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ericj5592

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Hey i just want to give a little background on myself. I'm starting to build a habit of talking to girls and people that i don't know. It frustrating and its distracting me from living out my life and not having to focus only on girls all the time. I'm a 22 year old virgin, and I feel like the pressure is a lot, so I'm starting to going out a lot. I'm applying the knowledge from Girlschase and RSD. Both have flattened my learning curve, and i appreciate the wisdom you guys are sharing. My friends don't want to share their secrets at times, they hold back. But you guys share everything you know, and thats cool. Anyways i wanted some advice on my attempt to flirt and talk to a girl yesterday.

I went to Best Buy yesterday to talk to girls. I saw a couple, but I only talked to one. It was a Best Buy worker, and i saw that she played with her hair when i was walking her way. I knew she was interested/attracted, but she was walking with her coworker and for now im too shy to approach a girl in that situation. So i walked around, being in a good relaxed and calm mood and not putting too much pressure on myself. I was looking at the TVs when i noticed that same girl came my way. I opened by telling her if i could play the PS4, it was turned off. She said yea, and this is when I told her in a joking manner " I just had to say this but you are the shortest girl i have ever seen" She paused and didnt say anything, and then just laughed. I tried to extend the conversation by saying " How tall are you?" She said paused again, "4'9". I was too nervous too say anything else, so i told her i had to leave. When i left, she said " you are so mean" in a hurt tone of voice.

I know i should have said something better, but I'm trying not to overthink. I'm trying to say something just to get over the fear of talking to girls i dont know. I tell myself girls are no big deal, i have gone through harder stuff in life like beating depression and anxiety, and being taunted and ridiculed by many people, including family, building muscle, studying nanotechnology at a local community college, studying trigonometry physics chemistry calculus and applying psychology/girlschase advise/wisdom, improving my social skills/calibration/conversation skills but it doesnt seem to matter. I still get nervous as hell whenever i approach girls.. and I know i lacked calibration in this approach. Is there any other way i don't come across like this again? I don't want to insult girls, I want to be confident and flirt with girls and at the same time be good at small talk. I know by doing these cold approaches and avoiding all social circle i will get good fast. I need help in what i did wrong, and why? And what does it mean when you talk to a girl and she pauses before she talks to you? And when she doesn't want to look at you and looks down instead of looking at you when talking back to you? Thanks
 

Smith

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I still get nervous as hell whenever i approach girls.. and I know i lacked calibration in this approach. Is there any other way i don't come across like this again? I don't want to insult girls, I want to be confident and flirt with girls and at the same time be good at small talk. I know by doing these cold approaches and avoiding all social circle i will get good fast. I need help in what i did wrong, and why? And what does it mean when you talk to a girl and she pauses before she talks to you? And when she doesn't want to look at you and looks down instead of looking at you when talking back to you? Thanks

I usually focus on my breathing and clear my mind (just think about your breathing) when I'm about to talk to girls. It's kinda like meditation. Then I say "hi" or "excuse me". The rest of the opener just comes naturally, even if I stumbled my words, I'll just be honest about my intention and that I'm nervous. After about 15-30 seconds, I usually start to relax and have a good conversation with the girl.

Just be grounded and in the moment.

Pausing in a conversation just means she's thinking, and u should use pauses as well. Looking down means she's submissive.

Your opener was good. It got her laughing, but I think u got too nervous and stuck in your head to continue flirting with her.

You: " I just had to say this but you are the shortest girl i have ever seen"
Her: "hahaha"
You: "Just kidding! I think you're really cute.I'm XX"

or even say this

" I just had to say this but you are the shortest cute girl i have ever seen"

or you could use a playful cold read when she told you about her height.

There are many ways to play around with this, but it has to be congruent with yourself and seem natural.

But most importantly, make sure u handled ur fundamentals.

- Smith
 
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theemann31

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Hey ericj, I've been through this myself. I'm an 18 year old virgin with little to no experience with girls and social interactions up until the last few weeks where I have progressed past where you are so I can help you out.

The way that I got over my anxiety is by just directly opening girls until I felt comfortable doing it. Literally, wherever I went, I would just tell the girl I found cute that she had a really pretty face or that she was really cute or something like that and sometimes they would thank me, and other times they would run away (one ran into a wall).

So just for now, whenever you see a girl who isn't totally repulsive tell her some quality about her that you like, it can be as simple as "Hi there, those are really nice earrings" or "Hey, you are really cute" then you can just tell her that's all you wanted to say then walk away or you can try to continue talking. Or just try to make a casual conversation with no sexual strings attached.
For instance, you could have asked how the Best Buy chick's day is going or how that phone case nearby holds up against drops, then inquire into her life and what she is currently pursuing in her life right now outside of work here. This is a good place to start also and will help you to progress fast. Do this with damn near everyone you meet; I do and it just makes everything so much easier, people are surprising open to talking about themselves with strangers.

I know how hard this is, I know how your heart races to the point you feel it in your head and can't hear your own thoughts and can't even think straight or control yourself well, but you have to do this a couple of times until it is just as natural as breathing.

But when you do this, just be sure to maintain your fundamentals, just be sure to Stand up straight with your shoulders back and chest out (imagine a fish hook hooking your chest bone and pulling it up), make solid eye contact with the girl with your eyes focused between her eyes not actually on her eyes, and be sure to speak REALLY SLOWLY AND DEEP. Do this and if you aren't dressed like a hobo and look at least half decent, I promise you that the girl you speak with won't run away from you. This is really important, maintain your fundamentals

It is only after you have gotten comfortable with opening that you can move on to the next step. Think of this like a video game, you're on level one and must keep taking shots at defeating the boss until you do (are proficient at approaching)

But yeah, just get out there and approach some girls despite your fear and the fear will vanish. Just be sure to post what goes on on the forum. And then progress onto the next step

-Josh
 
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