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New to Cold Approach? Fix Your Posture

Atlas IV

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Noticed quite a few newcomers to the forum recently, some of whom are vocally complaining about cold approach.

In case they've missed it, I just want to point them to one of the most valuable pieces of content you will find on GirlsChase, which is the Fantastic Fundamentals video series - the guide to fixing your fundamentals like posture, voice, facial expressions, mannerisms, eye contact, movement, fashion, etc.

I actually go back and rewatch these videos every few months, because I've not found anything that can directly enhance your results like improving your fundamentals (and it takes a lot of work to make them permanent).

Posture, in particular, is a fundamental that offers the most outsized returns.

Hence this video should be mandatory watching for anyone who wants to optimize their cold approach.

I would venture to say that anyone with bad posture will find a noticeable difference in results after fixing it.

With good posture:
- You will look (and feel) more dominant
- You will get more IOIs
- Girls will hook better and find you more intriguing
- You will bounce back from rejection faster
- You will feel more calm, relaxed, and in control of situations

Most powerful of all, posture seems to have a direct effect on all your other fundamentals. When you stand upright, shoulders back, broad and with chin parallel to the ground, you will find that your voice, facial expressions, movements and eye contact all naturally become more attractive.

So if you're struggling with cold approach, give that video a watch, put a note in your phone with Chase's five tips, and revise them when you're out in the field.

I guarantee you'll see (and feel) the improvements.
 

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To piggyback on what @Atlas IV said here (great post, man):

Every time I or any coach I know has been out in-field with a student, the student always has a bunch of reasons why he THINKS women are not responding to him as well as he'd like them to.

Every single time his fundamentals are sub-excellent. Poor posture, not smiling enough, not making great eye contact, voice is rough or hard to hear, stays in the "polite zone" when approaching girls, defensive body language, etc.

You fix this stuff and the student immediately starts getting warmer receptions and cannot believe it has changed that fast.

People don't realize they come across night and day different just by switching from "okay" posture and other fundamentals to "excellent, confident-looking guy" posture/fundamentals.

Makes a huge difference.

Most guys don't focus on theirs nearly enough.

Chase
 

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I agree, posture is one of the most important fundamentals.

For those who have a bad case of nerd neck and can't just fix their posture by standing straight, the youtube channel Jeremy Ethier has a video with a 5 minute routine to reverse it. You just have to do it every day for a few weeks
 

isildur1

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This is something James Marshall talks about a lot his teachings

I was bullied a lot at school for my poor posture by a lot of women - mainly my habits were really poor growing up- excessive computer games and PlayStation meant my neck would move like an ostrich- just reeked of low confidence and self esteem
 

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To piggyback on what @Atlas IV said here (great post, man):

Every time I or any coach I know has been out in-field with a student, the student always has a bunch of reasons why he THINKS women are not responding to him as well as he'd like them to.

Every single time his fundamentals are sub-excellent. Poor posture, not smiling enough, not making great eye contact, voice is rough or hard to hear, stays in the "polite zone" when approaching girls, defensive body language, etc.

You fix this stuff and the student immediately starts getting warmer receptions and cannot believe it has changed that fast.

People don't realize they come across night and day different just by switching from "okay" posture and other fundamentals to "excellent, confident-looking guy" posture/fundamentals.

Makes a huge difference.

Most guys don't focus on theirs nearly enough.

Chase
A lot of my wings came from a background of porn addiction and excessive gaming which both reek havoc on posture ( I had a problem with both growing up) so yeah it’s a very fair point - the way the modern world is set up is just woeful for posture
 

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Just a bump for anyone who hasn't checked out Chase's Fantastic Fundamentals videos on GC TV, go do that right away.

I'm going through them again, especially the content on voice.

Chase could package the whole series into one course and easily sell it for hundreds of bucks. The value is certainly worth it.

But right now you just gotta get a subscription on GC TV and you can access all videos.

Highly recommended!
 
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ChrisXKiss

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I wanted to ask something about posture and body movements in particular. Is it more important to look like you have a good posture or you feel comfortable with how you sit, stand and move?

I’ll give an example of what I have felt looking at videos from @Chase and @Hector.

Sometimes when I watch videos of Chase in GirlsChasetv I feel like there is a deliberate effort for stillness and for not lowering the chin below a certain point. Like the head has to be high and up while giving the advice. There are times I have caught myself focusing on it and not the advice in fact, trying to figure out if this is something I enjoy looking at and if I should emulate it or not.

Now it’s fully possible that after a long time of keeping a good posture up and you head parallel to the ground you get so used to it, that it’s just natural for you to keep it there.

