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Hello Everyone,

New girl in the forums here and I hope I'm also allowed to get some advice here. I've been reading these articles and they are quite interesting and well done so that's why I wanted to get advice from the male perspective because I think you guys know more about women than I do myself! I'm relatively new to this dating thing and I'm having a lot of trouble getting started. In fact, it's sad to say but I haven't really dated anyone before so I guess you could say that I am in the matrix of definitely inexperienced. Overall, I really have no game. *laughs*

I haven't thought about dating a whole lot for a while until recently. It was at a wedding where it kind of hit me and I thought wouldn't it be wonderful if I can find someone for me too? Haha and then I thought then I must put in some effort! *rolls up sleeves* but I have no idea how.

Also, I would like to wait until marriage to um y'know and through reading the articles I was disheartened to find that this is not a wonderful trait to have in the world of dating. Actually, in the past it was definitely a deal breaker for a lot of the guys I was getting to know. I really don't want to change my values and I definitely think there's going to be someone out there that will be alright with it.

Any advice on how to bring up my A game? Anyway to not scare a guy away when you tell them you're waiting until marriage?
 

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I guess some of us have gotten a weird backwards understanding of how women operate based on empathizing with their wants and needs. But, it's definitely different when I'm trying to give advice to a woman on how to get a man and be happy. Most of my experience with the subject lies with the man having to be the one that goes out and attracts the woman, otherwise she won't find him as attractive down the line.

So, I guess my advice would be just that. Work on finding a man such as Chase to settle down with ;). But, he'll probably bed you before marriage. There are plenty of men willing to wait until marriage to have sex, but the issue is that 99.9% these men are inexperienced and won't know how to keep proper measures in place to ensure a long lasting marriage. Exactly why we tell guys to get experienced so that they can know how to keep women in their lives.

In order to get on the level of the most attractive men, you need to increase your game too. That means increasing fundamentals, becoming socially on-top, and knowing how to screen for attractive men who are also attracted to you. With regards to not scaring guys away with marriage, I honestly have no idea how to do that without having sex with them. Give them better sex than any woman before, and they'll want to stay with you. Same advice I give to men; get crazy good at sex so that they are begging for another night with you.

Not sure how much value this forum is going to provide to you, considering it's primarily focused on men. But hey, you could always learn how to pick-up women in the process ;).
 

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Hi Melanie!


All the game in the world won't help you keep a man until marriage with no sex if he doesn't BELIEVE there's a good reason for it. You would be very hard pressed to find such a man in the general population. If he doesn't believe the same thing as you, either you will eventually break and give up the sex or he'll move on to find easier sex.


However, you can indeed find men out there that share your same values, you just have to know WHERE to look for them. Men that believe in waiting for marriage to have sex with you because it'll make for a stronger marriage in the long run typically run in religious circles (Christian, Muslim). Your best bet would be to check out your local churches to find such men.
 

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The best advice I can give is to join a womans forum, however it's always good to learn how the other half live.

I'm curious where do you live? ....No just kidding!
 

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Hey Melanie,

Its pretty easy, and the good news is, you DON'T have to change your value for anyone!
Most guys out there would fight for a girl who has not been around. They would think to themselves "I'm going to be the first" or "Shes is worth my time".
The guys who don't, are the ones you should be avoiding anyway.
There are plenty of nice guys out there who just wants to settle, but like Ross says, the only problem is YOU may not find them attractive enough.

The key thing to do is to raise your own values, and raise your own fundamentals. Train yourself to become a sexy woman.
Give the guys something, but don't give them everything is how you should be playing.
You need to be rewarding guys with your time, but you shouldn't give them everything. That is what will make you more desirable.
 

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Hey Melanie,

Welcome to the boards! Although this website is obviously geared towards getting men to improve themselves to become the types of men that women dream of being with, advice certainly can be given to women to increase their chances of finding -- and successfully landing -- these types of men.

As I now have some rather extensive experience both dating and being with beautiful women (inside and out) in relationships, I think I can at least relay to you some advice that I would personally give women if they wanted to be with elite quality men that truly satisfy them in every aspect of their lives. My advice may not be as dramatic and romantic as most women would like it to be (although you have seemed to realize that you need to put in some effort as well, so maybe this isn't news to you), but the advice will help you get into relationships with the type of men that your girlfriends could only dream about. ;)

On meeting new men and getting dates:

1) Don't assume the man of your dreams is going to find you at a location that isn't meant to meet women. Although Chase and the other writers on this website give advice on how to meet women during the day, it is extremely uncommon to be approached by a stranger during the day and actually have him be not only genuinely interested in being with you but also know how to move things forward to make it actually happen. I highly suggest you go to social events and/or bars and lounges so that you can be approached by men. Just like it's a numbers game for men, it is also a numbers game for women. The more you put yourself in a position to be approached by men, the more options you will have of meeting one who ends up liking you (and that you like back as well)!

