On attention-whore

[RedNeck]

I spent a fair amount on manosphere-especially Roosh V- and it sucks. I hated it. At Manosphere blogs, I see a lot of attention-whoring labeling. I feel it is more like a coping mechanism to justify bad games. I usually observe these two scenarios:

1- Like the guy is bad at reading signals, he thinks she IOI’s him, he approaches, he gets blown, then he labels her as an attention whore.

2- She is interested, the guy goes and approaches, he runs a terrible game, he gets rejected, and now he labels her as an attention whore.

I know attention whore exists, but I do not think they are as many as they sound in Reddit and Manosphere blogs. I am talking mainly about women you meet daily, but clubs might be different.

Even myself, when I look back at girls whom I labeled attention whores, it was my bad game or auto-rejection that got me rejected, not their lack of interest, but because I did not know any better I labeled them as attention whore.


I want to know the opinion of more experienced guys. Are there a lot of attention whores really or not that much?

 

[DarkKnight]

Are there a lot of attention whores really or not that much?

Yeah there are. Usually when they are "shiny". These girls specialize in drawing in attention

Read "the shiniest object, the hottest girl" by Chase and then you will have a bit more understanding. Attention seekers also give themselves away by being ultra persistent, those are the worst kinds. Girls who like you go into autorejection quite fast after they have believed being overt enough/

 

[RedNeck]

@DarkKnight , I agree with the shiniest and drawing in attention, but I disagree with persistence . I had two girls who were persistent because they really liked me and I was the best they would ever get .

 

[DarkKnight]

Girls who are emotional about you get hurt or burn out after some time, girls who care about attention (and thus not you) are pretty much like automatons. Girls have tried their shot with me for years as well, still the energy is different.

But what is your position on this then? That Attention seekers are few? Most guys have difficulty with talking to most girls so they go to venues or places where there are a lot of attention seekers because the attention seekers make it easy for them, after all they want the attention.

She is interested, the guy goes and approaches, he runs a terrible game, he gets rejected, and now he labels her as an attention whore.

Or guy finally goes for the kill, but girl rejects because she did not want progression just flirtation hence why we test them for compliance.

There is a lot of nuance in this so no use in describing things in extremes as I am right now but yes, attention seekers are many.

 

[RedNeck]

Actually my position is that attention seekers are not as many as it might sound and some of them get labelled like that because of bad judgment on the guys part .

I am not saying they do not exist . They do .

As for auto- rejection, I had hard core attention seeker go also into auto rejection because I didn’t reciprocate at all. She wanted to save a face .

Also , I had to go back and strike conversation with some girls after years and they were not in auto rejection . Some even said they were wondering when I would do it .

Another example, I had two girls blatantly staring at me . You would think they were a pro attention seeking , then i discovered they were so inexperienced , even Chase has an article about how inexperienced girls blatantly IOI.

Had I fucked it up with the two girls , it would have been easy to label them as attention- seeking . I would have gone something like this they were staring too much and then they rejected what an attention whore .

For sure, auto-rejection exists .I have experienced it first hand too. But I don’t think it is a reliable indicator of attention seeking .

Quite honestly, I only met two girls who I can legitimately label them as attention-seekers.

 

[DarkKnight]

As for auto- rejection, I had hard core attention seeker go also into auto rejection because I didn’t reciprocate at all. She wanted to save a face .

haha yeah they do this but STILL when the opportunity presents itself they will try to bait you. I had hardcore attention seekers who I have ignored for years and they went into autorejection got broken, but when they saw the opportunity still tried to bait me. They care less about you so they can persist more. Until they eventually break ofc.

Another example, I had two girls blatantly staring at me . You would think they were a pro attention seeking , then i discovered they were so inexperienced , even Chase has an article about how inexperienced girls blatantly IOI.

yeah, they can be very forward. "it can't be this easy can it?" .. well it can. Why would you think they are attention seeking though? We know that girls are attention seeking not because they send out IOIs but because they are evading attempts to escalate only to return to get more validation

But I don’t think it is a reliable indicator of attention seeking .

It is though. Attention seekers don't go into autorejection that fast. They have much more stamina with baiting you. We are more careful when there are real emotions involved.

Quite honestly, I only met two girls who I can legitimately label them as attention-seekers.

You should go out to more different venues, unfortunatelly there is a scourge of them and they tend to dwell among the same kind of places. If you only met two real attention seekers you are either incredible with converting girls or you do not meet that much new girls. One of both.

But I think I understand what you mean that women can get labeled as attention seekers far too fast by unexperienced guys. Ofcourse this happens, guys startle women with clumsy escalation or immediate hard closes, but women in general want attention first and foremost. That is how they get their validation and they do not need to put out to get that validation so they can bait inexperienced guys.

From time to time I see this kind of post "It is the guys fault hur hur because they have zero game", yes in some cases it is but that does not mean that the original problem does not exist or is as you are describing rare.

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

Everyone likes attention!

Have you seen those ig models, they literally live for attention (or live off of it depending on how you think about it, I mean those only fans views make bank)

I think everyone seeks attention to varying degrees. The extremes being social recluses and Actors who always have to be the center of attention at the party (I got a friend like that ugh)

So women are just expressing this natural desire.

I mean think about it like biology;

The flower is like the plant version of a pussy. And it needs to be attractive if any bee (BBC dick) is going to go inside of it and pollinate it. The same with women. They play the passive game in seduction, they ATTRACT that BEE DICK. How do you attract? You need to draw attention.

Men are the opposite we are active in our dating lives (better deal if you ask me, we have more control over our sex lives if want to do something about it)

But I have to say social media has amplified this need to attract and subtlety draw attention. It disgusts me a little to see these beautiful women be so vain (Like who cares if you got cellulite I'm still gonna fuck you

So long story short, there's always that one girl in the social circle that's melodramatic, bitchy and a complete flirt (like always on her period ahahaha)

But in my opinion it's like one in twenty.

Most women may flex for the gram, but they're pretty normal in real life

I think the bigger issue is the female resentment that one can get if they get rejected a lot. For me, hope and faith that it's gonna work out (and hey I got my first cold approach lay yesterday, so hope works!) prevents me from becoming completely bitter and nihilistic towards woman.

ironically we're so selfish that we don't think about the woman's perspective and that's why we call them attention whores and think THEY'RE selfish

Just a lot to think abt

Yours truly,