

 

[Bismarck]

DTF from nightclubs migrated to OLD.

Night game may still exist but in much less overall volume than pre-COVID, according to Skills and Teevster.

Also Torero killed himself after being doxxed, and Krauser last I heard wants to get married.

 

[KnownUniverse]

according to most people online dating is the cultprit but i think societies attitudes have just shifted in general away from socialising with strangers in public. The thing is, god tier game only works if the girl buys into it. If she thinks what you're doing is weird then suddenly you go from someone who's very intriguing, confident and attractive to a crazy person being weird.

I'm obviously not referring the generic game seen all over social media that's mostly number farming but that old school methods that were designed for SDL or ONS.

 

[ulrich]

In general there is significantly less people interested in seduction for a multitude of reasons:

- A general trend of acceptance/tolerance going overboard… guys no longer feel inadequate for being virgins or incels, everybody is “quirky” now.
- Newer generations of women becoming more socially akward (which leads to occasional lucky lays)
- Less societal pressure to marry and form a family
- Online apps being a gateway to easy sex (even if disappointing)


Then you also have to consider there are now competing schools of thought that are more popular than seduction (even despite their lack of tangible success):
- Redpill
- Blackpill
- Looksmaxxxing
- MGTOW

And finally, just the fact/consequence that seduction now doesn’t lead quite easily to a successful business.
Guys and gurus in the “golden days” were massively active because they were promoting 30+ people coaching business which funded and encouraged content creation.
RSD being the perfect example of that.

There are young new guys out there teaching seduction in a very professional manner and with interesting new ideas… Austen Summers is one that comes to my mind.
It’s just that not in the same volume… and that is OK.