2) Don't accept offers from men to go home with them on the same day or night that you met them unless you are just looking for a one-night stand. The only decent way to increase your chances of finding men who are genuinely interested in seeing you more than once is to get them to ask you on a date first. Most men abide by the rule that "a woman who won't go to bed with me immediately must be higher value." Your goal here is to make the guy have to work to get you home with him... with that being said...

3) Be assertive with getting dates. This is something that most (younger) women don't do that can put you miles above the rest. When you've found a guy that has piqued your interest, tell him that you two should grab a drink sometime. You'd be surprised how many men are interested in a woman and don't catch the hints that she's sending that she'd like to see him again. If the guy is at least relatively socially savvy and interested, he'll accept your offer, take down your number, and then contact you for a date in the near future. You can also use this technique to deflect an offer for a one-night stand. For example, if a guy you are interested in says something along the lines of the following:

Guy: Well I'm having a great time! We should go back to my place and hang out a little longer.

Respond with something like the following:

Well, I'd love to, but I have work early in the morning, and I need to get sleep. How about we get together and grab drinks sometime this week, instead?

Men are usually attracted to this type of assertiveness and rarely experience it from women -- it shows that you are calm, experienced, and that you don't give yourself up so easily.

On texting men:

1) Let him be the one to text you first. Women generally know this rule anyway, but even if you really like the guy, make sure you stick to it.

2) Take time to respond to texts to filter out the needy and/or weak and demanding men. Needy men get worried when a girl doesn't text them back in 1 hour. By taking time to respond to guys' texts, you get a chance to see their true colors. Will they be cool about it? Will they start spamming you with texts asking why you aren't responding? Will they actually ask you out quickly? Taking time to respond to texts usually answers all of these questions.

3) When he finally does ask you out on a date, assuming he takes into consideration your time and schedule, do your best to accept the offer and actually go on the date. Too many women these days try to get men to "chase them over text." Men who are higher quality don't bother with women who want to play games and draw out getting together. We simply go out again the next weekend and replace you with someone just as attractive who is willing to move things forward and not waste our time.

(NOTE: If you are genuinely busy, you can cancel and let him know that you would like to re-schedule so that he knows you aren't just blowing him off.)

4) And finally, as a general rule for texting a guy you are seeing and/or are in a relationship with, make sure to give him space. Don't contact him too much or get nosey about what he's doing every hour of the day. Men don't like that.

On sex:

1) If you really want to be satisfied with a man you can spend the rest of your life with, you need to remove any inhibitions you have about sex. Ross has already touched on this, but sex is an extremely important aspect of a healthy relationship. You will likely encounter two types of men if you choose to withhold sex until marriage:

  • Type 1) The men who just won't do it. This will be the most common barrier. When you really think about it, you are putting yourself on quite a pedestal by trying to convince a guy that you are so amazing that you are worth waiting months (and probably years) for to have sex with. I can tell you from personal experience that the highest quality women that I have dated, and the ones I wanted to keep around, were usually the women who had sex with me within the first three dates. These were women that gave me the emotional highs that no other women could give me, and I've been in situations where I have waited months to have sex with a girl just to have it be "not so special" and have her not turn out to be the woman I thought she was. This is just experience talking.

    Type 2) The weak men who will put you on a pedestal. These are the guys who will become needy later, and possibly even highly controlling or jealous once your relationship gets under way. And even if they don't become needy or jealous, they probably won't be able to satisfy all of your needs because there is a huge lack of experience. The last thing you want to hear is your girlfriends gloating about how "amazing" their guy is in bed or how much of calm, suave, sexy man he is while you can't say the same about yours. It'll rub off on you, and it'll only make you crave a relationship outside of the one you are already engaged in.

