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Space Monkey
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I've quite recently took the red pill.

I'm wondering how to overcome the feeling of "there is no point".

Knowing there's a system can be great, getting girls is just that.

But it also demystifies everything. And makes the whole world quite a cold place.
Knowing now there's no soulmates. As I know now all that I know I'll probably never connect deeply with any women any more.
Don't want to get hurt. And also, after I know everything about women now, I don't see the point.
Sure, the sex can be great but I don't even want to build anything deeper with anyone, as I know it's all a farce.

I'm having my lows quite often but still trying to push forward.
But I'm having doubts in my mission and I'm almost in my mid 30s already.
Feeling alone.

I have girls to fuck and for companion.
But the general feeling doesn't go away.
 

asshole

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letsdoit said:
I've quite recently took the red pill.

I'm wondering how to overcome the feeling of "there is no point".

Knowing there's a system can be great, getting girls is just that.

But it also demystifies everything. And makes the whole world quite a cold place.
Knowing now there's no soulmates. As I know now all that I know I'll probably never connect deeply with any women any more.
Don't want to get hurt. And also, after I know everything about women now, I don't see the point.
Sure, the sex can be great but I don't even want to build anything deeper with anyone, as I know it's all a farce.

I'm having my lows quite often but still trying to push forward.
But I'm having doubts in my mission and I'm almost in my mid 30s already.
Feeling alone.

I have girls to fuck and for companion.
But the general feeling doesn't go away.

What if I tell you the blue pill is causing side effects to the red pill?

First off, there was never soulmates and star-crossed lovers in the first place. That was a myth spread by society and the blue pill swallowers. You've been conditioned so as to think this as the reality. And when this whole world came crumbling down, you're feeling like there's no point in doing anything the blue pill swallowers conditioned you to believe. Not just that, the red pill swallowers can't tell you what's your purpose because most of them are merely imitating other red pill swallowers to create this illusion of a world that they themselves found by following the Naturals. They can imitate the tactics, the behaviors and the techniques of a natural but they can't decipher the heart and motives behind all of it.

Second off, the idea that you shouldn't connect with a women deeply because you are afraid she might hurt you or that women are these cruel beings always intending to gain something off from men is the philosophy of most of these red pill swallowers and it shows a man with deep insecurities. For the red pill swallowers, following Naturals was a means to an end, means to something the red pill swallowers and blue pill swallowers adore and put on a pedestal and worship and think of it as the judgement of their ability - sex. The red pill swallowers are after the same thing as the blue pill swallowers but this time, they found from other red pill swallowers that they can control their outcome and employ all these tactics to get the pussy and they're essentially pseudo alpha.

Finally, I wanna end this by saying, if you had taken the blue pill, you might have to take the red pill to take away the effects of blue pill. But in the end, it's not the cure, it was merely used to eliminate the blue pill out of your system. It's like, taking a poison to eliminate another poison. Ultimately, you would want to take the red pill out of your system to completely be normal.

I see, you got the blue pill out of your system albeit showing signs here and there. Now it's time for you to take the red pill out of your system.
For naturals, it's about making a woman laugh, that's it, it's not about sex, it's about making a woman feel like a woman (warm, cuddly, fun, sexy, friendly) instead of projecting her as this disney character ( Madonna hannah or slutty sara or bitch carla) and making them change every time your'e around them to your reality. It's about accepting who they are and he just loves them whether they're a stripper, prostitute, housewife, nurse, doctor, ceo, teacher, etc and it's about being confident you won't get hurt and courageous enough to leave her when she does make you and still not give a fuck about this women and find some other women you can leave better than you find her. Not a lot of men can get this red pill out of their system, they're just paranoid and afraid to get hurt again and fail to feel the one thing they're after all this time. It's about being fun and going for that greatest moments of your life and cool enough to let a girl tag along with you.
 

Drck

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"I'm wondering how to overcome the feeling of "there is no point"
>>>> IMO this has to do only a little bit with girls. It's more philosophical question that each of us - of those who are seeking answer to this question - have to answer...

I believe that somewhere deep inside most of us feel that "there is no point". Some fall in depression because they don't see any point of living... Others try to escape this question through different things such as religion. For example, a person believes that there is much better life after he or she dies - life in heaven where there is no suffering is simply a reflection of current unsatisfactory life... Some are chasing money and success, and others girls. In a sense, all this activity of "chasing" things, people or better life is simply an attempt to escape the "there is no point". I also believe that most people can't even accept the idea of "there is no point" because if they do they would contradict everything they do and chase... They would stop chasing naturally because they would know that there is no point as you say...

