New Wingman Unintentionally Cockblocked Me

[Hue]

Yo yo,

So my good looking natural(ish) friend is newly single (FINALLY) and we went out last night. He did okay - and the way things fizzled out was me leaving with two girls and him leaving with my homie. Right as it's decision time he heard my plausible deniability to go back with them and responded, "What? Hue doesn't even [insert activity here]!" to them.

Then the girls went to the bathroom to talk and my dick remained limp and dry for the rest of the night.

He either didn't understand the plausible deniability behind my game or he was being malicious (though I doubt it was the latter).

If we're gonna wingman, I can't have shit like this happening - though I am finding correcting people by calling out the mechanisms of what is wrong / correct is a less than optimal approach.

How should I go about getting what happened across to him?

 

[Mr.Rob]

Hue,

Wow that's super weak that you actually lost the girls because of that. Sounds like your boy just wasn't thinking and might've felt a little jealousy as he saw you leaving with two broads and him going home alone. Anyway that's the game.

As for how to go about it I'd just wait till your one on one with him and just casually broach the subject and let it known not to do that again next time "Hey man what was with you telling those broads that I didn't actually do XYZ activity the other night? I about had that in the bag and they bailed as soon as you mentioned it. I know you didn't do it on purpose but the next time I'm pulling some girls be sure to back up and follow whatever gameplan I'm laying out to these broads and that way when you have some girls your about to pull I'll be sure to say the right thing to get you laid, you know what I'm sayin dawg?"

That's how I my friends and I communicate when those types of things pop up. Direct but not make a big deal out of it, just relay the message. I'm personally not a big fan of guys that aren't mature or humble enough for that type of communication as a friend.

Lastly I had a good wing back a few years ago and we had a good saying we'd always say "I want you to get laid man" and that type of mentality would sort of become ingrained and when we were out pimping we'd actually do things to make the other guy look better (though not at our own expense mind you) and try and actively spend more time getting each other laid like it was a game and we'd have a lot more fun gaming that way together.

Ciao bra,
-Rob

 

[trashKENNUT]

How should I go about getting what happened across to him?

Aspergers?

Zac

 

[Hue]

Mr. Rob wrote,
Wow that's super weak that you actually lost the girls because of that.

Well, her friend is a cunt who I had a sketchy encounter or two with - but I thought I'd already resolved that by her seeing and talking with me most recently. The direction made an obvious change after this.

"Hey man what was with you telling those broads that I didn't actually do XYZ activity the other night? I about had that in the bag and they bailed as soon as you mentioned it. I know you didn't do it on purpose but the next time I'm pulling some girls be sure to back up and follow whatever gameplan I'm laying out to these broads and that way when you have some girls your about to pull I'll be sure to say the right thing to get you laid, you know what I'm sayin dawg?"

I attempted my version of this, but somewhat in laziness and lack of regulating my language said the word "cock block" which made him a little defensive. It ended a little iffy, but I think he got the message.

I'm personally not a big fan of guys that aren't mature or humble enough for that type of communication as a friend.

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Yea, not gonna lie, this dude is probably my cockiest close friend (other than myself lol) and not always in an entertaining way.

Lastly I had a good wing back a few years ago and we had a good saying we'd always say "I want you to get laid man" and that type of mentality would sort of become ingrained and when we were out pimping we'd actually do things to make the other guy look better (though not at our own expense mind you) and try and actively spend more time getting each other laid like it was a game and we'd have a lot more fun gaming that way together.

Nice! That's exactly what I'm looking for!

He JUST broke up with his girl, and I think that before we can actually start gaming together the kid needs to get laid from a cold approach (he already has 2-3 girls texting & snapchatting him who are clearly interested - but the cold approach insta lay is much more empowering psychologically). We're pretty damn tight, so I think that we can rough out the edges after some experience together.

For example, he just had a makeout with a 24 y/o (we're both 22) and she stopped because she decided he was "too young". Which, could be many things - but this is an issue I've ran into and to counter that you need to understand what to frame and why, at least on an implicit level. I can help the dude with sticking points, but like any of us in this seduction journey the experience is needed enough to even identify those. He'll likely have problems enough times that it becomes necessary to have these conversations from his own motivations - if he wants to awaken his full savagery, that is.