2) As Ross mentioned, and although not a deal-breaker, the better you are in the bedroom, the more likely he is to stick around. Just like women enjoy men who know how to give them great sex, men also love women who know how to do the same for them. Highly-sought-after men have usually had their fair share of women in the bedroom, which means they are accustomed to lots of women being inexperienced and boring after several rolls in the hay. The more you can tease him, turn him on sexually, and make him feel like a "true man," the more you will have him craving you like none other. Men enjoy the feeling of being sexually dominant, and if you're good in bed, you'll make him feel like a million bucks -- and he'll also be more likely to return the favor. ;)

3) Do attempt to keep moving things forward after you two have slept together. If you've been seeing your man for roughly three months and you two aren't exclusive, you'll need to ask where things are going. Men generally hate this question, but to protect yourself from getting emotionally hurt, you need to know if you should continue seeing this guy so that he isn't just drawing out a relationship that isn't going anywhere. Up until this point, you need to remain passive, however.

4) Don't settle for a man who can't satisfy you in the bedroom. It will only lead to stress on your end down the road. The man you spend the rest of your life with doesn't have to give you the "best" sex you've ever had, but he better damn well be able to give you orgasms and make you feel like a real woman!

On relationships:

1) Don't be needy and nosey. Give your man his space when he wants it and let him "watch the football game with the crew" or do what it is he wants to do. Trying to control him is only going to lead to arguments and hostility. Just like quality men should be providing you with only good emotions, you should be trying to do the same for him.

NOTE: With that being said, if there is something that is truly bothering you about him or your relationship, you need to make sure he is aware of it. Guy are sometimes pretty oblivious to when a girl is trying to let him know that something is wrong, and it usually just ends up blowing up in both of your faces.

2) No matter how much you might dislike one or several of his friends, always be warm, friendly, and nice to them. If you want your man to feel and treat you like you are his prize, the best way to do it is to remind his closest friends how awesome you are. Every guy likes to hear from his friends how "lucky" he is to have you, and it'll remind him of what a catch you are. Also, the last thing you want is for his friends to be talking behind your back to him about how "he can do better" or how there are "tons of better girls out there for him." It'll eventually wear him down and cause him to choose a side. You don't want to be in a situation where your man is choosing between his close friends and you. Create a team frame with the people that are closest to him, and you'll cement a place in his heart.

3) As mentioned above, give him good sex and make him feel like a man. Every once in awhile when you two are alone, throw on some sexy lingerie and work on your "seductive voice and eye contact" to turn him on. It is well understood that men are supposed to lead the women to sex, especially in this day and age, but a woman sometimes taking the initiative to do this is heavily undervalued these days. I can guarantee he'll be reliving those scenarios in his head for years to come.

4) Don't settle for anything less than what I have described above. You admitted in your original post that Chase knows more about what women want than they do themselves. And this is true. Chase is here to help men realize what it is that women truly want so that we can give it to them and show them things they didn't even know were possible. I've had women tell me that I've given them experiences that they thought were only possible in movies -- several have even admitted they've had sexual fantasies about me. But if it wasn't for the advice that Chase has given here on this website, I wouldn't have been able to do so. At least not without the years of commitment that Chase has given to really understand what it takes to become this type of man. For that, I thank him.

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There are good guys on this forum. If you have more questions, Melanie, don't be shy about posting. Everyone here will do what they can to give you truthful, honest answers that will improve your dating and relationship life.

Cheers,

Franco
 

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Melanie, welcome to the boards, and as Franco and Light so eloquently put it, though this is a site dedicated to men picking up women, more than a few of us can provide you with the information you are looking for as well. My entire life, I've been the go to guy for advice, and from a very early age I've had both men and women friends ask me for advice on the opposite sex. As Franco said, you will need to learn your own fundamentals and create your own unique image to attract the guys you are looking for. Don't use this site as a reason to be inactive, this site helps men approach women, but most men in actuality are too afraid to approach women, and the majority of men you see will be unable to approach you, so, you will have to create your own image to entice the men who are courageous enough to approach you. If you need any advice, feel free to pm me, or post any time.
Good luck Melanie,
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Wow, Franco's post is pretty interesting from that perspective. When you try to think about what the girl is thinking, all of Chase's advice just makes that much more sense.

Anyway, about sex, this is *usually* what happens... I don't post this as an attack on women at all, but it is the cold, hard truth.

Girl: "We have to wait until marriage. I am not that kind of girl!"
Guy: "Okay, fine... Listen, I am so sorry. I respect you. I will wait. How about I take you out to dinner to make up for it? My treat?"
Girl: "Okay. :)"
Guy: "I love you."

