Night Venues

[Bboy100]

Hi guys,

So, I recently made it a goal to go out alone specifically to meet women. Until now, I've been doing some approaches while I'm out with friends and just as I walk around campus. But not nearly as many as I should be doing. Now, I actually want to set aside time periods where I go out and go hard. I wanted at least one of my venues to be a nighttime venue. Going by Chase's recommendation in https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-p ... -and-clubs, I decided to look for cocktail lounges and House clubs in my city. As it turns out, there's not a single one of either! There are a few wine bars (they count as cocktail lounges), but they don't match what Chase describes in the article. And they all seem to be closed by like, 10-11PM. So, not really what I'm looking for.

It seems that what my city has most of is dance clubs and bars, both of which Chase suggest are pretty bad venues for nighttime pickups. Is it even worth pursuing night game where I am? Or should I just stick to approaching girls on campus. Keep in mind that my school has only 15000 people, if I start mass approaching regularly, I'll earn myself a reputation very quickly.

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I could also go to a much bigger city (Seattle), where they'll have everything I could possibly want and more in terms of Nightlife. But its 1.5 hours away from where I am. So I would have to stay at my parent's place...which would obviously cause a huge logistical issue for me. Would this be worth it?

 

[ray_zorse]

I think it kind of depends what you like, for instance if you are alone (or let's say driving the car) do you listen to dance music? If you do then probably a packed dance club is for you Personally I do not really like wine bars etc. Well I do, but I cannot really see the advantage of a wine bar over, say, a Starbucks... the mood and the approaching style is much the same. Like Starbucks, people generally go to a wine bar either to meet friends, or to chill by themselves over a drink after a long day at the office etc. Maybe a wine bar, unlike Starbucks, is a venue where you are "allowed" to approach, but only if you hang out at the bar, most of the action takes place at the tables etc.

On the other hand the advantage I'd see of nightclubs etc would be that women go there specifically to meet men, so they're typically a lot more dressed up (and hence hotter) than they would be if they went to a wine bar, and more importantly the mood is much higher, so if they're in the right vibe and state, they may do things they wouldn't do otherwise. Whereas if they go to a wine bar, it's pretty much like Starbucks... they're going about their normal routine, and their vibe and state reflects that fact. The downside to nightclubs is that women are on guard, and often in it for validation (blowing off guys and generally being bitchy)... whereas they wouldn't do this in Starbucks. I can share a personal story here from my journal, these two women were as bitchy as hell (initially friendly, but then basically telling me to fuck off, although I ignored this)... well later that week I encountered the same two girls at the tram stop whilst I had my kids with me, and got quite a nice conversation, asked shorter one out although nogo.

I'd say hit those clubs, if the dancefloor isn't your scene (and it's true the dancefloor isn't the best place to pick up, although it's certainly a lot of fun trying, and it has other advantages such as getting grinds with hot girls and feeling up their bodies)... then you can always hangout near the bar, or just look for girls standing or sitting alone.

You should also go to Seattle and try homeless pickup, I wouldn't bother trying to pull women back to your parents', although if you have a car you could try that. Maybe if it's warm you could try pulling them to a park where you have previously stashed a mattress and a sleeping bag? (Always keep these items in your car by the way).

I would also recommend to hit daygame hard, there's some debate over whether daygame is a different skill to nightgame, it's basically the same although there are some nuances. Night street game is also another thing to consider. Anyway, regarding campus game, try some supermarket game etc until you get more comfortable with approaching in the day and can do it without creeping girls out. I avoided campus game for a long time for the reason you stated, but in recent months I do it quite a lot.

Ray

 

[Man-O]

There is yourself (your skill lvl in seduction), venues and logitics that determine your success factor if success is getting laid.

If you want to improve the fastest you find a city with various venues and decent logistics. If you can't you'll have to lower your expectations adequately.
Hit those clubs and bars, it's not THAT bad unless you can't speak with the girls at all. Maybe you can extract them outside where you can talk etc..
It's definetly a bit harder and your learning curve may not be the best but it will be better than not doing it at all.
I expect your goal is to be able to get any girl anywhere. So practice everywhere, even if it's not ideal.

1½ hours to Seattle isn't that far but imo too far if you were to n-game there regularly (3xweek).

 

[Lotus]

Bboy,

Here is another article on venues:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/picki ... ight-venue

It's definitely still worth it! Bars come in all shapes and sizes, some substantially better then others and I bet with a school of 15,000 you can find one that fit the qualifications(your preferences). They aren't inherently bad for pick-up just because they are bars, it depends on the criteria. Develop your own criteria and decide what will make you most comfortable picking up in your area.

The perfect venue:
1.Not too big, not too small
2.Good male/female ratio
3.No cover charges
4.The place fits your personality and stereotype
5.Good infrastructure: well-built venue with multiple rooms and smoking areas

My favorite places hit most of these criteria... the only one I would add to the list is "mood lighting".

Arguably, the most important part of pick up is your mental state. Find a place that you like and you feel comfortable working with and you can consistently get "in-state" at. I wouldn't completely disregard any venue until you have tried it out yourself.

I could also go to a much bigger city (Seattle), where they'll have everything I could possibly want and more in terms of Nightlife. But its 1.5 hours away from where I am. So I would have to stay at my parent's place...which would obviously cause a huge logistical issue for me. Would this be worth it?

I'm sure it would be fun if you decide the drive is worth it.

 

[Estate]

You need to tailor the approach to the venue. But pick where you like... in terms of the vibe and the people that hang there.

Lounge bars is an ambiguous term. Some are as you said, like a wine bar that might not go past mid-night, may be an older crowd or yuppies, may not be very loud or busy.
On the other hand, some lounges I know are places which actually pick up after 10 and become more like an upscale nightclub in a small bar venue...

Really it doesn't matter. If you're after college girls, a lounge is not your place.
If you like career women, an EDM club or college/sports bar is probably not the place.

I've found none are easier or hard than another, it's just about tailoring the approach.

I found Bostons nightlife WAY different to back home, but I've adapted. Certain clubs are shocking if you can't make yourself "known". This wasn't the case in my hometown. But you learn to work it.
The lounges you mention are my favorite, but it can also mean a lower volume of women, and you have to move fast, you can't really get lost in the crowd so if going alone, you can't spend time being visibly sitting alone, you have to go make moves.
There's certain dress codes for all of the above. And none of those dress work for a more casual bar or college bar... infact, the more I dress "down" from my usual work or lounge clothes, the better I do at college bars but the same attire wouldn't even get me in the door of many clubs/lounges.

Pick what you like, tailor your style and go get it!