At the same time I have watched a number of Hector’s videos on the youtube channel and he always feels a lot more free with his movement. He will move his hands or head a lot more and employ a lot of different facial expressions. Generally I get the feeling of something very fluid, authentic and in the moment.

I’d have to see a person in real time to really understand how their posture and movements look and work and what makes them effective of course.

What I can say is that I have seen people keeping a great posture and it sometimes feel: Man you can let loose a bit, there is no need to look like you are ultra high power every single second, there is no fun in that.

Maybe something is way off with my thinking here. I suppose I don’t want to be looking like I am always uptight and stiff and I prefer being more fluid and playful in the ways I move, so I was trying to understand how to combine both in a unique way of expressing myself through my body attractively.
 

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@ChrisXKiss,

I wanted to ask something about posture and body movements in particular. Is it more important to look like you have a good posture or you feel comfortable with how you sit, stand and move?

I’ll give an example of what I have felt looking at videos from @Chase and @Hector.

Sometimes when I watch videos of Chase in GirlsChasetv I feel like there is a deliberate effort for stillness and for not lowering the chin below a certain point. Like the head has to be high and up while giving the advice. There are times I have caught myself focusing on it and not the advice in fact, trying to figure out if this is something I enjoy looking at and if I should emulate it or not.

Now it’s fully possible that after a long time of keeping a good posture up and you head parallel to the ground you get so used to it, that it’s just natural for you to keep it there.

At the same time I have watched a number of Hector’s videos on the youtube channel and he always feels a lot more free with his movement. He will move his hands or head a lot more and employ a lot of different facial expressions. Generally I get the feeling of something very fluid, authentic and in the moment.

I’d have to see a person in real time to really understand how their posture and movements look and work and what makes them effective of course.

What I can say is that I have seen people keeping a great posture and it sometimes feel: Man you can let loose a bit, there is no need to look like you are ultra high power every single second, there is no fun in that.

Maybe something is way off with my thinking here. I suppose I don’t want to be looking like I am always uptight and stiff and I prefer being more fluid and playful in the ways I move, so I was trying to understand how to combine both in a unique way of expressing myself through my body attractively.

Excellent question!

You don't want to be STIFF but you can be very DELIBERATE with your body language.

I don't know if you've ever watched members of the upper crust instructing their children, but they will insist that they sit and stand with their backs arrow straight, chin up, may give them a little whip if they come out of posture, etc.

The Hagakure (Book of the Samurai) teaches that a Samurai should practice always sitting with his back straight even while completely alone.

Essentially, the more proper the posture, without going completely overboard into "stiff" land, the more you come across with an air of regality.

The downside of this is it is damaging for attainability. You look haughty and a bit unrelatable. So you can go the opposite direction and be much more expressive. Then you come across warmer and more relatable, but you give up the haughty undertones. The choice changes which women you are more or less attractive to.

ALL THAT SAID -- there is also a difference between "standing up against a wall with the camera looking up at you" videos, like mine on GirlsChase.TV are, vs. "sitting at a desk with the camera right at eyeball level" videos, like Hector's are.

I shot a "sitting at a desk" video recently and looking through it my chin is only angled up here and there. I also use a lot more hand gestures and head movements compared to "standing up against a wall."

Here's another example from last year:


Chase
 

ChrisXKiss

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I don't know if you've ever watched members of the upper crust instructing their children, but they will insist that they sit and stand with their backs arrow straight, chin up, may give them a little whip if they come out of posture, etc
Yeah, in fact my aunt was a bit like that. My parents were more chill about it, I remember my mother once even telling me to relax a bit because I kept walking around with my back fully straight and my head held high.

In a way I can enjoy both things, having this more elegant posture and being more relaxed, so I was thinking what’s the best way to combine them.

My feeling is that it is important to have a strong core enough to be able to have a proper posture effortlessly, and then you simply decide how to calibrate your movements to the environment and what you want to achieve.

For example, I do like the underlook a bit too much, I think sometimes I naturally have it even when walking or standing, so I tend to approach with it and even with my head tilted a bit to the side.

Maybe it’s not the best way to approach haughty nightclub girls though, or professionals dressed to the 9s. And I do like both these types.

ALL THAT SAID -- there is also a difference between "standing up against a wall with the camera looking up at you" videos, like mine on GirlsChase.TV are, vs. "sitting at a desk with the camera right at eyeball level" videos, like Hector's are.

I shot a "sitting at a desk" video recently and looking through it my chin is only angled up here and there. I also use a lot more hand gestures and head movements compared to "standing up against a wall."
Yes that is a good point. I saw the video and it makes sense.
 
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