It sounds probably quite depressing, but that is only a perception of those who are busy with their lives. If you study e.g. buddhism you can find quite happiness in the "there is no point", you'll find quite a relieve in true non-chasing...

"Knowing now there's no soulmates"
>>>> Yes. We are born alone, and we die alone. Anything in between is just an attempt to escape the "there is no point", we try to escape it by clinging to others or to things that bring us external pleasure... Yet we should know that external pleasure can't really satisfy us... Thus we shall learn to be alone and love it, but that's probably too of an distant thought... most won't even accept it as a valid thought... it is a deeper question that only some face as they question purpose of existence, while the others usually run far away of such question because they can't even face the "there is no point"...

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But we have to look at Red Pill from different points of view too. Red Pill can be seen as a difference between boys and men. It is the immaturity of boys that make them to cling emotionally to woman, they need woman in order to feel happy, to feel secure, to feel fulfilled... Men no longer need soulmates because they are content in their being, while Boys are still searching for soulmates that will fulfill them... Freud would say that perhaps boys still need a nipple to suck to in order to be filled with pleasure :)

The "love" that one experiences while with woman it is in essence just a sign of immaturity, it's the emotional clinginess to female body signifying pleasure and safety that infants experience... Love is a very strong feeling, it is a feeling that enslaves most men... Beta men, that is, and these men will do anything to be around females... they will protect them, cherish them, provide for them - while the females usually ignore them because they understand the immaturity, they understand the clinginess and emotional dependence...

Mature man sees it little bit differently. He no longer needs that emotional comfort of being with female. Female becomes more of an sexual object, just some temporal fun, great pleasure, distraction from reality, however female is no longer a source of happiness in his life. Therefore he has no need to provide for her, putting her on a pedestal or protect her in some way from the other "bad" boys who also want to sleep with her...

You are also talking about connecting with women. IMO you don't have to worry much about that. If you see women as humans (and not as a source of your happiness) you will always connect well with most of them... It's just 'chemistry', with some people you can't connect no matter what you do or try, and with others you'll feel the vibes right away... So stop the effort of connecting with women, drop the desire to connect - and all the connection will come on its own, naturally, and it will happen with most humans... Just be around, relax, and let things happen...
 

Zaxxon23

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Just because girls follow their emotions and can cheat doesn't mean they will. Heck, most women are well wired for monogamy and becoming a top seducer makes them fall for you that much harder. It's just that you have an advantage now because you know that you have to remain a strong man and keep them stimulated each and every single day. It's hard work but if you really care about a woman it will be a worthwhile labor. It also gives you the freedom to know that if your girl does wander and you have to move on, that you can without issue. It's about your freedom from the constraints of the blue pill that puts you in depression when a woman doesn't keep a commitment because you mistakenly thought a commitment was more important to her than her emotions in the present.

I guess it's all about the frames and how you choose to look at the situation. Instead of thinking "all women will cheat", you could instead think "I have a much better chance than the average schmo to create conditions that a woman wants to be faithful". Instead of thinking "all this red pill stuff is good for is picking up women to have meaningless sex with", you could instead think "I'm not looking for sex. I'm looking for good sex. Good emotional connections and possibilities where I create the best conditions for a woman to fall head over heals. I just don't really care any more what she chooses because if she doesn't stick with me I have plenty of other great options." This is why I like girls chase so much in comparison to so much other PUA communities. If you really read the articles here, it is often mentioned that this method is best not just for picking up girls for meaningless sex, but also for creating amazing relationships.

When a woman wants to be faithful, she prevents herself from getting in situations where she can be seduced. Unless she's just a woman who wants to cheat regardless of the situation (and indeed there are some like that), good women will remain yours by their own accord unless/until you screw up enough that she's had enough of you and is willing to put herself in the situation to grab the next vine.

Not to mention that at some point you may also wonder why in the heck you used to be sold on monogomy in the first place. I mean what's better? One woman you are committed to or a small harem of girlfriends who you have open relationships with? I can't help but find a small circle of girlfriends to be far more exciting and fresh. Over time, you may even be able to create a polygamous LTR with a few girls that remains stable for life if you so desire.

It really is all about freeing yourself from the blue pill frame. Until you can be open minded enough to think about things outside of the constraints of monogomy, you'll continue to be held a slave to that particular frame.
 
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