Eventually, a sexy, dominant man comes into the picture. He's suave, like a living Casanova. They make passionate, hot steamy love.

Girl: "I'm sorry; it's over. I just... don't think we click anymore. The love is gone."
Guy: "Noooooooooooo"
The End.

(Overdramatization, but you get the point.)

This is one of the reasons that I believe sex is pushed here a lot, but I am not a representative of the website, just my two cents based on what I have seen in the world around me. There is obviously more to it than just this though I'm sure.

Even in wait-until-marriage-like marriages where both parties agree that "sex just doesn't mean that much," sex (or the lack of [good] sex) can end up shattering it. However, I think most agree that a woman has more to lose than a man (a man doesn't have to ultimately decide between abortion or not; a man doesn't have to raise the baby and can just provide child support instead; a man doesn't have to push a baby through a small hole; etc.), so it is important to wait in some regards and not to wait in others.

Just always wear a condom before marriage or have good birth control ;)
 
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Hello gentlemen,

Thank you so much for replying to my post. I am overwhelmed and touched by all the advice you've given me. I especially feel very grateful for your advice Franco because you put in a lot of details and scenarios which were really helpful. It was like reading an article on Girls Chase but for women! Very well written.

I really liked hearing all of your honest opinions. I'm going to take my time to answer each of you since you each took the time to reply me.

Ross: That's not true Ross, your answer has provided a lot of value to me so I'm really glad I wrote to this forum. I probably would be good at picking up women seeing as I am one haha. ;) Any tips on how to screen for attractive men who are attracted to me?

ProblemSolving: Ah you see, this is where it becomes even more difficult for me because I'm not religious. So I do have religious male friends who tell me all the time they would totally date me if I were Christian, etc. But I'm not, I believe in a higher being but I don't follow a religion and I don't want to convert and therefore I fit in no category. :(

Good Vibes Haha you're so silly and it is definitely good to know what men are thinking!


Light Aw thank you Light, it's nice to know that it can still be seen as a good thing. I was starting to feel that it was something frowned upon but I'm glad to hear something more positive about it

Give the guys something, but don't give them everything is how you should be playing.

That sounds like great advice, what is it that guys want? What can I offer them and how can I become more sexy?


Humay Now that wasn't very nice Humay. :p

Franco Wow! Seeing as I have no experience at all you've covered so many things for me. Thank you so much! I agree, there are definitely good guys on this forum and I can see how much they want to make women happy. I'm really glad I mustered up my fears and posted here!

To begin, meeting new men, that is probably where I need to start. Any suggestions for places I should go in the daytime? Should I go with or without friends?

All of the things you mentioned, like texting and being assertive are all so helpful and I've noted it down. I never knew women shouldn't text first so that's good to know. I definitely will take note of the getting nosey bit, I'm sure when I truly like someone and start dating them I'll probably want to see them often and then the poor guy will feel suffocated so I will definitely remember your advice and leave him alone.

It's going to take me some time to think about my inhibitions regarding sex, but I can absolutely see what you're saying and I can't argue it because I know you know what you're talking about. I just don't know if I can do it, like ahh I see what you're saying and it makes so much sense, but I-I ... ah I don't know.

Tell me, if I don't get rid of my inhibitions am I hopeless cause? Will I be unable to attract a confident man? It's starting to sound this way, I'm starting to feel like my future is doomed to be a loner somewhat. *sniffs*

Also, experienced in the bedroom will be a hard one for me, I will probably be the woman that is boring in the bedroom then. Ahh I am doomed!

It's much more complicated than I thought to get a boyfriend but I don't want to give up. I'm going to try my best this year! I'll keep you guys updated. So far I have started to go to a couple of social gatherings like barbecues etc. that my friends invited me to and sadly everyone was already coupled with people. In the end, I had fun talking to the couples and forgot all about finding someone but when I got home I was like oh yeah. UGH!

I'm going to another event soon, any way I can make myself seem more available and easy to talk to? Without looking desperate and embarrassing?

