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Space Monkey
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Tried hitting on a girl who was in her 30’s and was well ahead of most people and me in life (own house, very far in her career, travelled 20+ countries).

Now I am in my 20’s and don’t have my own house, have barely travelled outside the country and am just starting put in my career.

When topics are brought up in conversations it will easily come across as she is more wordly than me.

Example :- when she talked about travelling, I barely knew anything about those places and could pnly ask questions on how it was? Coudn’t relate with much of the places she visited.

even her having her own house is new to me. She seemed quite rich compared to me too.

What would the best way to game women like this?(Apart from the gain experience travelling and make more money to match her)
 

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Talk about all the things you have/have done that are exceptional, and if you haven't got any, get some. Life is about experiences, not the number of countries you've been to or digits in your bank account. Even a broke bum can live an extraordinary life, but if he doesn't believe in the value of his own experiences then what does that say about his ability to discern his own ambitions and act upon them?
 

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Talk about all the things you have/have done that are exceptional, and if you haven't got any, get some. Life is about experiences, not the number of countries you've been to or digits in your bank account. Even a broke bum can live an extraordinary life, but if he doesn't believe in the value of his own experiences then what does that say about his ability to discern his own ambitions and act upon them?
Unless one has done some “saving people from the fire” level of thing, How are you supposed to look exceptional to an older and experienced girl?

can you give me examples of what you would say?
 

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It's not about events that happen to you but the way you live life.

I sail a lot, back when I was broke I had a little yacht I had got for 5k and sailed it everywhere around the coast and invited girls over when I was in port.

I talk to girls about writing, meditation etc as if it's a whole new world they've yet to experience. The way I talk about the things I do shows my intent to live life on my terms and immerse myself in things that satisfy me.

The truth is that all the people who are 'experienced' in life are only that way on paper, buying tickets to this and that but none of them actually immersed themselves in anything except their 9-5. They cannot relate anything meaningful about their life or show any deep enjoyment of it. If you can capture the imagination of someone with the things you've done and experienced, they will listen and follow you.
 

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A pretty standard piece of advice I've heard (including on this forum) is to be vibrant and energetic and less boring than most guys her own age.
Unless one has done some “saving people from the fire” level of thing, How are you supposed to look exceptional to an older and experienced girl?
For who you are, not what you've done.
If you can't be "more worldly" than her, don't try.

I'm currently reading Zan Perrion's The Alabaster Girl (an absolutely phenomenal tour de force so far) and one of the bits that really resonated with me was this one:
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Leadership and vulnerability, a lightning combination that is utterly impossible for women to resist. It is the greatest strength of these men...
Because they are simultaneously father figures and little boys, these men are the only ones that can reconcile the seemingly irreconcilable duality of the nature of women: the madonna and the whore. They appeal to both sides of the feminine mystique. A woman wants to be put in her place by a leader and, at the same time, she wants to take care of him immensely. She wants him to stand guard ... majestic and defiant against the elements in one moment, then crawl into her lap like a kitten the next...
Obviously how you present yourself depends on her age. But if she's older and interested in you, it means she doesn't care. And just because she's older and more worldly doesn't mean she doesn't want you to boink her hard in bed.
 

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own house, very far in her career, travelled 20+ countries
This gives you soooo much to deep dive on and ask in depth questions, ask her questions based on her last answer to get deep insight into what she is talking about. Don't just think of a list of pre-prepared questions as this is like being interviewed.

Women like a man to have a bit of mystery so you don't need to have "lots" of achievements, we all have some in something even if it's just understanding what you like and enjoying those things to the max. What will interest her is when you talk about something with passion and enthusiasm. Unless your only passion is chasing and seducing women, which might well interest her but won't set you a good frame, then use what you love to do. If you like going out walking then describe where you go, why you like to go there, how it feels, etc. and make your descriptions take her on that journey with you so that it arouses her emotions.

Just because she appears to have lots of adventures I bet a lot of the time it was quite boring, so you need to be her interest here and now. Similarly, just because she has her own home and a car that doesn't mean she feels satisfied emotionally and certainly it has no relation to how sexually satisfied she is. Usually people that have ticked lots of "life goals" boxes have missed out on other "life expereinces" so entice her into your world by sharing yours with her.

Try changing your perspective - stop looking up at her sat on her pedestal and look at her as just a girl that wants to be loved and you're the man to do it as she's missed out on a lot of that kind of thing because she's been so busy.
 

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You can talk about what she WANTS to do in the future. What she may have missed in visiting 20 countries.

Focus on Stories that emphasize YOUR freedom. Not your accomplishments. Show you are free by being less available, and doing things.
 

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You're one down in this game because you're fascinated by her and she must have sensed it by now. Chances of you pedestalizing her are high therefore I'd suggest to leverage this as a landing opportunity for laying such girls in future. She must be fascinated and chase you.

Keep improving your fundamentals and game
Belive and value yourself. You've things to offer
Start doing things you like and build experiences
Listen, learn and talk less about yourself
 

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Tried hitting on a girl who was in her 30’s and was well ahead of most people and me in life (own house, very far in her career, travelled 20+ countries).

Now I am in my 20’s and don’t have my own house, have barely travelled outside the country and am just starting put in my career.

When topics are brought up in conversations it will easily come across as she is more wordly than me.

Example :- when she talked about travelling, I barely knew anything about those places and could pnly ask questions on how it was? Coudn’t relate with much of the places she visited.

even her having her own house is new to me. She seemed quite rich compared to me too.

What would the best way to game women like this?(Apart from the gain experience travelling and make more money to match her)
Dude nothing changes women are women, she talks about italy. Ask question about italy, how was the food, how was the people...say words like nice, sweet, cool to whatever she says then bring it or mix it with seductive topics or flirting... 0 diference follow the srduction process open-hook-make her invest- gaing complience-micro escalate-escalate-put dick in pussy... nothing changes...
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers
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