Outside of Dan Bilzerian, what other older men are breaking the mold?

[naturalmikey]

I definitely will, one other guy who I think is good is RSD's Luke, he had some solid pointers on social circle building but it is easier said than done there. RSD seems to be all in on the social circle life latetly.

rsd luke is smoke and mirrors. the biggest fraud in the pickup industry which says a lot. i’ve heard this from so many people it’s hard not to believe it. plus have you seen him?

the reason most men party all the time is to get laid. if you can just get laid without the serious depression that comes with substance abuse, why wouldn’t you want that. i would say brad pitt is a good example. also russel brand. think of how many male celebrities get sober. you think they got sober because they were drinking alone? no. they were doing coke and fucking. go for it man. if you wanna spend the rest of your life depressed or in aa.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

It seems a lot of posters have a fantasy/distorted view of what is to be older (post 40).... is like you guys have a paranoia view of the future... This is my advise, just keep getting good at whatever you are doing as in progressing.... All those things you are asking will happen, keep in mind Dam balzirian was a hard cored cold approacher(he would go up to any attractive girl and talk to her via cold approach), he has a lot of money, he is in really good shape, his face is not even that attractive, he has good game, tons of status (women got rich only by dating him so other women know this want a piece of the instagram pie)... I will argue you can achieve all of this even with no money... Remember also as you get older you will lose some of your friends (they will get eventually get married or settle down), but you can get some other friends... This older apocalypse will only happen if you settle down (which it seems you are not planning to).

My main man Skills!!!

Yeah on a deeper level, I am trying to get to that status game aspect where I meet hot girls as a result of my lifestyle. We talk about it in college with frats and high school with sports but I really want to achieve this in adulthood, trying to see how it can be done. Some avenues are obviously nightlife.

As with the post though, I do feel discouraged because very few cool older guys even exist and even the ones I looked up to are married with kids. I want to hear of and learn more from the Dan Bilzerian types.

I'd argue Dan does have a handsome and chiseled face (no homo).

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

rsd luke is smoke and mirrors. the biggest fraud in the pickup industry which says a lot. i’ve heard this from so many people it’s hard not to believe it. plus have you seen him?

the reason most men party all the time is to get laid. if you can just get laid without the serious depression that comes with substance abuse, why wouldn’t you want that. i would say brad pitt is a good example. also russel brand. think of how many male celebrities get sober. you think they got sober because they were drinking alone? no. they were doing coke and fucking. go for it man. if you wanna spend the rest of your life depressed or in aa.

I do get laid but I enjoy the validation and feelings of party life. For me, sex just is not enough, I want the party experience and social experience. Being seen out with lots of hot girls and having that exclusivity feeling in nightlife. Even if I get laid, I want that as an addition to getting laid and really speak for my image.

 

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My main man Skills!!!

Yeah on a deeper level, I am trying to get to that status game aspect where I meet hot girls as a result of my lifestyle. We talk about it in college with frats and high school with sports but I really want to achieve this in adulthood, trying to see how it can be done. Some avenues are obviously nightlife.

As with the post though, I do feel discouraged because very few cool older guys even exist and even the ones I looked up to are married with kids. I want to hear of and learn more from the Dan Bilzerian types.

I'd argue Dan does have a handsome and chiseled face (no homo).

I have a wing (primo) who is short, bold, and older, he does "dan bilzirian style" he has a nice big mansion, invite the girls he meets at the club to the after party, keep their numbers and social media, invite them back, and get bottle service at clubs (from there he invites them back)... Is very easy, you need $$$ i personally find this style "boring" i favor more the cold approaching style, for me is more entertaining and fun.....

 

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I know multiple people who have done this kind of game, albeit a low-cost version of it.

It usually involves a lot of spam approaching and taking numbers/adding people on Facebook and then having a Project Mansion of some sort for parties. And usually a favorite venue to gather all the people on.

I have been involved in 3-4 such social circles. It is not very hard to do, although I was more the Sigma guy than the organizer.

You have to be above average cool or have some asset, like a cool flat or money, to pull this off.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

How much money are we talking?

Millions at least?

 

[Seppuku]

Oh Pry,

Dan Bilzerian is marketing, before all. He flashes high status on his IG. There isn't a girl on IG who is not secretly hoping to be invited to his parties, and receive the sperm of a high status man. All he has to do is send a bunch of DM to girls he likes (then probably pay the girl's travel expenses), and he gets new pussy to his private parties.

Here is something I have done many times which comes closest to what you describe. You can view it as a "high status conspicuous consumption". I travel a lot, and have lots of pictures of me flying business class or in five stars hotels. I have advertised it widely on my Instagram (on purpose). Then when I travel to a location, I invite girls to visit me at my hotel "for a drink at the pool bar". I make sure that this girl has access to my Insta. She comes for a drink, and two hours later we migrate to my bedroom.

This somehow emulates a downscale Bilzerian lifestyle, in a way that fits my own style better. It's flashing a certain high status lifestyle on social media (which girls are attracted to) then capitalizing on it. Instead of Dan's private jet, it's pictures on business class. Instead of Dan's luxurious properties, it's five stars hotels. It just works.

What I don't do, though, is pictures of parties because I have no interest in parties myself. But it could easily be added to the mix. The way I would proceed is initially to organize the parties myself. Make a deal with a local lounge bar I like, then organize an event and promote it. Then make sure I have plenty of quality pictures, then advertise these pictures. Then create a dynamic where more and more people are sucked in. I would say, being the organizer puts you on the top of the social pyramid and will get you laid consistently.

