Not getting dates from night game any more - What's the pattern?

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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This is month three of trying to pin this down.

{1} short kiss after meeting at night - would announce beforehand that she often forgets to respond to messages. Would respond, we would even meet quickly at a bar she was at with a friend, but at some point she would stop to respond altogether. Never got to a 1:1 date.

{2} would not confirm a point of encounter and time, would announce to be (very) late on second attempt for a meet - so I’d cancel. In chat she would insist on asking my job, insist on getting to know me better there, then - understandably - block me for a comment I made.

{3} would not respond to my messages at all, which is strange because her three friends were all interested in me, which should create all the amount of pre-selection required.

{4} would not visit me in my city (even though girls love this city), saying if she happens to go there with a friend we could meet. Ended up visiting her instead. Kissed at the end of the date. Would still not take me up on the next invite to visit in my city, because she’s "not going to stay at someones place who she only just met on one single date".

{5} would be eager to set up a date, offering various specific choices. Had slept with her once, three years ago. The day before the date would ask me how long I’d be staying, then insist on an answer when I didn’t give one right away and then cancel the moment I gave it.

{6} was a same-night lay. Now that I think about it, later chatting in bed she mentioned that at one point (before we talked) she felt intimidated. At that point I was like three steps away on the dance floor merely facing her direction.

{7} would excitedly respond to my short icebreaker ("loved to meet you last night") with Same !!! How are you? and then stop responding.

{8} would respond to my short icebreaker with Same ! then stop to respond.

This is in a location where I’d be very successful up until three years ago and girls would be quite eager to meet.

Having this post in front of me written out now, I start to get the feeling that the girls are afraid?!

The one that bugs me the most is {7}, because of how well she responded in person. She was quick to pull out her phone and grab my Instagram (just like {1} actually), responded with a question to the icebreaker, then went cold.

Something is off.
 

Railer

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Starting at the most recent …

Code:
13:08 Loved getting to know you last night! / Railer
15:30 > Same Railer!
17:00 We should arrange something easygoing.
      During the week what are your plans?

I do realize that some users eagerly disagree with the direct question, but some years ago, if a girl would respond to the icebreaker, she would be totally fine with this and happily go along with it.




Code:
day1
12:59 loved getting to know you last night!
16:25 > Same !!!!
      > How're you?
19:03 hi!
19:03 how's your sunday so far?

day2
15:48 all good* yes
17:05 > Good! It was good
      > And yours?
17:30 yes
      i enjoyed the rainy mood
      afterwards i remembered our idea but a bit late

day3
18:46 hii <name>
      <saying that i just extended my stay>
      how's your day finishing up?

Yeah, it is embarrassingly mundane, but if she’s interested why would she need a dancing texting monkey …




Code:
Thursday
12:04 loved seeing you again ❣️
17:36 > Yees
      > Where are you staying?
17:38 Remember the apmt close to <club>?
18:03 > Yes i remember
      > There?
18:13 Yes in the same
      Wanna come by?
19:11 > We can arrange something
19:27 Okay
      My car's at the shop
      Do you have means to get around?
19:29 > No I don't no
      > And I'm in <place 40 minutes away>
19:29 Oh
      Do you live there now?
19:29 > Yes
19:30 Or are you where I picked you up that one time
      Oh that complicates things a bit ...
19:31 > Yes I live here
19:32 How do you usually get around to these parts?
19:32 > I take the bus
19:34 If you want, take one and I'll await you here
      to go out or, if not, we'll get you an Uber or a cab
19:35 > I'm now working until saturday
      > We could do at noon
      > Or sunday monday or tuesday
19:36 Noon any day you say?
      Or the others any moment?
      If it's that, it'd be good tomorrow at noon maybe an
      hour beach and something tasty to eat

Friday
03:38 > Yes ehm tomorrow impossible
      > But sat
      > Or sunday
15:07 A relaxed sunday would be good
      Let's go for that
      Around noon here?
15:52 > Okay love the idea
19:07 Totally
      Let's do sunday then

Saturday
11:11 > Morning
      > How are you?
      > Until when are you staying?
14:47 Hey beauty :D
      How are you? How's work treating you?
      Still on track our plans for tomorrow?
14:50 > Hi
      > Work is great
      > Until when are you staying?
14:53 ?
16:10 I don't have anything scheduled. I stay as long as I
      feel comfortable (:
19:31 > Lovely
      > Tomorrow in the end I won't make it
      > But we'll do it
19:46 Great

A friend’s theory: Me ignoring the question at first has her assume I’m lying when I finally respond to her probing. Obviously the necessary assumption being that the girl is looking exclusively for LTR while being opposed to anything other than that (with me).

She’s mentioned in S-22 as "objectively most-beautiful I’ve ever slept with".




Here I extracted only the response she sent two days after I had said that I wanted her to spend the upcoming weekend with me:

Code:
...
11:21 > Sorry that I respond only now, Thanks for the
        invitation, but I think you're looking for someone
        to just have fun and I'm not looking for that. I'm
        not going to stay at somebody's place I don't know
        yet and only had one date with.
12:50 <send some messages telling her roughly what I feel
       for her in a non-needy fashion>
14:02 > Well but how am I supposed to get excited and develop
        feelings for somebody that I don't know, I saw you
        briefly in a club and then we met one more time. I
        think you're going very fast, first one has to get to
        know the other
...

I found it crazy how the one girl I fall in love with in years, who I travel two hours to see for a date tells me how she thinks I’m going too fast and that I’m just looking for fun. After a total of six weeks it was about time to give her an idea about my feelings - even if just to get it of my system.