Zphix How do I create my own image Richard? I would love to know how to make a man feel more comfortable approaching me. Also, thank you for the welcome *smiles*

PinotNoir Yes! I agree, I really enjoyed reading Franco's post. About your scenario, the poor guy but I can see how this is a usual occurrence and I've had a guy I was getting to know say that to me, that I would sleep with some Casanova and I'd leave him and that was too much for him so he wanted to continue being friends. I was once again saddened but I understood that waiting wasn't for him so we remained acquaintances. Just because there are girls like that doesn't mean all girls are but I can see why a guy has every right to put up precautionary signs. I get it, boo why do I get it...I should be more like grr that's not fair but I do. It's because I get it that it sucks and I'm never mad at all the guys that stopped talking to me or turned me down after that conversation would come up. It became sort of like ah as expected, little bitter but never angry. I always forgave them and we would become good acquaintances again but that made me stop looking for a while. But no more giving up, this year I am giving it my all!
 

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Creating your own image is obviously personal, find clothes which compliment your body in the right way, and also do a little research on clothing which compliments your personality =) Judging from your response though, you seem like a dedicated, serious, yet playful individual, meaning you subconsciously already know how to flirt with men. As far as making yourself more approachable, focus on the clothes you wear, as well as your walk. Guys upon first notice generally only approach at least decent looking women (I.e, girls showing a little cleavage, sporting a beautiful haircut, or very tidy matching outfits). Look at yourself in the mirror, and think about what would show those initial qualities, from how you seem, everything after the guys approach should be natural for you.
-Good luck out there Melanie =P
 

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Tell me, if I don't get rid of my inhibitions am I hopeless cause? Will I be unable to attract a confident man? It's starting to sound this way, I'm starting to feel like my future is doomed to be a loner somewhat. *sniffs*

Also, experienced in the bedroom will be a hard one for me, I will probably be the woman that is boring in the bedroom then. Ahh I am doomed!

No. I absolutely agree with Franco, because I am a guy too, and I need a healthy relationship myself. But Franco has missed out a 3rd type of men which you will encounter:
Type 3) The traditional type who understands and RESPECTS you.
- My younger sister is absolutely stunning. She has dated numerous men. But she also knows the game well. She is very much like you, and has never had sex with any of her boyfriends due to her heavy religious influence. But she states these facts to those men EARLY into the game. So that they know what to expect and what not to. These guys love her.. they want her more. Why? Because they respect her.
 

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Good Vibes said:
The best advice I can give is to join a womans forum, however it's always good to learn how the other half live.

I'm curious where do you live? ....No just kidding!
Melanie said:
Good Vibes Haha you're so silly and it is definitely good to know what men are thinking!
Are you trying to tease me? You'll have to do better than that. So why are you here, surley not just to chat me up?

Melanie said:
It's much more complicated than I thought to get a boyfriend but I don't want to give up. I'm going to try my best this year! I'll keep you guys updated.
Don't forget to include all the raunchy stuff too.
 

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Good Vibes said:
Good Vibes said:
The best advice I can give is to join a womans forum, however it's always good to learn how the other half live.

I'm curious where do you live? ....No just kidding!
Melanie said:
Good Vibes Haha you're so silly and it is definitely good to know what men are thinking!
Are you trying to tease me? You'll have to do better than that. So why are you here, surley not just to chat me up?

Spotted ya, buddy. Nice Chase frame ;).
 

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PrettyDecent said:
Good Vibes said:
Good Vibes said:
The best advice I can give is to join a womans forum, however it's always good to learn how the other half live.

I'm curious where do you live? ....No just kidding!
Melanie said:
Good Vibes Haha you're so silly and it is definitely good to know what men are thinking!
Are you trying to tease me? You'll have to do better than that. So why are you here, surley not just to chat me up?

Spotted ya, buddy. Nice Chase frame ;).


OHHH the joy lol =)
 

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Melanie,

To begin, meeting new men, that is probably where I need to start. Any suggestions for places I should go in the daytime? Should I go with or without friends?

As far as daytime, I would just try to go to social events where people gather! You can even consider joining groups of people who do things together (volunteer work, a recreational sports organization, any type of group that coordinates events where new people show up) should do the trick. There also things like salsa classes which will allow you to meet men as well. You'll have to experiment with each, but ultimately, any type of night life with bars and social drinking are superior to anything else to being approached by men. Do whatever you feel comfortable with, and if you aren't getting the results you desire, then try other things!

If you're new to this whole thing, I would try to go out with your friends. You will feel much more comfortable. But with that being said, you're going to want to take opportunities to split off from your group and isolate yourself so that you can be approached. Men will be a lot more likely to talk to you if you are by yourself rather than trying to butt their way into a conversation with your girlfriends. Take periodic breaks to "refill your drink" or "go to the bathroom" or "grab more food" (if you're at a social event) so that you can isolate yourself for awhile. Then use your eyes to view the men around the room. If you happen to catch a guy's gaze, you can even throw in a quick little smile and then turn away. For a lot of guys, this may give them enough courage to approach you if they were unsure about how you would react to them initially.

