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Outside of Dan Bilzerian, what other older men are breaking the mold?

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I know Dan Bilzerian gets hyped up for being the guy with a lot of hot girls, don't really care if he pays em or if money is involved since status is huge in getting a lot of hot girls anyways, but what has interested me about his life is that this guy is:
  • Older
  • Has different hot girls in his life
  • Goes to cool parties
  • Has cool friends
I know people will whine about social media and how fake it is but I have realized that the game itself is actually pretty fake if you want lots of sexy girls and the party life. Dan Bilzerian seems to be that guy who has avoided the marriage trap/LTR trap and is living a life that makes even the most privileged fraternity guys jealous.

What other older guys living this sort of life are not getting their fame for it?

I kind of want a list going of such men that give younger guys hope for life after 30!
 

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"Life sucks after 30" is one of the recurring questions on these Boards, and one of your old personal favorites.

It doesn't matter that many of the senior members of these Boards are well over 30, and are a living proof of the opposite. Including Chase himself, by the way.

The bottom line is, life after 30 will only suck if you allow it to go that way. People are in charge of their lives and ultimately responsible for what happens to them. If their life sucks, it's because they let it go that way without reacting. It's because they chose to be victims.

Being a victim and letting your life go the wrong way without reacting goes against the very spirit of Girls Chase.

The sort of forever partying lifestyle that you praise all over the place will grow old, ultimately - because it is sterile. When that happens, you may well end up in a "marriage / LTR trap" yourself. You'd better prepare yourself for this eventuality, so that you can handle it well when you get there.

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I know Dan Bilzerian gets hyped up for being the guy with a lot of hot girls, don't really care if he pays em or if money is involved since status is huge in getting a lot of hot girls anyways, but what has interested me about his life is that this guy is:
  • Older
  • Has different hot girls in his life
  • Goes to cool parties
  • Has cool friends
I know people will whine about social media and how fake it is but I have realized that the game itself is actually pretty fake if you want lots of sexy girls and the party life. Dan Bilzerian seems to be that guy who has avoided the marriage trap/LTR trap and is living a life that makes even the most privileged fraternity guys jealous.

What other older guys living this sort of life are not getting their fame for it?

I kind of want a list going of such men that give younger guys hope for life after 30!

What sort of nonsense is this? Lots of Tribal Elders here are 30+. I am 37. Pablo Garcia is mid-30s. Gunwitch is over 40. COCPORN is mid-40s. Krauser quit in his early 40s

Who, exactly, says you need to marry or even have LTR in your 30s?
 
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You are also conflating two different issues here:

1) Being a rich pimp posing on social media (and having had 3 heart attacks at age 32 from your lifestyle).

2) Being single, laying hot girls and having cool friends and a rewarding social life in your 30s or even 40s.

I can't tell you how to do the first nor do I want such a life, but the second is very doable and there is tons of proof.

Nor do I know about a single Elder or seduction guru who is living like Bilzerian. The primary factor for such a life is money. And the PUA community is mostly about getting laid without spending money, or flashing prostitutes on social media. Therefore, you are in the wrong place if you ask for advice for becoming Bilzerian here. We can teach you how to do point 2).

 
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i’ll be 38 this month and do better than my friends who are in their 20s. i have another friend who does really well, a 31 year old black guy. hopefully you keep your hair. that’s what really ages you.

just look at brad pitt. between 35-40 he was widely considered the most attractive man alive. chicks like hot dads. not that you have to have children. but that’s a type A LOT of young girls like.

you’re dating life will not go to shit after thirty. it will likely improve hopefully you either keep your hair or are one of the rare men who looks good bald. my dating life seems to improve every year. i don’t really understand it and i’m sure it’s certain to slow down soon.

also, you can just go to your doctor now and get testosterone and hgh. the fountain of youth is available if you’re willing to pay the price, which is rather reasonable. on trt you should be able to look good into your late forties. just avoid using dht derivatives with trt as they cause hair loss. and of course this should be done through a doctor. i’m not a doctor, these are just a civilians opinions.
 

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All decent responses but to each his own right? I always seem to think that even high value men or cool guys in their 30s are all LTR-minded, the reasons for that are for another post. Now as for why I love Dan Bilzerian and want his kind of life, some of us never got the party demon out of our system an we want to spend a good bit of our life doing that. I would love to live more like Dan than just some unassuming dude. I respect guys like Dan for showing what is possible.
 

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leo is unique case. he constantly has short term relationships with some of the most beautiful women in the world. i'd personally prefer that to DB's lifestyle. but to each his own. i'd still kinda put him in that same category. his current gf camila morrone is so fucking hot.
 

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I always seem to think that even high value men or cool guys in their 30s are all LTR-minded, the reasons for that are for another post.

That is factually incorrect and it was pointed out to you above by me and Seppuku. I am sure more Elders can chime in.

Why do you continue to claim this?
 

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Honestly, I would find Dan Bilzerians lifestyle shit to have. I don't know the fellow that well, but it seems like he is continually in the spotlight, which puts pressure to live up to some kind of image. I am sure there are plenty of puppet master kinds of guys who are less public, but nonetheless very good provided for in terms of women.
 

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That is factually incorrect and it was pointed out to you above by me and Seppuku. I am sure more Elders can chime in.

