FU Number close a super sexy blonde before Christmas. Texting fails and poor timing over Christmas kill it.

[Beck Bass]

Here's where u died, figuratively in her brain.

Yep, he should have just gone for the kill here, she made it clear she wanted to meet up and told him when...
I totally agree with you @ZacAdam

drop the memes, i know pwf uses them, and other guys but for me to be used as ping, meh! unless is holidays (you ping correctly with the merry Christmas stuff)

Yep, too cheesy, I feel like few high value guys would ever use them, if it looks like something your uncle might send you, you should start worrying lol (I know I used one to close a hottie once, but it was veeeery situational and we were already on a kinda funny vibe, she had sent me memes before, therefore I thought it was perfectly calibrated, and it worked like a charm)

I happens though @Beam, let it turn into some good learning for next time (I myself fucked up some many opportunities before for texting poorly/getting too excited just to be texting a hot girl). I would suggest, if you have it, to read that little book on texting by @Chase, it's a bit old at this point, but main points still applies, and are what matter (using texting only for setting up the date or build "rapport", the very superficial one you need to get her warmed up to meet, keeping your eye on the ball, texting very minimally and with intent and so on). I think there's some articles on GC that touch on this subject well, can't remember any right now though...

 

[Beam]

Yep, he should have just gone for the kill here, she made it clear she wanted to meet up and told him when...
I totally agree with you @ZacAdam

Hey man, I responded to Zac because I'm still a little bit confused. I understand now that she wanted to meet up before christmas - but I'm still not sure how I should have responded/ pushed for the meet soon in a socially suave way in response to her ambiguity. Here is my response to him:

I think I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong. Do you mean she was giving me a hint to push for a sooner meet in a seductive way? Didn't even realize this is where I might have gone wrong. I had felt like something changed after I sent that - she went from "might have time closer too " meaning she was willing to make something work to "it's going to be a post christmas thing", ruling it out after I sent that. I knew something had changed. And obviously getting her out sooner would have been more ideal.

Hmm, but I'm not sure on what an appropriate response would have been without coming across too eager. Should I have said I was quiet busy over the break, and that I'm sure she'd be able to find a couple of hours for me, perhaps something like:

HB: Schedules tight this close to chrissy but might have some time closer too Are you working through the holiday period?
B: It is, but I'm sure you'll be able to find a couple of hours for an incredibly handsome and charming dancer . I have a little bit of time off.

Or too much?

I happens though @Beam, let it turn into some good learning for next time (I myself fucked up some many opportunities before for texting poorly/getting too excited just to be texting a hot girl). I would suggest, if you have it, to read that little book on texting by @Chase, it's a bit old at this point, but main points still applies, and are what matter (using texting only for setting up the date or build "rapport", the very superficial one you need to get her warmed up to meet, keeping your eye on the ball, texting very minimally and with intent and so on). I think there's some articles on GC that touch on this subject well, can't remember any right now though...

Funny enough I do usually use Chases minimal texting style to set up dates. In this case I deviated somewhat and asked a followup question to kickstart the convo since I sent the icebreaker the next day as opposed to a couple hours after. I felt it would still be fine but it threw me when she didn't let me know her schedule immediately - because then I was thinking "I don't want to be pushy - how do I keep the flame going until after christmas?" Just threw me completely.

My texting definitely needs improvement though so time to give it a revisit - haven't read and applied new theory in a while.

 

[Beam]

Also a friendly reminder for everyone - if you liked the formatting of the text conversation - that is actually something I've automated. If you have an android phone (not sure if the app used is available on iphone), you can save the convo as a text file, put it in the program and it spits it out that way - with blue for your messages, pink for hers, dates in bold, times, automatic removal of your name and hers etc. It takes a bit of time to set up initially (haven't made it an exe yet, just a python program which is manually run) but once you've set it up it makes the process of transcribing text convos here incredibly easy in a nice easy to read format. Let me know if you want it and I'll send it to you with instructions!

 

[Beck Bass]

Also a friendly reminder for everyone - if you liked the formatting of the text conversation - that is actually something I've automated. If you have an android phone (not sure if the app used is available on iphone), you can save the convo as a text file, put it in the program and it spits it out that way - with blue for your messages, pink for hers, dates in bold, times, automatic removal of your name and hers etc. It takes a bit of time to set up initially (haven't made it an exe yet, just a python program which is manually run) but once you've set it up it makes the process of transcribing text convos here incredibly easy in a nice easy to read format. Let me know if you want it and I'll send it to you with instructions!

That sound really cool, I think you could post a tutorial in the forums as a thread or something!

Funny enough I do usually use Chases minimal texting style to set up dates. In this case I deviated somewhat and asked a followup question to kickstart the convo since I sent the icebreaker the next day as opposed to a couple hours after. I felt it would still be fine but it threw me when she didn't let me know her schedule immediately - because then I was thinking "I don't want to be pushy - how do I keep the flame going until after christmas?" Just threw me completely.

Yeah the beginning was fine, but as Chase said somewhere, texting is like baking, if you put too much of one ingredient, you can end up ruining the whole recipe, instead of making it better! Of course, you gotta adapt to each situation, but this comes more with practice, you get a sense for it.

I understand now that she wanted to meet up before christmas - but I'm still not sure how I should have responded/ pushed for the meet soon in a socially suave way in response to her ambiguity. Here is my response to him:

Hmm sometimes you just gotta pull the trigger, you know, like trying to be too suave might end up hurting you if her buying temperature is already there. In your place I would have written something like: "Nope, I'm free soon, we should meet next week to grab this drink then "... Honestly dunno if exactly next week, or whatever, but if she gives you some opening, you have to show you're making it happen, she might say next week she can't, but then if she wanna go out, she feels more obligated to suggest a better time herself.
About the "How did you manage that one?" text, I don't even know if you need to answer that one, maybe say "crazy story, I'll tell you all about it in person", though maybe that's a bit weak lol, but the important part is focusing on the meet, you just made your main move asking about the schedule and the date, so you gotta close. I know you were trying to be empatetic and cool, but the texts you sent, specially in that order, don't achieve much, you're mostly trying to create more rapport when there's already enough, and it takes away the focus from the date, I think. But I'm no texting expert either, I've been learning a lot this past month.

 

[Beam]

That sound really cool, I think you could post a tutorial in the forums as a thread or something!

Cheers my man! I'll see what I can do

Hmm sometimes you just gotta pull the trigger, you know, like trying to be too suave might end up hurting you if her buying temperature is already there. In your place I would have written something like: "Nope, I'm free soon, we should meet next week to grab this drink then "... Honestly dunno if exactly next week, or whatever, but if she gives you some opening, you have to show you're making it happen, she might say next week she can't, but then if she wanna go out, she feels more obligated to suggest a better time herself.

I like this response. Good insight on introducing social pressure for her to suggest a better time.

About the "How did you manage that one?" text, I don't even know if you need to answer that one, maybe say "crazy story, I'll tell you all about it in person", though maybe that's a bit weak lol, but the important part is focusing on the meet, you just made your main move asking about the schedule and the date, so you gotta close.

Flux had a similar suggestion about not answering her question.

 

[Beam]

Gotta say I appreciate the breadth and depth of responses here. I came in thinking I had lost her at one point due to a single mistake, but really after everyones responses it's apparent I was oversimplying this, and that I systematically lost her throughout the interaction at various points for a number of different reasons. Which has given me many more points to improve on for next time.