All of the things you mentioned, like texting and being assertive are all so helpful and I've noted it down. I never knew women shouldn't text first so that's good to know. I definitely will take note of the getting nosey bit, I'm sure when I truly like someone and start dating them I'll probably want to see them often and then the poor guy will feel suffocated so I will definitely remember your advice and leave him alone.

The "he must text first" thing does go out the window once you two have slept together, however. At this point, you're welcome to text him first to ask him if he wants to get together. But just make sure you don't overdue it. The "suffocation" rule still applies. ;)

It's going to take me some time to think about my inhibitions regarding sex, but I can absolutely see what you're saying and I can't argue it because I know you know what you're talking about. I just don't know if I can do it, like ahh I see what you're saying and it makes so much sense, but I-I ... ah I don't know.

Well, it might be worth getting to the bottom of this first so that you can feel better about what your ultimate decision is. You said you aren't religious, so you must have some reason that you feel like you need to wait on sex until marriage. Is this just something you were brought up with? Did your parents or your friends tell you this is what you should do? What exactly are your reasons for withholding sex?

I've already mentioned earlier that some of the highest quality women I've dated (and the girl I am currently seeing) have all had sex with me in three dates or less. So if you're worried about a guy determining how "quality" you are based on your sexual history, then I can throw that one right in the garbage for ya! (And if any guy tells you otherwise, I can guarantee you he isn't the type of man you would want to be with anyway. Real men don't care about a women's sexual past; they are too busy enjoying who she is in the moment)

Tell me, if I don't get rid of my inhibitions am I hopeless cause? Will I be unable to attract a confident man? It's starting to sound this way, I'm starting to feel like my future is doomed to be a loner somewhat. *sniffs*

I don't like giving absolutes because it is possible that there is a guy out there that is extremely confident and willing to wait on sex. But... I have yet to meet him. Think about all of the sexiest men you've seen in the movies: do most of them wait until marriage for sex? Or do they end up bedding the girl they want in some heated, passionate moment during the climax of the movie before they get together officially?

Also, experienced in the bedroom will be a hard one for me, I will probably be the woman that is boring in the bedroom then. Ahh I am doomed!

Experience comes with practice, which is another reason why I encourage you to not hold back. ;)

I'm going to another event soon, any way I can make myself seem more available and easy to talk to? Without looking desperate and embarrassing?

As mentioned above, make yourself available to approach! Also, if you're rather fearless, you can really up your chances by approaching the men you find attractive. This may sound rather difficult, but it's what most of the more shy members on the board had to learn how to do also (except approach women of course)! So you would not be alone. Just chat them up a bit and flirt and see what happens. Some good-lookin' guy may find it assertive and sexy!

It's much more complicated than I thought to get a boyfriend but I don't want to give up. I'm going to try my best this year! I'll keep you guys updated.

Good luck, and keep at it, Melanie. ;)

- Franco
 
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Zphix: Thank you for the luck! I will definitely need it :) It sounds so far like I’m on the right track, this is the first year I’ve bought clothes that I think suits me and I’ve been getting a lot of compliments from people I know and strangers as well! Also, I’ve been going to the gym, I’ve always naturally had a body that is on the skinny side so I was wondering do men like women with abs? I’ve been working on those but they hurt and I’m wondering if a flat stomach is fine because well it feels pretty sore and honestly it sucks. :( I will keep in mind to work on my walk!

Light: You give me some hope Light, which is funny considering your name *grins* I will keep trying for now. I’ll tell you if I fail miserably or not. It doesn’t hurt to try to fight the norm right? Your sister is a prime example. *admires*

Good Vibes: Haha using a Chase frame on me now. It’s sad, but I don’t even have a good comeback to it. If a man approached me and said that I would just smile dumbly. Like I said, I have no game. And I’ll try to include anything raunchy but I don’t know if I’ll even get that far for a while.

Franco: I think you are right; I definitely need to find ways to stray away from the group and scan the room for guys. To be honest I don’t think I can say I have ever done that. I never scan the room for guys so a lot of the times I will leave and my friend will be like omg that guy was totally staring at you the whole time! And I’m all what? Where? And it’s always too late. Haha, so I should check out my surroundings and provide that opening like you suggested. I knew I was doing something completely wrong and you don’t really know how to correct it until someone points it out.