Why do you continue to claim this?
This is the biggest irony behind OP's posts - everyone chimes in and says "there are cool 30+ year old men whom are not LTR and marriage minded," and yet OP claims that's the only kind of guy that exists who is above 30+. Doesn't make sense.

I think part of the problem is that some people in their 20's are in utter disbelief about what life is like past 30, it just doesn't compute - especially that life for many men is BETTER in their 30s than their 20s.

I can attest that as a guy in my young 30s, the 30s are so far better than my 20s.
 

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Yeah but define "cool" 30+ year old men? I do not really want to be anything like the men applauded in the seduction community because I don't really see much proof of them getting girls or getting the social experiences that I value. It seems like we have to be more realistic and set a standard on this. I also asked more about men living like Dan Bilzerian than just any old seducer and quite frankly, I'd be Dan any day, the women are way sexier and life stories better.
 

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Yeah but define "cool" 30+ year old men?

I suggest YOU define it. You are the one asking for advice.

I do not really want to be anything like the men applauded in the seduction community because I don't really see much proof of them getting girls or getting the social experiences that I value. It seems like we have to be more realistic and set a standard on this. I also asked more about men living like Dan Bilzerian than just any old seducer and quite frankly, I'd be Dan any day, the women are way sexier and life stories better.

That is fine, but why do you then post your question on a seduction forum where you get replies from members of the seduction community?

As I wrote above, likely nobody here can teach you to become Bilzerian.
 

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I suggest YOU define it. You are the one asking for advice.



That is fine, but why do you then post your question on a seduction forum where you get replies from members of the seduction community?

As I wrote above, likely nobody here can teach you to become Bilzerian.

Fine

1. Gets laid

2. Has a lot of cool friends

3. Has a lot of hot girls in his life

4. Parties and gets invited to quality parties
 

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Fine

1. Gets laid

2. Has a lot of cool friends

3. Has a lot of hot girls in his life

4. Parties and gets invited to quality parties

Be more specific. These are all rather vague statements.
 

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Be more specific. These are all rather vague statements.

Let's start with vague first before we get specific but okay.

1. Gets laid as in has sex with hot girls.

2. Cool friends as in other men and women who are not married with kids and love partying and going out.

3. Has a lot of hot girls in his life as in women want to be around him and hang out with him.

4. Parties and gets invited to quality parties as in he gets invited to parties with hot girls in them and parties most men will kill to be in.

In other words, Dan Bilzerian to some level.
 
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Let's start with vague first before we get specific but okay.

1. Gets laid as in has sex with hot girls.

2. Cool friends as in other men and women who are not married with kids and love partying and going out.

3. Has a lot of hot girls in his life as in women want to be around him and hang out with him.

4. Parties and gets invited to quality parties as in he gets invited to parties with hot girls in them and parties most men will kill to be in.

In other words, Dan Bilzerian to some level.

It is vague because you have no numbers.

What I can say is that most of the senior guys here are in the triple digits of lays with a fair share of hot girls, are single in their 30s or even 40s and have at least some cool friends and FBs. They have nightlife connections and may go to parties if they prefer.
 

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It is vague because you have no numbers.

What I can say is that most of the senior guys here are in the triple digits of lays with a fair share of hot girls, are single in their 30s or even 40s and have at least some cool friends and FBs. They have nightlife connections and may go to parties if they prefer.

Okay so pussy is not an issue, fine. I am more concerned with also the party life. One of the reasons I love Dan Bilzerian so much is because of the party life he has.
 

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Okay so pussy is not an issue, fine. I am more concerned with also the party life. One of the reasons I love Dan Bilzerian so much is because of the party life he has.

Yes and that is a bit harder to answer because a lot of the senior guys aren't hyper social or particularly rich. Many of them just do day game or go out in the weekends. There are gurus who did more of a party life style game like AFC Adam and Brent Smith. You might want to check out their stuff.
 

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Yes and that is a bit harder to answer because a lot of the senior guys aren't hyper social or particularly rich. Many of them just do day game or go out in the weekends. There are gurus who did more of a party life style game like AFC Adam and Brent Smith. You might want to check out their stuff.

I definitely will, one other guy who I think is good is RSD's Luke, he had some solid pointers on social circle building but it is easier said than done there. RSD seems to be all in on the social circle life latetly.
 

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I definitely will, one other guy who I think is good is RSD's Luke, he had some solid pointers on social circle building but it is easier said than done there. RSD seems to be all in on the social circle life latetly.


It seems a lot of posters have a fantasy/distorted view of what is to be older (post 40).... is like you guys have a paranoia view of the future... This is my advise, just keep getting good at whatever you are doing as in progressing.... All those things you are asking will happen, keep in mind Dam balzirian was a hard cored cold approacher(he would go up to any attractive girl and talk to her via cold approach), he has a lot of money, he is in really good shape, his face is not even that attractive, he has good game, tons of status (women got rich only by dating him so other women know this want a piece of the instagram pie)... I will argue you can achieve all of this even with no money... Remember also as you get older you will lose some of your friends (they will get eventually get married or settle down), but you can get some other friends... This older apocalypse will only happen if you settle down (which it seems you are not planning to).
 
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