She’s mentioned in S-21 as "girl with oriental features".




{3} I don’t have the full chat any more. {2} is pretty much what I said in the previous post. {1} might be interesting, but more complicated to explain and type. However, she’s mentioned in S-16 as "the most attractive, by far".
 
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Skills

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Starting at the most recent …

Code:
13:08 Loved getting to know you last night! / Railer
15:30 > Same Railer!
17:00 We should arrange something easygoing.
      During the week what are your plans?

I do realize that some users eagerly disagree with the direct question, but some years ago, if a girl would respond to the icebreaker, she would be totally fine with this and happily go along with it.

How did i know it was your texting.... Anyways you are fucking up by low odds texting for example....^ after responding you went with hard close HORRIBLE...... Read and understand this guide




Code:
day1
12:59 loved getting to know you last night!
16:25 > Same !!!!
      > How're you?
19:03 hi!
19:03 how's your sunday so far?

day2
15:48 all good* yes
17:05 > Good! It was good
      > And yours?
17:30 yes
      i enjoyed the rainy mood
      afterwards i remembered our idea but a bit late

day3
18:46 hii <name>
      <saying that i just extended my stay>
      how's your day finishing up?
Yeah, it is embarrassingly mundane, but if she’s interested why would she need a dancing texting monkey …

correct... dry vaginas... and This are boring normie convos, also i personally would avoid ig, unless your ig is a really cool, amazing one... Also you need to know how to flirt



Code:
Thursday
12:04 loved seeing you again ❣️
17:36 > Yees
      > Where are you staying?
17:38 Remember the apmt close to <club>?
18:03 > Yes i remember
      > There?
18:13 Yes in the same
      Wanna come by?
19:11 > We can arrange something
19:27 Okay
      My car's at the shop
      Do you have means to get around?
19:29 > No I don't no
      > And I'm in <place 40 minutes away>
19:29 Oh
      Do you live there now?
19:29 > Yes
19:30 Or are you where I picked you up that one time
      Oh that complicates things a bit ...
19:31 > Yes I live here
19:32 How do you usually get around to these parts?
19:32 > I take the bus
19:34 If you want, take one and I'll await you here
      to go out or, if not, we'll get you an Uber or a cab
19:35 > I'm now working until saturday
      > We could do at noon
      > Or sunday monday or tuesday
19:36 Noon any day you say?
      Or the others any moment?
      If it's that, it'd be good tomorrow at noon maybe an
      hour beach and something tasty to eat

Friday
03:38 > Yes ehm tomorrow impossible
      > But sat
      > Or sunday
15:07 A relaxed sunday would be good
      Let's go for that
      Around noon here?
15:52 > Okay love the idea
19:07 Totally
      Let's do sunday then

Saturday
11:11 > Morning
      > How are you?
      > Until when are you staying?
14:47 Hey beauty :D
      How are you? How's work treating you?
      Still on track our plans for tomorrow?
14:50 > Hi
      > Work is great
      > Until when are you staying?
14:53 ?
16:10 I don't have anything scheduled. I stay as long as I
      feel comfortable (:
19:31 > Lovely
      > Tomorrow in the end I won't make it
      > But we'll do it
19:46 Great

A friend’s theory: Me ignoring the question at first has her assume I’m lying when I finally respond to her probing. Obviously the necessary assumption being that the girl is looking exclusively for LTR while being opposed to anything other than that (with me).

She’s mentioned in S-22 as "objectively most-beautiful I’ve ever slept with".




Here I extracted only the response she sent two days after I had said that I wanted her to spend the upcoming weekend with me:

Code:
...
11:21 > Sorry that I respond only now, Thanks for the
        invitation, but I think you're looking for someone
        to just have fun and I'm not looking for that. I'm
        not going to stay at somebody's place I don't know
        yet and only had one date with.
12:50 <send some messages telling her roughly what I feel
       for her in a non-needy fashion>
14:02 > Well but how am I supposed to get excited and develop
        feelings for somebody that I don't know, I saw you
        briefly in a club and then we met one more time. I
        think you're going very fast, first one has to get to
        know the other
...

I found it crazy how the one girl I fall in love with in years, who I travel two hours to see for a date tells me how she thinks I’m going too fast and that I’m just looking for fun. After a total of six weeks it was about time to give her an idea about my feelings - even if just to get it of my system.

She’s mentioned in S-21 as "girl with oriental features".




{3} I don’t have the full chat any more. {2} is pretty much what I said in the previous post. {1} might be interesting, but more complicated to explain and type. However, she’s mentioned in S-16 as "the most attractive, by far".
^ this one was painful, she was totally into you and down..... Yeah man, change your texting style, that is the issue.. here are some other things applicable to the last scenario so you get understanding of dynamics...read the post and the second response to the post i provided....but the transportation and logistics arrangement were totally sloppy... So the good is that your in club interactions seem solid, your follow up handling and texting is sloppy, though the last girl was definitely down...
 

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Messages
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Sometimes I wonder why I even bother to ask.

I know that number one is your pet-peeve, but you really have to strain imagination hard to blame number two and number three on texting style.

A girl texting out of the blue, insisting on knowing the duration of my stay and you think it's about some wording?

I provided four totally different examples, and in your books it's only ever texting - as if there was no real human on the other end?

I did try your style both last year and now. It does get laughs, it doesn't get the date though.

And yes, I'm talking about me. Here. In this environment. This is not about some singled-out sentences.
 
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