Or, maybe he's not the best candidate for a regular wingman, and I guess we'll have it see.

Thanks for the feedback brotha!

Zac wrote,
Aspergers?

Lol fuck you.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hue,

Lol fuck you.

I'm not joking.

i can hang out with you and i accidentally cockblock you because i can occasionally be in my emotions from time to time.

Why do people like me (who is more feeling feeling) can at times, cockblock out of the blue?

1)Painbody (being lied too many times when young)
2)Fact oriented (being lied too many times)

and lastly, this is something Girlschase and PUA community never talk about

3)We hang out together man, why leave me suddenly. My tribe is suddenly gone, and i have no 'future prospecting' (what to do next)

Zac

 

[Hue]

Zac,

Trying to understand your post best I can, please correct me if I do not follow.

Why do people like me (who is more feeling feeling) can at times, cockblock out of the blue?

If there is SOME sort of emotional thing going on with someone, that even hearing information incongruent with one's current frame of mind can create a sort of... discharge that doesn't reflect a person's other intentions.

Painbody

This is the second time I've seen you use this word. When you use it do you mean that someone is carrying around pain / baggage from experience, and so it seeps out into their mind / behavior in other ways?

We hang out together man, why leave me suddenly. My tribe is suddenly gone, and i have no 'future prospecting' (what to do next)

Are you referring to how the deeper you commit yourself to game / social psychology the more you separate yourself from those around you because of changing realizations, perceptions, and desires?


If I'm way off, at least I get to see my projections lol


Hue

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hue,

If there is SOME sort of emotional thing going on with someone, that even hearing information incongruent with one's current frame of mind can create a sort of... discharge that doesn't reflect a person's other intentions.

YEap. It happens with me all the time. When I see Chase write something incongruent on GC, i will write it out loud, here.

Does it mean i am wrong? Nope. But does it mean i am always right? Nope. Because context can be different. Then there's the accidental cockblock. :/

When you use it do you mean that someone is carrying around pain / baggage from experience, and so it seeps out into their mind / behavior in other ways?

Given an example. Some of the guys here ask why do I relate to something that is irrelevant when i write a topic. Though the topic, i try to relate, is more to analogies rather than fact, which i am well aware of.

I do this too because Asian parents to do 'associative thinking'. So, in a way, i am doing this too. because of painbody.

Can't blame most parents, they can't afford everything.
So they give their children, religion/identity politics.

That is associative thinking. We all know that praying to God isn't going to manifest a Ferrari, but selling that bullshit sure makes money,

Eckhart Touile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzj7R9IB48s

We hang out together man, why leave me suddenly. My tribe is suddenly gone, and i have no 'future prospecting' (what to do next)

If we hang out together, there's an unconscious part of me or most men that we are a tribe. IF you take a girl home, and often most guys just disappear, without notifying early, then what am i suppose to do?

You get what i mean?

We can hang out as guys and suddenly you want to fuck, and most men unconsciously has a defense tribe mechanism. Like, we "suppose" to hang out, drink beer or what have you.

Zac

 

[Hue]

Zac,

Given an example. Some of the guys here ask why do I relate to something that is irrelevant when i write a topic. Though the topic, i try to relate, is more to analogies rather than fact, which i am well aware of.

Example of you using painbody. I thought you meant my body, being in pain from all the bites and scratches lol (actually still have a scar on my bicep from her biting the fuck out of it).

I get that you are writing in analogies and while I think it can be helpful to yourself and many in drawing an idea implicitly some of it becomes too cryptic for me to understand.

Very helpful video to explain the phenomena, thanks.

If we hang out together, there's an unconscious part of me or most men that we are a tribe. IF you take a girl home, and often most guys just disappear, without notifying early, then what am i suppose to do?

Ahh, yes. Definitely (with this individual at least).

This is something that most my friends understand about going out with me now - that I could leave on a moments notice with little to no explanation. Combine that with being drunk and potential painbody, and you get cockblocked.

Thanks for reiterating, homeslice.


Hue

 

[trashKENNUT]

Thanks for reiterating, homeslice.

i'm homecheese.

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p.s: yes, i do act random and have some random humor.

Zac