This texting thing is more complicated than I thought. I will keep it in mind. I never even thought about the importance in the approaches of text.

To answer about my ultimate decision, well to be honest, it is probably a very silly reason. Please don’t laugh at me… but I just always wanted my husband to know that he was the only one for me. *nervous laugh* That’s really it. *ducks away in a little hole*

I don’t really think about it as someone who has more quality. In fact, I know a lot of my friends who have no inhibitions towards sex and I think they are the finest quality women out there!

You are very right about those romantic movies *sighs*

I’ll try approaching men if I can calm my nerves.

Question for everyone: Any good examples on how to reply to a man who’s flirting? I am very good at regular conversation but with flirting I end up being stumped as to how to answer and sometimes I answer where the man will just stare at me oddly. Then I think ah…that didn’t go well.

Thank you for the luck Franco!

I’ll keep everyone posted!
 

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Response from someone lol, in all honesty, I don't know if women ever work on flirting because they just naturally have guys talking to them from a young age onward, and it develops as the individual girl does. Alot of the flirting a girl does usually comes naturally and subconsciously ( I always focus on the sub and unconscious aspects) .
However, a woman's flirting has an entire range of motions, and actions! From the most grand of things to the most miniscule. Lucky for you, I've always been good with body language, and will tell you that most girls show interest and flirtation via body language, such as:
-Leaning in closely to hear something, or leaning in closely to say something
-Saying something funny or ambiguously sexual, then tilting your head back a little and smiling with your mouth and eyes
-Simply facing forward towards the person you're talking to instead of having your side to them
-A big hearty smile =)
-Touching usually playfully (bumping the guy, pushing him, lightly hitting him, etc)
-Teasing in response to a guys flirting (like, guy says " I bet I can keep you up all night ;)" and you say something like "No you couldnt! I'd keep myself up longer than you ever could!" of course said in a playful way, with a fun tone of voice"
-There's millions of ways a girl shows interest, I suggest you search it up on Google, or better yet! I recommend a book by Allan Pease titled "Body Language - How to Read Others' Thoughts by Their Gestures" It's a great book I read for my psychology class, and had a bunch of signs I had already known but opened up my eyes to ones I had seen but never properly interpreted. Great book, give it a read Melanie!
 

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Melanie said:
Good Vibes: Haha using a Chase frame on me now. It’s sad, but I don’t even have a good comeback to it. If a man approached me and said that I would just smile dumbly. Like I said, I have no game.
If you went to see a magician in concert, do you think you'd get your money's worth if you knew how he did his tricks? Not if the whole point of going there is to be amazed and wonder how it was done. What if you met a guy who was genuinely looking for marriage with you and you rejected him feeling he must not be serious with you because you detected a seduction technique he used on you? I'm not saying you shouldn't be on this forum you can learn quite a bit but a woman's forum may be better for you.
I believe men give the best advice for men and women give the best advice for women.
I'd hate you to over analyze things with too much information and logic from everyone. That doesn't mean women aren't as smart as men, it means women are more emotional and can enjoy the ride where men are more logical and have to plan.

Melanie said:
Question for everyone: Any good examples on how to reply to a man who’s flirting? I am very good at regular conversation but with flirting I end up being stumped as to how to answer and sometimes I answer where the man will just stare at me oddly. Then I think ah…that didn’t go well.
If it's me you just go along with it.

Imagine you're at a party where 10 different guys give you advice on how to attract me. Finally when the other girls who were trying their luck with me go to the powder room, you come over to me confused and nervous because you try to remember everything you've heard from the 10 advice giving nice guys about how to attract me, won't you feel relieved when I tell you not to worry too much about all that stuff and take our relationship in the direction you want it to go?
 

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I'll just give you 2 pieces of 'advice' 1 regarding the no sex before marriage thing, make sure this is a belief that you really believe in, rather than something that people expect of you because that is what you've said previously, and/or people expect it. That applies to most things you have very right to change anything you want to, at any time. :)

For flirting lookup nonverbal, trust me on that. I'm usually pretty quick to reply most of the time, but that comes from a huge experience of being flirty over quite a period of time. A look, a wink, a nudge can convey so much without needing to say anything at all. Also be aware that most guys won't get it, choose the ones that do. :)

Hope everything goes well for you.
 
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