A downsized version of Dan Bilzerian such as this does not require millions of dollars, although you would have to pay some extra for the premium lifestyle, one way or another. I'd guess you need to spend an extra 1 or 2k (USD) each month into upping your lifestyle. If you are a single man with a 6 digit salary (which I think is your case) you could probably pull off something similar just right now.

If you have the "party daemon" that you need to take out, then take it out now. It will become harder later on. I'm telling you that it grows old. That's also why you don't have so many older people into this lifestyle: they just lost interest in it.

Seppuku
PS. A disclaimer for new readers: the whole point of Girls Chase is that things like the above are NOT necessary to get laid consistently.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

@Seppuku

It's always marketing, you're always marketing and selling yourself as a person no matter if you like it or not. Someone is buying and someone is selling, the women are buying and the men are selling in this case.

Yeah one of my fears of getting older is being unable to pursue the party demon. I very recently (November) turned 26 and it has been a trip no doubt. I fear getting older and entering my 30s not because I'll get laid any less per se or anything, my fear is not being able to explore the youthful fun of partying, working in nightlife, and being that guy who has pull or a role in that party/nightlife/hedonism atmosphere. I do ultimately want to be involved with party girls, models, large social circles in that scene, and being in that arena.

My goal is ultimately to get to that point in my 30s where I am either photographing models for fun, partying with hot girls, showing up to the most fun clubs with a crew, and at some point even working in nightlife to get that full experience. The problem is right now I work a very rewarding and high paying career that has good exit opportunities and I cannot yet quit.

 

[Seppuku]

The problem is right now I work a very rewarding and high paying career that has good exit opportunities and I cannot yet quit.

This is not a problem, but an opportunity, and it would be a pure waste to throw it in exchange of hedonist pursuits. It would be a decision you would regret later in life.

What you need to do is to make all your objectives work together. Photographing models is a nice hobby that you can easily do on the side of your career.

my fear is not being able to explore the youthful fun of partying, working in nightlife, and being that guy who has pull or a role in that party/nightlife/hedonism atmosphere

Alright, then do it now, but without doing something stupid like throwing a nice career opportunity. Somehow make the two work together. You have weekends for that purpose.

If you can manage to be invited into the sort of parties that you fancy, then go for it. I have no idea how to achieve that (i.e. get invited) however.

But otherwise, just be the organizer. It shows leadership and initiative. It puts you in position of control. It puts you at the top of the social pyramid involved (i.e. attendees of your parties). You can fine tune your parties by injecting some high status stuff. Always make sure that you are seen with super sexy girls. Always be dressed high status. Then make sure you events are covered by photographs and well advertised on social medias. Be prepared to pay the premium necessary at first. When you get some momentum going (people know about your parties), then you can probably charge a fee for attendance (and cover your expenses). It will also ensure that the crowd you attract are high status enough. Then on Insta DM some girls of your choice about free invites, asking them to join with female friends. There you have your Bilzerian kind of stuff.

To be fair, I have been myself toying with the idea of doing something similar, as a social experiment. I'm not into nightlife music-and-liquors parties myself, so it would be something like a pool party, or jazz-bar champagne event. I would make sure to be always accompanied with a well dressed, super sexy model (if possible a different one each time). Just see how it goes. I bet you that I would attract a ton of feminine interest

Anyway, best of luck, and avoid doing something you might regret later.
Seppuku

 

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[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

@Seppuku

See there you go, deep down inside we all want that validating feeling of bringing a hot girl out with us lol.

My situation is tricky and I have a tough time getting that large enough of a social circle together. Truthfully, I do not have nearly as many friends to really make that sort of thing happen.

 

[Seppuku]

I don't seek validation per se. I am actually wary about making other guys envious (because all you will get is resentment). Better than being seen with a hot girl, is to actually be inside a hot girl.

In my case, it's more like a social experiment I want to try out. If I set myself in position of leadership (such as organizing events), and showcase myself with a hot woman (i.e. pre-selection), we know in principle that it should work like a magnet to get more girls. But I haven't actually tried it, and I want to experiment with this. This could be a new avenue for me to get a stream of hot girls, with the goal of being inside them.

My situation is tricky and I have a tough time getting that large enough of a social circle together. Truthfully, I do not have nearly as many friends to really make that sort of thing happen.

It's a matter of the time you can free up towards this objective. My own experience has shown me that if I want to introduce a useful, deep change in my life (career, hobby, women, whatever...), I need to devote 15 to 20 hours a week working towards that change, for one to three years. That's the time it takes to make meaningful changes.

You need to spend your time according to your priorities.

 

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See there you go, deep down inside we all want that validating feeling of bringing a hot girl out with us lol.

This wish should diminish by time and lays. Like Seppuku, these days I wish as little as possible public exposure of my hookups.

 

[naturalmikey]

@Seppuku +1 on making other guys envious and resentful. i used to brag to my friends and show them pictures and shit of all the girls i was fucking. didn’t go over well. even other guys that are players get jealous which is odd. don’t know why i didn’t inherit the jealousy gene. it’s a fun competition to me. but whatever. i get it if you’re struggling with girls. but it’s far more productive to learn from a player than hate one. but that’s not how it works.

 

[Seppuku]

i used to brag to my friends and show them pictures and shit of all the girls i was fucking. didn’t go over well.

I had the same experience. I stopped that. It doesn't generate positive reactions. Much better to be discreet. Even your best friends will not understand.